Third down for Dobbs

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butchna said:
You're assuming he's driven by his wallet. He obviously loves football and if he's a viable prospect, I'd lean towards him exploring his options further. He can log a lot of time offseason towards his engineering aspirations. If he's Tyler Bray? Holding on every year while a team tries to draft someone better EVERY YEAR? He's better than that...and yes he is SMARTER...that's why he'd book.
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It's not about whether he's "driven by his wallet" or whether he has to fight and scratch to keep a roster spot every year. It's simple common sense. Being a backup QB in the NFL is easily one of the best jobs in the world. If you could quit your job and instead play football and make as much in a single year as you would have made in a decade at your other job, how could you not do that?
 
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smokey0625 said:
Dobbs threw for 60%. Let's not act like that is bad. Dobbs has a little accuracy issue but better wrs help. He looked good in ow game.
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I'm not trying to hate on Dobbs, but let's not act like he's throwing the ball 30+ yards down the field. I would hope he has at least a 60% completion rate when he's throwing screens and 10 yard pass routes
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
And folks want to blame the pass game struggles on the QB.

Our wide receivers were the problem.
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D4H, if you are placing blame, please dish it out properly.

QB accuracy

OL blocking

WR drops

QB/WR possibly reading the defense wrong(either ran the wrong route or threw to the wrong route)

OC being predictable

QB not changing the play when it's obvious that it looks like they know what we are about to do.

OC not allowing the QB to change the call when it looks like they know what we are about to do.

We have the talent to impose our will on the field, but we can not get predictable and we have got to execute at a level the allows success.

Jump higher Vols.
 
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drylo said:
It's not about whether he's "driven by his wallet" or whether he has to fight and scratch to keep a roster spot every year. It's simple common sense. Being a backup QB in the NFL is easily one of the best jobs in the world. If you could quit your job and instead play football and make as much in a single year as you would have made in a decade at your other job, how could you not do that?
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Not everyone is wired the way you apparently are. No idea what Dobbs wants to do, but a mega-successful career in aerospace engineering over the course of 40some years can be way more lucrative than 5-6 as a backup QB. And even if it is "just a typical career", a) he'll do fine financially and b) building things that fly into space is no less aspirational than playing in the NFL. Kind of a dipstick thing to do to question someone's intelligence for potentially seeing life different than you. Way more to life than football.
 
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drylo said:
It's not about whether he's "driven by his wallet" or whether he has to fight and scratch to keep a roster spot every year. It's simple common sense. Being a backup QB in the NFL is easily one of the best jobs in the world. If you could quit your job and instead play football and make as much in a single year as you would have made in a decade at your other job, how could you not do that?
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Dobbs, as we all know, is not your average student-athlete. He may want to explore doing something he loves more than football, which would be HIS OWN personal choice. It's not like being an aerospace engineer is some $15 an hour job. Making 100+k a year starting out sounds pretty good to me.

Aerospace Engineers
 
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Power T-Rev said:
I'm not trying to hate on Dobbs, but let's not act like he's throwing the ball 30+ yards down the field. I would hope he has at least a 60% completion rate when he's throwing screens and 10 yard pass routes
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Yeah well when your deep throws are to not the greatest group, you prolly tend to throw incomplete. Jake Locker never threw above 60. My point is im not sure it's all him.
 
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smokey0625 said:
Yeah well when your deep throws are to not the greatest group, you prolly tend to throw incomplete. Jake Locker never threw above 60. My point is im not sure it's all him.
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You're right. I think the deep pass just isn't a big part of Butch's offense. He seems to place more emphasis on making certain he gets completions to keep the up tempo offense going
 
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munsterlander said:
Not everyone is wired the way you apparently are. No idea what Dobbs wants to do, but a mega-successful career in aerospace engineering over the course of 40some years can be way more lucrative than 5-6 as a backup QB. And even if it is "just a typical career", a) he'll do fine financially and b) building things that fly into space is no less aspirational than playing in the NFL. Kind of a dipstick thing to do to question someone's intelligence for potentially seeing life different than you. Way more to life than football.
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I think the point is that Dobbs' engineering degree isn't going anywhere. He can try football for a while, then get into engineering for his career. If he started out in engineering, football wouldn't be waiting for him the same way.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
It's balanced. Dobbs has made bad throws and the receivers have dropped good passes. The problem with you is you act like Dobbs never does anything wrong. We all want Dobbs to succeed as much as we want you to stop posting
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Agree Berry, it's a combination of things....our talented WRs are poorly coached and our talented QB has accuracy issues. Throwing in other factors such as injuries and an offense that stresses the run and a horizontal, short passing game, and you get what we got last year and likely will have again this year. The good news is, with only minimal improvement on both sides of the ball and continued outstanding special teams play, we can win the SEC East.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
Josh Dobbs is the SEC's Best Quarterback on Third Down - Rocky Top Talk

"You would expect Dobbs' completion percentage to go down and his yards per attempt to go up on third-and-long, as they do. It's encouraging to see his completion percentage go up fairly significantly on third-and-medium. But his ability to just get the first down stands out the most:

18 first downs converted through the air on 3rd and 4-6 was 15th nationally and best among SEC quarterbacks; no one else had more than 13.
16 first downs converted through the air on 3rd and 7-9 was fifth best nationally, also best among SEC quarterbacks; no one else had more than 11."
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Our wrs werent good last year. Maybe they get better.
 
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smokey0625 said:
Let's face it, if we had an incredible throw game then we would have won it all last year. Our run game was top notch and all we need to improve is throwing it a little.
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The worst pass play we have in the quick throw to the sideline..Usually results in little to no gain..
 
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#121
Crossing routes to our receivers in space and and drag routes to our TE play to Dobb's strengths. Throwing in tight windows does not work well for him
 
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drylo said:
It's not about whether he's "driven by his wallet" or whether he has to fight and scratch to keep a roster spot every year. It's simple common sense. Being a backup QB in the NFL is easily one of the best jobs in the world. If you could quit your job and instead play football and make as much in a single year as you would have made in a decade at your other job, how could you not do that?
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He's not from an impoverished background. His PASSION (other than football of course) has been what he's studying for. It's not a typical JOB. As I stated, if he's slated for more than a practice squad clipboard holder, I could see him delaying his ascendant star course. If not, his compensation for doing what he loves is still more than your standard punch the clock JOB. :hi:
 
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Kristy* said:
I think the point is that Dobbs' engineering degree isn't going anywhere. He can try football for a while, then get into engineering for his career. If he started out in engineering, football wouldn't be waiting for him the same way.
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If that's what he wants to do, sure, no argument. And if that had been the point Dr. Ylo made, no problem. But it's not - he pretty much said Dobb's would be stupid not to go the NFL route. Dumb.
 
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Kristy* said:
I think the point is that Dobbs' engineering degree isn't going anywhere. He can try football for a while, then get into engineering for his career. If he started out in engineering, football wouldn't be waiting for him the same way.
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No one's advocating him not giving football a "chance". I just don't see it being the plum opportunity that most of us would envision if he's not on the path to PLAY. He gets into a Tyrod Taylor situation? Play it out. Chase Daniel? Aerospace firm...about that position?
 
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munsterlander said:
If that's what he wants to do, sure, no argument. And if that had been the point Dr. Ylo made, no problem. But it's not - he pretty much said Dobb's would be stupid not to go the NFL route. Dumb.
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And Dobbs is the furtherest example from stupid. Another QB just hanging around...Tyler Bray? That might be the one to cite. :thumbsup:
 
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