Things are going to change...

I find it hard to believe that a student athlete is taking advantage of when given free tuition loans, housing, money, and food. Plus the perks of being an athlete. And given that they get all that to play it sounds a lot like an employeer paying their employee to me
Plus the fact they don't have to pay the taxes on the "student loans" that are being "forgiven" based on scholarships.
 
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Enjoy watching intramural sports then.
Have you watched much intramural sports? I've watched some pretty exciting games with the players more passionate and engaged than the NBA and much better than most G-League.
But then again I've watched Grasshopper football games more exciting than NFL games
 
Force the NBA and NFL to start a minor league and require all college athletes to be strictly amateur in every sense of the word. Let the athletes and their families decide what route to chose either a Education or a potential pro sport career through the minors. Much like baseball and hockey today and tighten any rules violation to the point it is not worth it to a college to breaking them. Simple solution to a complex problem.
 
Force the NBA and NFL to start a minor league and require all college athletes to be strictly amateur in every sense of the word. Let the athletes and their families decide what route to chose either a Education or a potential pro sport career through the minors. Much like baseball and hockey today and tighten any rules violation to the point it is not worth it to a college to breaking them. Simple solution to a complex problem.
"Force the NBA and NFL" sounds very.....ugh.... socialist. One doesn't force businesses to create a branch of business simply because you dislike what's happening or about to happen with the NCAA getting hit with lawsuits. That's a long way from a good way to handle things.

If they choose to do it, that's fine, but "force the NBA and NFL to start a minor league" is wrong, very wrong, for America.
 
"Force the NBA and NFL" sounds very.....ugh.... socialist. One doesn't force businesses to create a branch of business simply because you dislike what's happening or about to happen with the NCAA getting hit with lawsuits. That's a long way from a good way to handle things.

If they choose to do it, that's fine, but "force the NBA and NFL to start a minor league" is wrong, very wrong, for America.

Force may have been a little strong wording but they are the reason along with pure greed by many others. I sure as sh*t ain't a ******* socialist. The problem I have with athletes getting paid in college is that they are getting a education that can benefit them for a lifetime and now that is not enough. The schools figured out they could make money off them to build facilities and lure those athletes to exploit and that is wrong even more so. Boosters decided they could pump money into the sports programs, pay disadvantaged kids (in many situations) under the table and live out some grandiose dream of being a part of a team in some way when they couldn't in many cases play and that is wrong. Coaches figured they could make obscene amounts of money from schools and then talk about there poor players and that's wrong. The Pro's know they can get a kid that goes go to college play 3 years in football 1 year in basketball get some size and experience lure them away when they think they can benefit from this kid financially and pay them some cash and if it works out great and if not cut them loose with nothing but a dwindling bank account no marketable skills and no education and that is wrong. There are many things wrong with the whole system and the fact is that college sports today as it has been for years is just getting worse and more corrupt by the minute.

With all that being said there are tons of kids that have played by the rules graduated and gone on to do great things and even play pro sports. So more good than bad does come out of a broken system and I would hope it continues but at some point there needs to be a line drawn. If kid wants to go to the pros and chase that dream power to them. If they want to get paid let the pros pitch in. If they want to get a education that should be a option as well.

From what little I know about a athlete being able to get some type of grant to help them with the day to day expenses I think it is there for them. I do know how much it cost to send a kid to school and I do know that many of these young athletes would never get the chance to go to school if not for sports and most of those kids not on a scholarship get grants, work jobs and go to school without the things "most" athletes have at their disposal and graduate.

What needs to be done is to cut through all the BS about paying all athletes through the NIL and just say what it is and that is to pay the stars that are marketable what they can get while they audition for a pro contract because to many that is the dream they have been peddle by these schools and coaches and the truth is that less than 2% will ever see that dream is the reality. I have yet to see on a job application a question asking how fast do you run the Forty or what is your Vertical Leap but all of them have a space for education so that alone is worth something I would think.
 
One other thing for anybody that likes to throw socialist labels around at every turn on this or any forum. I am not a political person and IMO this is not the place for politics but with that being said, Communism and Socialism alike are either voted in or allowed to happen and shots are usually fired to get out of them both. Serious stuff to be toyed with in this day and time. Just something in my opinion we ALL should think about.
 
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One other thing for anybody that likes to throw socialist labels around at every turn on this or any forum. I am not a political person and IMO this is not the place for politics but with that being said, Communism and Socialism alike are either voted in or allowed to happen and shots are usually fired to get out of them both. Serious stuff to be toyed with in this day and time. Just something in my opinion we ALL should think about.
I'm hardly the first person in this thread to bring up socialism. And honestly, I thought this thread was in the dang politics forum, not football.

It stands that you don't force businesses to create a market just because you don't like laws that are passed. That is not how America works.

I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt that I used the S word but I saw "force the NFL and NBA" and I'm supposed to "know" that's not what you meant? Please read this thread. The S word is everywhere.
 
I am well aware of how this country works I guess I'm just someone that thinks rules are made to be followed and not make new ones when following those rules becomes to hard for a few and lower the bar to make the few happy. My feelings aren't going to be hurt by anybody behind a keyboard I'm way beyond that childish BS. I just think if anyone is going to make assumptions on anybodies politics or religion it should be done in a different place.

I started this thread just to point out that the basic parts of amateur athletics are going down a road that nobody knows where it might lead. Some like the idea, some don't, everybody has an opinion right wrong or indifferent that's just how it is.
 
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Force the NBA and NFL to start a minor league and require all college athletes to be strictly amateur in every sense of the word. Let the athletes and their families decide what route to chose either a Education or a potential pro sport career through the minors. Much like baseball and hockey today and tighten any rules violation to the point it is not worth it to a college to breaking them. Simple solution to a complex problem.
The direction of baseball - eliminating minor league teams while drafting more collegaints higher - would indicate a hard road for this to go. Minor leagues are more about player development, the college game about winning and championships....
 
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Oh so college will basically become a semi pro league.
College athletics has always been a semi pro league. College Football is nothing but a revenue making business where if you don't get drafted at least you get the bonus of some degree. The bigger the stadium the more revenue. If your team sucks and you still pack the stadium , bonus University. If your team is consistently good then your doing a great job of developing players, or paying players. Is what it is, all good when your winning and sucks when your losing. Don't lose sleep over it, you'll take years off your life.
 
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