There was an exchange between Rob Lewis and Coach Pruitt after the Bama game that is interesting...

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Vol_from_86 said:
I think this sheds some light on why many Tennessee fans are frustrated with Pruitt. Many of us (including myself) want to see younger guys play more because we want to accelerate this rebuild. Rob has expressed on VQ's podcast that he thinks the younger guys should play more and asked Pruitt about it after the game. While I agree that they should be playing more, I thought Pruitt's answer made a lot of sense...

Rob: "Jeremy, as a coach is there ever a time where you may have a freshman or a sophomore who you know is more talented than the upperclassman who is playing, but he's not quite as ready, and you throw him out there to speed up his development, or is it all about the practice thing?"

Pruitt: "Well I don't believe in that. You have a purpose when you practice. I don't think that's the right way to build a program because the players know who's earned the right opportunity to play on Saturdays. They know that. There's no secrets in this game. They can see it. We watch film every day. They know who plays hard. They know who makes mistakes. And if you start (playing guys) just because he's bigger or stronger or faster or whatever and he's not done the right stuff through the week then I think you're sending the wrong message to the people within your program..."

The question was asked at around 14:27 if interested
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Not sure I understand the point here, he said that he plays those ready to play, what is wrong with that? If the other QBs are not demonstrating the full understanding of the Offense then they don't play. My issue is the preparation and game planning, it is boring and predictable.
 
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stumps said:
Pruitt's answer does not make a lot of sense. Pruitt's answer tells me that the way in which he frames his approach to coaching is built upon an outdated mindset where we value seniority over ability and talent. when you look at the programs that are winning consistently, they have accelerated or abandoned this old fashioned notion, which I would maintain relies upon the old rules that A - students commit to a school, cannot transfer, and persist to graduation, and B - transfer students is a rarity and not dignified. You have to earn your playing time.

This framework for understanding coaching in the SEC will result in Pruitt circling back to DC job in a few years.
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What he is talking about is exactly the way Saben does it. There's nothing wrong with earning your playing time. If
 
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butchna said:
I think the Dobbs practice thing is Vols fan fiction.
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The Sasquatch list grows ...

Remember Justin Hunter playing to not get hurt before NFL?

... Would love to make a big list of these. Once a falsehood goes viral, there are always a number of people who ever realize they are wrong and turn back.
 
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Practice habits are great, as long as they transition to the actual game. Georgia exposed JG and his inability to process or perform under pressure. Expect every team to use the same tactics to force him into bad decisions. The question for the last 5 games, if JG gets the majority of playing time is this, can the team overcome his quarterback play. If they can, we have a chance to win, if not, we can expect blowouts by our better opponents.
 
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I get the approach. He wants to instill discipline and a workman ethic for long term success. The only problem is if he can’t develop the younger more talented players to a point that they are overtaking they older guys then he may not make it long term.
 
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Vol_from_86 said:
I think this sheds some light on why many Tennessee fans are frustrated with Pruitt. Many of us (including myself) want to see younger guys play more because we want to accelerate this rebuild. Rob has expressed on VQ's podcast that he thinks the younger guys should play more and asked Pruitt about it after the game. While I agree that they should be playing more, I thought Pruitt's answer made a lot of sense...

Rob: "Jeremy, as a coach is there ever a time where you may have a freshman or a sophomore who you know is more talented than the upperclassman who is playing, but he's not quite as ready, and you throw him out there to speed up his development, or is it all about the practice thing?"

Pruitt: "Well I don't believe in that. You have a purpose when you practice. I don't think that's the right way to build a program because the players know who's earned the right opportunity to play on Saturdays. They know that. There's no secrets in this game. They can see it. We watch film every day. They know who plays hard. They know who makes mistakes. And if you start (playing guys) just because he's bigger or stronger or faster or whatever and he's not done the right stuff through the week then I think you're sending the wrong message to the people within your program..."

The question was asked at around 14:27 if interested
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Well by this brilliant calculus we should be starting Rudy...I heard he always made it to practice, smh.
 
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4chrissy said:
Did you even read the first part of the post, this thing with JG isn’t about COVID. I am so tired of everyone in America using COVID as an excuse to suck. Were out of groceries...it’s COVID, can’t buy a new appliance....it’s COVID, our QB stinks....it’s COVID.
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We’re all tired of it, but it’s clearly had an impact. We probably lost as much practice time as anybody. That’s not an excuse to suck, but missing practices and all the issues with the WRs and contact tracing has clearly made it harder to get young guys on the field early.
 
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stumps said:
Pruitt's answer does not make a lot of sense. Pruitt's answer tells me that the way in which he frames his approach to coaching is built upon an outdated mindset where we value seniority over ability and talent. when you look at the programs that are winning consistently, they have accelerated or abandoned this old fashioned notion, which I would maintain relies upon the old rules that A - students commit to a school, cannot transfer, and persist to graduation, and B - transfer students is a rarity and not dignified. You have to earn your playing time.

This framework for understanding coaching in the SEC will result in Pruitt circling back to DC job in a few years.
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That's quite the inference when his statement entirely omits anything related to seniority or class and exclusively emphasizes one's performance in practice...it seems CJP fully agrees with your call for a merits-based approach. The issue I see is that it seems our coaching staff is a bit slow to substitute when a given player is not performing well and has been given a reasonable opportunity to do so. This is especially true at QB where IMO they also make the mistake at limiting the play-calling to an almost absurd level.
 
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I always wonder how the practice quality is graded. It can't all be Pruitt. He can't be everywhere. And, there are times when a player has a nagging injury - is he still putting out 100%? if not, yet, he still plays? Color me not convinced this works. Maybe at Georgia or Alabama four deep. But, not here now.
 
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chattavol420 said:
So Pruett is basically say it would send the wrong message to the team to play Bailey at quarterback because JG has been here for five years working hard. That’s his perspective. Here’s the other thing that sends a terrible message to the team… Playing a very bad player at the most important position. The entire team suffers. Clemson’s players seem to get over it when Kelly Bryant was replace with Trevor Lawrence. Bama’s players seemed to get over it when they named Jalen hurts starter as a true freshman and again...those Bama players hung in there when hurts was replaced by Tua. Either Bama has the most emotionally resilient group of players ever or Pruett is wrong. One or the other. Lol
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Spot on.
In talking about the message it sends to the team and playing a freshman over 9thbur senior, what message does it send to the recruits??
Mistake in practice (where you learn to correct them btw) = no playing?
Endure getting curb stomped by good teams until you've "earned" a shot while watching people same age excel on these good teams?

Kinda seems like youre making harder on yourself by having this mindset
 
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VolArmy74 said:
FYP. I may not know how to do heart surgery, but if the doctor fails to close the chest cavity and the patient dies, it's pretty easy to know from the end result he didn't do a good job.
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Your fix of my post was spot on😂😂. Thanks for getting in on the spirit of post! 👍
 
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MiramarVol said:
He said it wasn't about who's bigger or stronger, its about who practices the best, understands the game plan and can execute the best. Regardless of class. Wants started as a true freshman last year. Was there no upperclassmen on the OL. It's not making sense for some because you don't like the fact that JG still starts. What part of he gives us the best chance to win don't you understand? We all want to win and be a successful tip tier program and I know JG isn't the best. It's hard to believe no one has stepped up in practice enough to unseat him. It speaks to preparation, covid, and the overall understanding of the offense and where to go with the ball. I know JG isn't a gamer, but it doesn't look like the others practice very well to take the spot.
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What it says to me is that the QB's on the bench should have never been recruited. If they are this unable to preform, then the staff that recruited them was grasping at straws or wouldn't know a good high school QB if he hit them in the face with a 50 yard pass.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
As a Pruitt supporter, this is the one thing that concerns me.

Dobbs was notoriously bad in practice, but when the lights came on he was the baller you wanted taking snaps. JG is obviously a beast in practice, but there’s a whole study on this I watched a few years back that takes a brain’s panic (fight or flight) sensors into play in high pressure situations. Pruitt is ignoring what goes on between the ears on game day and basing his lineup solely off efforts in practice.

For example: I am not a good golfer for the most part, it really depends on where I am mentally that day whether I have a good day on the course. But I can absolutely crush the ball on the range when it doesn’t matter. I can shape shots, hit high, hit low, etc. But put me on the course and I can make it look like I have no idea what I’m doing some days.

Pruitt is not accounting for this.
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Back when I played golf, we called what you suffer from "choking". Suffered with it myself. Jokes aside, this is the difference in us and constant winners. They don't choke!!!
As for JG.
As long as things are going good, he does fairly well. Let a little difficulty creep into the game and he chokes/goes to pieces.
 
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I’m good with this approach. And whether we like it or not, it absolutely is the way a PROGRAM is built. All things being equal, the guy who’s earned it deserves and needs to play. Injuries happen, and there are times where it has to be a new kid (Henry T for example), but I’d prefer having an assembly line full in each class (we’re finally getting there) and hierarchy of competence and earned merit (which is where competence comes from) where guys are plug and play. That’s a program. Schools that hope to be good every now and then and speculate about who should play right away because they are “super talented” etc. I hate them more than most things I hate, but I’ve never heard a Bama fan bitch about who plays and who doesn’t with the possible exception of Hurts/Tua but that is an extreme situation. They don’t bitch about it because the program works, and guys earn spots and they plug and play year after year. I understand the hand wringing over JG, but we don’t have a single additional win with any other QB on our roster. And if playing another (debatably) more talented kid that isn’t ready erodes the foundation of this approach, damn the torpedos. I want a program, not a 9/10 win season. We had that with Butch.
 
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I'm ok with Pruitt's approach from a starting the game standpoint, but if that very good practice player sucks it up during the game after practicing so good during the week, it makes no sense to me to not give someone else a shot. The mentality the previous few coaches have displayed causes us to have to live with a mediocre quarterback for 4 years before he graduates then repeat all over again. Can we finally stop regurgitating the same methods. Not working!
 
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Morale is a real component of the term team. Different standards for different team members is a recipe for poor performance. Whether called an exercise or practice, how you perform, when it counts, is what counts. The mission or game performance is the only reason practice or the exercise matters. The coach or leader is responsible for results of the game or mission, (the success of his team). No one player or team member should be allowed to compromise the success of the team or mission. CJP has a lot to learn in a short time.
 
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:rolleyes: We have so many with such amazing football knowledge around here, somebody needs to let Phil know. He can come to the message boards and hire a coach and salvage our football program and save the University millions!
 
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FlyFishnVol said:
Not sure I understand the point here, he said that he plays those ready to play, what is wrong with that? If the other QBs are not demonstrating the full understanding of the Offense then they don't play. My issue is the preparation and game planning, it is boring and predictable.
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I don't see how any college qb with 2 years into a system would not understand the the offensive scheme. Our offensive scheme looks pretty simple to me. jg may understand the scheme but he cannot do it on game day. In practice it is at the most 75% of game speed, jg probably excels in practice but at game speed he just cannot do it. And one last thing, with just a few weeks of practice a person with just average iq should know the playbook. So it is then up to their physical abilities to carry it out.
 
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Some of y'all would change players just to say you changed something. Doesn't mean its a good idea.

What everyone forgets about bigger, faster, stronger is that it doesn't mean better.
 
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