There is still support for jones

#27
#27
To be honest, I thought the play calling seemed sufficient. It was key penalties, terrible angles/tackling by defenders, turnovers, and an overall inability to execute from our WRs/QB that lost us that game IMO.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#28
#28
loservol said:
Time for you and the rest of the shills to face reality that it is over after losing to a terrible Arkansas team!
Click to expand...

Not really sure what a "shill" is, but what exactly is over? Our chance to win the East or the SEC or a NC? All of these things were pipedreams anyway. Again, I totally support blaming the coaches and media for overhyping the team in the offseason. And, we have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory twice (last night we just got beat).

I agree that some serious evaluation needs to go into Jones' performance as well as that of the entire staff. But this emotional reaction to fire everybody, money be damned, available coaches be damned, everything be damned, is what got us here in the first place.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#30
#30
vavolunteer said:
Not really sure what a "shill" is, but what exactly is over? Our chance to win the East or the SEC or a NC? All of these things were pipedreams anyway. Again, I totally support blaming the coaches and media for overhyping the team in the offseason. And, we have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory twice (last night we just got beat).

I agree that some serious evaluation needs to go into Jones' performance as well as that of the entire staff. But this emotional reaction to fire everybody, money be damned, available coaches be damned, everything be damned, is what got us here in the first place.
Click to expand...

What got the team here, is an incompetent (maybe even crooked) board of trustees and administrated staff who just can't seem to give enough of a damn to put in the effort and cash to bring winning back to TN.
 
#31
#31
rjmclaff said:
Do you think the coaches lost yesterday's game?
Click to expand...

Oklahoma, yes. Florida, yes.

Yesterday, no, at least not directly in regards to playcalling (maybe defensive playcalling). I don't think we are a well coached team, however.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#33
#33
etcolton said:
Believe it or not after reading volnation there is still support for butch jones. This comes to show that the players are bought in to the process and are still pushing through the season. Unfortunately vol fans think they play on the team, and think everything revolves are the fans and what the fans think. This football team is nothing but boys busting their azz all their life to play college football. Those of you talking about not coming to games is ridiculous. These players are the ones going through this time not you. You do not play for this team or are in any part of this football program In any shape or form. Not supporting this team is the dumbest thing I heard bc you don't like the coaches staff. I don't see how any player would want to come play for our idiotic redneck fans. I will be supporting the vols through thick and thin. Go vols
Click to expand...



A lot of us, myself included, have been giving our time, money and devotion to this program before a lot of these current players were even born and a damn lot longer time than before Butch Jones arrived. If it means I'm an "idiotic redneck" because I have doubt if Jones and co.can get the job done then so be it. The fact that you say it's the players and not us going through things is idiotic, we love this program as much as they do and we go through it with them. To say that we're not part of the program in any shape or form just shows how foolish you truly are. I support the players and believe they are giving it their all but they are not being put in the best possible spot to win games. Nobody with any common sense expected this team to go undefeated but to continuously lose game in the 4th quarter because of the play calling is inexcusable. Continue on with blind support if you like.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#34
#34
Godfatha said:
Oklahoma, yes. Florida, yes.

Yesterday, no, at least not directly in regards to playcalling (maybe defensive playcalling). I don't think we are a well coached team, however.
Click to expand...

I could not agree more. they are just a couple of catches away from sealing this game. I still think he coached a little scared but I really thought he improved.
 
Last edited:
#35
#35
chattavol420 said:
There was about this much support left for Dooley in his last year. It's over. And the players can sense it. That's why we saw the lack of effort last night
Click to expand...

Definate lack of effort on the players part and no one will supports quiters......just other quiters.....what a cluster ____
 
#36
#36
etcolton said:
Those of you talking about not coming to games is ridiculous. These players are the ones going through this time not you. You do not play for this team or are in any part of this football program In any shape or form.
Click to expand...
Lmaooo hahaha, dumbest post I've read all day which is saying a lot considering the VN meltdown. So fans in cfb don't matter is what you're saying? We may not play or coach in the games, but the fanbase is very much a part of any athletic program. The argument that since you're not a coach or a player, your opinions doesn't matter is so ridiculous and overplayed.

One more thing...is it true, Colton, that your dad is a big donor, and that bought you your playtime?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#38
#38
chattavol420 said:
There was about this much support left for Dooley in his last year. It's over. And the players can sense it. That's why we saw the lack of effort last night
Click to expand...

This is soooooo stupid!!!!! Our players have not quit on this coaching staff!! I guess we must have been watching 2 very different games if you think they have!! The problem is that slot of you so called fans (and i use that term loosely) are hoping and wanting tho to be true so you will have something else to ***** and moan about.
 
#39
#39
etcolton said:
Believe it or not after reading volnation there is still support for butch jones. This comes to show that the players are bought in to the process and are still pushing through the season. Unfortunately vol fans think they play on the team, and think everything revolves are the fans and what the fans think. This football team is nothing but boys busting their azz all their life to play college football. Those of you talking about not coming to games is ridiculous. These players are the ones going through this time not you. You do not play for this team or are in any part of this football program In any shape or form. Not supporting this team is the dumbest thing I heard bc you don't like the coaches staff. I don't see how any player would want to come play for our idiotic redneck fans. I will be supporting the vols through thick and thin. Go vols
Click to expand...

I know you are frustrated, I mean what VOL fan isn't? However, we are part of this program. I, along with many, many others, are part of the "process" because we are helping fund it through donations, etc. You can't start bashing the majority of our fanbase because they are calling for Butch's head right now. I drive 4 hrs just to go to each home game, add in the tickets and tailgate party materials, and the spent money chart starts to exponentially rise. I know people who travel 6-8 hrs to come see UT play every home game. Those types of people will eventually stop going and, in turn, will sale their tickets to the highest bidder. That's not a recipe for success financially for UT. UT fans are over the hype, and they are over games like OK where they pay $250 a ticket, rock Neyland to the point my ears rang for two days, only to watch this BS on the field. We are UT. We aren't ETSU. I don't think it's to much to ask to have a QB that can consistently throw 15 yards accurately, an OL coach who can properly develop talent, and a defensive coordinator who can learn to properly play the correct players in schemes that are successful game by game.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#42
#42
titansvolsfaninga said:
we were one or two plays from winning. The punt return, the missed field goal, the PW fumble. Given the lack of our OL, that's good. Should we play the freshmen on the OL now?
Click to expand...

Our mantra throughout Dooley's career was "next year is our year", and we carried that right over from day one of Butch Jones being hired.

Great coaches prepare their team, and don't let every single important game come down to one play or one coaching decision to decide the fate of the game.

Butch and Co. don't seem to be capable of using the effectively improving upon, or using the talent they have recruited.

Hiring people like Debord, and keeping Don Mahoney, Willie Martinez, and John Jancek on staff puts all of that responsibility on Jones.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#43
#43
etcolton said:
Believe it or not after reading volnation there is still support for butch jones. This comes to show that the players are bought in to the process and are still pushing through the season. Unfortunately vol fans think they play on the team, and think everything revolves are the fans and what the fans think. This football team is nothing but boys busting their azz all their life to play college football. Those of you talking about not coming to games is ridiculous. These players are the ones going through this time not you. You do not play for this team or are in any part of this football program In any shape or form. Not supporting this team is the dumbest thing I heard bc you don't like the coaches staff. I don't see how any player would want to come play for our idiotic redneck fans. I will be supporting the vols through thick and thin. Go vols
Click to expand...

Just as bad of you to call anyone who disagrees with you a redneck. You do not know anymore than those calling for a change either btw. People should be able to voice their opinion (I think it should be respectful though), without you calling names and saying their opinion is wrong (as fact not your opinion).

For the record, I thought we would have a great year this year and think Butch is a great guy, but I do not like that he does not take more responsibility for bad descisions (not coach speak "it starts with me") stuff, but meaningful specific things, like not going for two instead of using chart excuse which did not make sense anyway. I do not know if he should be fired this year (if lose to Alabama and Georgia which is likely), because of the money they would have to pay and subsequently would lower what they can or will pay for proven coach. Probably just have to wait it out til he either makes great improvement or more money is available imo.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#45
#45
VolsSportsFan said:
Your point? Dooley had supporters to the end too.
Click to expand...

There are VN'ers that support/apologize for Dooley STILL.

Also, to the OP, do you really think that Tennessee has the only fan base that expects to win? Really? Have you ever left your parent's house?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#46
#46
FiremedicVOL127 said:
This is soooooo stupid!!!!! Our players have not quit on this coaching staff!! I guess we must have been watching 2 very different games if you think they have!! The problem is that slot of you so called fans (and i use that term loosely) are hoping and wanting tho to be true so you will have something else to ***** and moan about.
Click to expand...

(ALL) UT fans want nothing more that to win and not be embarrassed nationally anymore. Eight years of it is enough. It has to stop now.

The players didnt quit. They just suck. They suck even thought they were HIGHLY recruited. They suck because they were coached poorly and taught that because they are young, they should not expect to win. Their coach apologized and makes excuses for them before the damn games are even played.

I LOVE the Vols, or what used to be the Vols when they cared as a football program. Now they are an apology factory pumping out very sub par product.

I am a paying fan and also a Volunteer having spent 6 year and two degrees worth of money there in Knoxville.

When the university is embarrassed then I, by extension, am embarrassed.

If you didnt go to UT, and are just a fan, then you can just quit being a fan and root for Alabama (many people in Nashville do just that). But I CANT not be a Vol. I'm a Vol until I die because thats where I went to school. Thats who I pledged my allegiance to.

Its not easy to see your coach sell out your program. Sorry if you dont understand.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#47
#47
BeecherVol said:
Do you think the players Jones recruited, is in the process of developing, preparing during the week to play and coaching on Saturday lost the game?
Click to expand...

Some of them are responsible. Certainly Dobbs, Williams, Malone are. Some are holdovers. But I believe that is beside the point.

I think the players know, particularly the receivers, know that Dobbs can't pass the ball. It appears Butch is too stubborn to make a change. IF that is the case it will/has affected the performance of the team. They start doubting the 4th quarter.

That is why you make the change. It's not just to get better passing, it says to the team you are aware of what is going on and you are willing to change the player if that is what it takes. If I am right, and I think I am, Butch will make the change soon. If I am right and he doesn't then he will lose the team eventually.
 
#48
#48
MWAVolfan said:
(ALL) UT fans want nothing more that to win and not be embarrassed nationally anymore. Eight years of it is enough. It has to stop now.

The players didnt quit. They just suck. They suck even thought they were HIGHLY recruited. They suck because they were coached poorly and taught that because they are young, they should not expect to win. Their coach apologized and makes excuses for them before the damn games are even played.

I LOVE the Vols, or what used to be the Vols when they cared as a football program. Now they are an apology factory pumping out very sub par product.

I am a paying fan and also a Volunteer having spent 6 year and two degrees worth of money there in Knoxville.

When the university is embarrassed then I, by extension, am embarrassed.

If you didnt go to UT, and are just a fan, then you can just quit being a fan and root for Alabama (many people in Nashville do just that). But I CANT not be a Vol. I'm a Vol until I die because thats where I went to school. Thats who I pledged my allegiance to.

Its not easy to see your coach sell out your program. Sorry if you dont understand.
Click to expand...

I went to Tennessee and am a grad also but my grandparents and father did not. The idea of dismissing those who did not go to UT as a student is a joke. My family has had season tickets since the 60's and they bleed UT orange. These are the people who built their business and in turn funded what you have today. So step off you high and mighty horse fellow grad and have some respect for the others that are hurting just as bad as you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#49
#49
This is just a bad team all around. The QB can't throw a pass to save his life, and when it is anywhere close to a receiver they drop it. The offense line is bad, and the defense is awfull! All that and that is not even goin in to the coaching issues. It is just a bad team all around, and I guess I was wrong to expect more out of the team in year 3 with Butch!
 
#50
#50
vavolunteer said:
However, we have been very limited because of injuries and depth.

If we're rational about this, these losses were heartbreaking, but shouldn't have been completely unexpected. Anyone screaming to fire Butch or the OC or DC right now are just not looking at reality. :twocents:
Click to expand...

Some of you guys act like we have played the patriots, Ohio State, and Bama. Nothing that is true of us was not equally or more true of who we played.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top