The WRASSLIN’ Thread

[chavisut]

Dynamite looks good again tonight.


If Hangman loses, I might have to take a break ha

 

[JCHateSteve]

Watching the AEW production team "get back at" the Bucks is hysterical.

Also, The Outrunners are a national treasure.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

"Hangman wins with a huge assist from Darby Allin"

Darby only took out the security, he missed the Death Riders

 

[VolInNorthCack]

Anyone watch Unreal yet? I’m 100% against it, but I’m still watching. It’s pretty informative, but I’m worried it’s pulling back the curtain further than it needs to.

Nope.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

Just watching Dynamite. Perplexed as to why the World Championship match is in the middle of the show??? It's about 10 minutes into it. All I can think of is that maybe AEW has been weak in the quarters that the match covers or something. Trying to keep the numbers from nosediving maybe? Just very odd to me.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Just watching Dynamite. Perplexed as to why the World Championship match is in the middle of the show??? It's about 10 minutes into it. All I can think of is that maybe AEW has been weak in the quarters that the match covers or something. Trying to keep the numbers from nosediving maybe? Just very odd to me.

I liked that they did that so you don't know how long it would last, as opposed to being the main event so you know it's ending at the top of the hour.

What i didn't like, and it's something i hate about AEW, is the refs dont enforce rules. There's a 10 count sometimes and not sometimes, they just pick and choose when they're allowed to break rules.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

I liked that they did that so you don't know how long it would last, as opposed to being the main event so you know it's ending at the top of the hour.

What i didn't like, and it's something i hate about AEW, is the refs dont enforce rules. There's a 10 count sometimes and not sometimes, they just pick and choose when they're allowed to break rules.

WWE does the same.
But I get what you're saying. I mean, shouldn't using the steps against your opponent be grounds for DQ lol? Was it a no -DQ match? I don't know anymore. I just go into every match thinking it's no -DQ and I cope.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

WWE does the same.
But I get what you're saying. I mean, shouldn't using the steps against your opponent be grounds for DQ lol? Was it a no -DQ match? I don't know anymore. I just go into every match thinking it's no -DQ and I cope.

I think if you drop them on the steps or announce desk it's legal, if you hit them eith it it's illegal, same with throwing them into the barricade. I could be wrong.

WWE does it to but not to the level of AEW. I had a problem with WWE a few weeks ago when they had that #1 contender gauntlet match, all of the sudden gauntlet matches became no DQ when they never were before.

I like rules.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

I think if you drop them on the steps or announce desk it's legal, if you hit them eith it it's illegal, same with throwing them into the barricade. I could be wrong.

WWE does it to but not to the level of AEW. I had a problem with WWE a few weeks ago when they had that #1 contender gauntlet match, all of the sudden gauntlet matches became no DQ when they never were before.

I like rules.

Right?? I feel like every time there’s more than 2 people in a match, even if one of those is an interference match, WWE is like “oh no a third body, now it’s no DQ!” But then the very next episode we’ll get interference “OMG I can’t believe that just happened! Now it’s disqualified and…OMG, now it’s a slaughter!”

 

[JCHateSteve]

I liked that they did that so you don't know how long it would last, as opposed to being the main event so you know it's ending at the top of the hour.

What i didn't like, and it's something i hate about AEW, is the refs dont enforce rules. There's a 10 count sometimes and not sometimes, they just pick and choose when they're allowed to break rules.

I think it's because AEW hates matches that end in DQ. The pride themselves on the fact that it almost never happens in the promotion. To get that done, the refs give more "leeway", I guess?

I remember when getting thrown over the top rope was a DQ, much less getting put through the Spanish announce desk. Everyone has gotten more permissive on extracurricular stuff. I can see wanting it dialed back. But at the same time I don't want to go back to old WCW with 3/4 of the matches ending in DQ.

 

[Regulator]

I like knowing the secrets of the past, it's interesting. But I don't like spoilers and try to avoid them.

I’ve watched two episodes so far and I enjoy it. I like seeing the behind the scenes interactions and getting some insight into how this lead to that then to the other, who came up with this idea, etc.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

I think it's because AEW hates matches that end in DQ. The pride themselves on the fact that it almost never happens in the promotion. To get that done, the refs give more "leeway", I guess?

I remember when getting thrown over the top rope was a DQ, much less getting put through the Spanish announce desk. Everyone has gotten more permissive on extracurricular stuff. I can see wanting it dialed back. But at the same time I don't want to go back to old WCW with 3/4 of the matches ending in DQ.

Then don't do things that should lead to a DQ, abide by the 10 count so the refs don't look incompetent, imo.

 

[JCHateSteve]

Then don't do things that should lead to a DQ, abide by the 10 count so the refs don't look incompetent, imo.

The 10 count has never been consistent. Even in the 80s. That's not an AEW thing. That's a wrestling thing. Maybe do a 20 count instead like Japan? The problem with old school wrestling was you got the same match over and over again. The "rules" have slowly been relaxed because the strict rules made things repetitive.

 

[chavisut]

Mark Briscoe promo was great. This run with MJF has definitely shown he can hang in the upper mid card and main event scene.

The title match in the middle didn’t bother me as much. Announcers made sure to emphasize wanting enough time to let it go long and it allowed them to continue to build the MJF/Briscoe/Hamgman storyline at the end of show.

The women’s division continues to bring it.

Loving the Young Bucks jobber treatment.

Also, MJF either realigns with FTR, costing HS the titles or this is all a set up for Hurt Syndicate to destroy Hangman for MJF.

 

[JCHateSteve]

The new move Brody and Bandito pulled out tonight should be their new finisher. I'm not even gonna try to explain it. You'll known it when you see it.

Also, Darby just chloroformed Mox.

 

[chavisut]

Are they building towards a women’s Blood and Guts?

 

[n_huffhines]

I'm probably in the bottom 25% of wrestling fans in terms of understanding admittedly, but I can't fathom why people think the Montreal screw job is the biggest screw job of all-time? Hart was leaving. It's not good for the business to leave with the belt. You have to protect the biz.

I disagree with Vince on so much, but that was the right move, and it's even more clear that it was with the benefit of hindsight.

Following up on this from a while ago, Cody Rhodes was on the Bill Simmons pod and made a compelling case that the Montreal Screw Job was a work. I don't think he's totally convinced, but he's very suspicious. His biggest clue is that there was a documentary crew there to get all the raw footage behind the scenes, which was not something Vince often allowed...so why would he allow it on screw job day?

 

[JCHateSteve]

Are they building towards a women’s Blood and Guts?

Looks that way. It's funny, nearly everyone on the babyface side has been "misted" at some point. I still hold out hope we'll get "Evil Willow" one day.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Following up on this from a while ago, Cody Rhodes was on the Bill Simmons pod and made a compelling case that the Montreal Screw Job was a work. I don't think he's totally convinced, but he's very suspicious. His biggest clue is that there was a documentary crew there to get all the raw footage behind the scenes, which was not something Vince often allowed...so why would he allow it on screw job day?

I think Scott Hall also believed it was a work.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

My lord, this Cena heel run may go done as the worst heel run of all time. So he’s a face again because…why, exactly?

 

[Pennheel]

My lord, this Cena heel run may go done as the worst heel run of all time. So he’s a face again because…why, exactly?

I think he turns back heel at SummerSlam. This is just a ruse to set Cody up.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

I think he turns back heel at SummerSlam. This is just a ruse to set Cody up.

I think if there’s a heel turn, it’s a Cody heel turn.

 

[Pennheel]

I think if there’s a heel turn, it’s a Cody heel turn.

That's a possibility, too.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

Following up on this from a while ago, Cody Rhodes was on the Bill Simmons pod and made a compelling case that the Montreal Screw Job was a work. I don't think he's totally convinced, but he's very suspicious. His biggest clue is that there was a documentary crew there to get all the raw footage behind the scenes, which was not something Vince often allowed...so why would he allow it on screw job day?

I'm still sure it was a work.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

I think he turns back heel at SummerSlam. This is just a ruse to set Cody up.

One of them is going to turn.