The ways I sees it...

[UT's#1Fan]

We're in a win/win situation...

• Win and we are likely for sure in the NCAA with a chance to send the gators home early and further bolster our NCAA resume. This scenario helps build Conzos coaching resume and hopefully Purdue comes ah-call'n.
• Lose and Conzo likely gets the boot and we can go after a coach that shall remain unnamed as to avoid the thread being merged with another thread that shall also remain unnamed.

You see, if Arky would have beat USCe, and if we'da lost to them, it would have been somewhat justifiable to the Conzoites. Now, we're set up pretty nice and a loss would be inexusable.

Wertcha thank?

 

[golfballs]

I think you should give it a rest and try to enjoy the post season

 

[PagingDrVol]

I think three things...
1. The next school CCM coaches at will be one with a better basketball tradition than UT.

2. That UT fans should be careful what they wish for, because there's an excellent chance that the next coach won't win 60 games in his first three seasons here.

3. That UT fans who are disappointed with CCMs performance this year did that to themselves, by creating expectations in their own heads about how good this team would be (when no one in the national media had us ranked preseason, that says something), by pumping sunshine, then choosing to believe it, and then getting turned off when the team performed almost exactly like the experts outside the Vol Bubble said they would.

Heck, let's make it four things:
4. There is a 100% chance that Bruce Pearl will never coach here again.

 

[UT's#1Fan]

I think you should give it a rest and try to enjoy the post season

At the expense of our programs future? It's hard to do, but i'll try.

 

[golfballs]

At the expense of our programs future? It's hard to do, but i'll try.

Give it a shot. See how it goes :thumbsup:

 

[gnm53108]

Lets just win this thing.

 

[Stoked]

I think three things...
1. The next school CCM coaches at will be one with a better basketball tradition than UT.

2. That UT fans should be careful what they wish for, because there's an excellent chance that the next coach won't win 60 games in his first three seasons here.

3. That UT fans who are disappointed with CCMs performance this year did that to themselves, by creating expectations in their own heads about how good this team would be (when no one in the national media had us ranked preseason, that says something), by pumping sunshine, then choosing to believe it, and then getting turned off when the team performed almost exactly like the experts outside the Vol Bubble said they would.

Heck, let's make it four things:
4. There is a 100% chance that Bruce Pearl will never coach here again.

Sorry next year we'll just expect to be a bubble team. Get out of here with that bs. This team had all the tools to be ranked and to be a 6 seed or lower and not battling for a play in game.

 

[Stoked]

I gave CCM 2 1/2 years and he's been the same coach that he's been since he stepped foot on campus. He coaches 1-2 months out of the year and then takes a vacation the rest of the year and hopes that by coaching 1-2 months that it will be enough.

 

[lostsheep]

We're in a win/win situation...

• Win and we are likely for sure in the NCAA with a chance to send the gators home early and further bolster our NCAA resume. This scenario helps build Conzos coaching resume and hopefully Purdue comes ah-call'n.
• Lose and Conzo likely gets the boot and we can go after a coach that shall remain unnamed as to avoid the thread being merged with another thread that shall also remain unnamed.

You see, if Arky would have beat USCe, and if we'da lost to them, it would have been somewhat justifiable to the Conzoites. Now, we're set up pretty nice and a loss would be inexusable.

Wertcha thank?

As someone who doesn't think CCM is the long-term answer here, I can appreciate your optimism. However, I don't really see either happening, for a couple of reasons:

1) I don't think the current UT AD is going to fire a guy who wins 20 games and is currently slated as 'in' the tourney...even if they lose today. Heck, all indications are that they were close to keeping Dooley another year had he won another game or so his last year.

2) I'm not an insider (and don't pretend to be), but I don't know that CBP is really an option here any longer, IMO. This may change if he doesn't take a job somewhere else this year and CCM struggles next year. Will definitely be interesting this time next year, if that's the case.

Either way...as many have said...I hope this current team wins as many as they can, mainly because I think these players deserve to go out on a positive.

 

[gnm53108]

I gave CCM 2 1/2 years and he's been the same coach that he's been since he stepped foot on campus. He coaches 1-2 months out of the year and then takes a vacation the rest of the year and hopes that by coaching 1-2 months that it will be enough.

If he coaches for three more days and gets us a SECT Championship that'll be more than enough. Heck he'd probably get an extension and a raise.

 

[PagingDrVol]

Sorry next year we'll just expect to be a bubble team. Get out of here with that bs. This team had all the tools to be ranked and to be a 6 seed or lower and not battling for a play in game.

Thanks for providing a perfect example of life in the Vol Bubble, a charming place where all our teams are championship material preseason, and all our coaches suck mid season and post season, when they perform exactly to realist expectations.

 

[rickyb712]

lost to vandy then destroyed them
lost to texas am twice
lost to utep
lost to xavier by 4 i believe then beat them
lost to missouri then destroyed them
lost to ncst
thats 7 loses right coaching all year and if won 4 of those we would we 24 -7

 

[Rudy123]

I think three things...
1. The next school CCM coaches at will be one with a better basketball tradition than UT.

2. That UT fans should be careful what they wish for, because there's an excellent chance that the next coach won't win 60 games in his first three seasons here.

3. That UT fans who are disappointed with CCMs performance this year did that to themselves, by creating expectations in their own heads about how good this team would be (when no one in the national media had us ranked preseason, that says something), by pumping sunshine, then choosing to believe it, and then getting turned off when the team performed almost exactly like the experts outside the Vol Bubble said they would.

Heck, let's make it four things:
4. There is a 100% chance that Bruce Pearl will never coach here again.

Yes, you are correct, (be careful what you wish for)

I remember many people being critical of Chavis while he was here. However; I bet we all would have prefered him here as opposed to having Sal here in 2012. And Chavis left here and has gone on to be successful at that same position at LSU.

would be horrible if Martin did leave and he ends up being a real successful coach at another university.

 

[calban]

We're in a win/win situation...

• Win and we are likely for sure in the NCAA with a chance to send the gators home early and further bolster our NCAA resume. This scenario helps build Conzos coaching resume and hopefully Purdue comes ah-call'n.
• Lose and Conzo likely gets the boot and we can go after a coach that shall remain unnamed as to avoid the thread being merged with another thread that shall also remain unnamed.

You see, if Arky would have beat USCe, and if we'da lost to them, it would have been somewhat justifiable to the Conzoites. Now, we're set up pretty nice and a loss would be inexusable.

Wertcha thank?

I think yer record's stu, stu, stu, stu,stu, stu,stu......

 

[Stoked]

Thanks for providing a perfect example of life in the Vol Bubble, a charming place where all our teams are championship material preseason, and all our coaches suck mid season and post season, when they perform exactly to realist expectations.

Even CCM's biggest supporters were predicting 24-7 season. Look at our losses, 24-7 was a very realistic and attainable record. Sweeping TAMU, beating Mizzou, and beating Vandy would have got us that.

 

[MannyD]

This fan base deserves Brian Gregory.

 

[cncchris33]

Sorry next year we'll just expect to be a bubble team. Get out of here with that bs. This team had all the tools to be ranked and to be a 6 seed or lower and not battling for a play in game.

He didn't say anything that isn't true. You need some perspective IMO.

He said things could be worse and that the next coach probably wouldn't average 20 wins per season. The youthful populous of our fanbase was spoiled by the Pearl years. Many have suffered through much worse than what we've seen over the past three seasons.

He said (and I said it preseason myself) that our team was a little overrated by our fanbase with respect to the perception of our team from a national standpoint. There were some crazy Elite 8 expectations by some around here in September. Even Sweet 16 demands for a team and a coach that hasn't even tasted the tournament in three years was a lofty, yet attainable goal. And it still is.

What he didn't say, is that we should accept mediocrity. That is an example of you putting words into his mouth. Things have been, and could be much worse. Ask Auburn. Ask Vandy. Ask South Carolina.

I'm not carrying water for Cuonzo, so please don't confuse this as such, but I think you probably fall into that demographic that was spoiled by the Pearl years. I was spoiled by the 90's football teams that "disappointed" me with 11-2 records.

Just enjoy the fact that we still have a shot to make some noise, even if we didn't meet your expectations. We were likely ranked a top 30-40 team preseason, and lo and behold, that's about where we've landed, even if it were in unspectacular fashion. A time will come for judgement with CCM, and he'll likely be judged on what he does in the next couple weeks.

 

[volboy81]

This year has been disappointing due to expectations. If we aren't hiring Pearl, we may as well keep Cuonzo!
If we beat USCe today, we should be in, esp since Ark went down

 

[RileyThaBasedGod]

We're in a win/win situation...

• Win and we are likely for sure in the NCAA with a chance to send the gators home early and further bolster our NCAA resume. This scenario helps build Conzos coaching resume and hopefully Purdue comes ah-call'n.
• Lose and Conzo likely gets the boot and we can go after a coach that shall remain unnamed as to avoid the thread being merged with another thread that shall also remain unnamed.

You see, if Arky would have beat USCe, and if we'da lost to them, it would have been somewhat justifiable to the Conzoites. Now, we're set up pretty nice and a loss would be inexusable.

Wertcha thank?

I think you should change that name bruh

 

[UT's#1Fan]

The writing is on the wall... we've been down this road with Dooley. How soon do people forget.

We have so underachieved this year it's ridiculous.

We go on a streak of beating the league’s worst teams and now people are screaming for a extension and raise for this guy.

We have 2 players on the all SEC team, 1 on the all SEC defense team and we're soundly on the bubble.

I think we can all agree things look bad for next year... and I wonder why? Maybe we land the 5* big man who ended up signing with UCLA late last year if we would have made the NCAA's last year. Instead we sucked it up until a late push at the end of the season and found ourselves on the outside looking in for the second year in a row. Next year’s suck is on Counzo yet people will probably give him a pass. Think about it... our team is stacked this year and we're likely going to barely make the tourney. I don't care about his 20 wins a year... what matters is NCAA tournament wins... who many of those does he have????

 

[Manvol]

1. Win, Cuonzo stays
2. Lose, Cuonzo stays

He's not going anywhere.

 

[walkenvol]

I think three things...
2. That UT fans should be careful what they wish for, because there's an excellent chance that the next coach won't win 60 games in his first three seasons here.

3. That UT fans who are disappointed with CCMs performance this year did that to themselves, by creating expectations in their own heads about how good this team would be (when no one in the national media had us ranked preseason, that says something), by pumping sunshine, then choosing to believe it, and then getting turned off when the team performed almost exactly like the experts outside the Vol Bubble said they would.

2. In light of CCM's recruiting rankings since he's been at UT, its a fair expectation that CCM won't win 60 games if he's allowed to remain at UT for 3 more years.

3. My disappointment as a UT fan was the inconsistent style of play from game to game. The team had no identity until the last few weeks. Once they consistently started pushing the ball up the court and playing inside then out the results followed. Bash VN all you want, but the majority of the board was calling for this style of play from the start. They may come out this weekend and play awful, but I'll be surprised if they do. If they stick to the recipie, they should be in the mix in every game the rest of the season. This was my expectation from the start. You've got an experienced team that should have known their identity from the get go, instead they floundered around through 2/3 of the season.

 

[imbubbaspitcup]

I think three things...
1. The next school CCM coaches at will be one with a better basketball tradition than UT.

2. That UT fans should be careful what they wish for, because there's an excellent chance that the next coach won't win 60 games in his first three seasons here.

3. That UT fans who are disappointed with CCMs performance this year did that to themselves, by creating expectations in their own heads about how good this team would be (when no one in the national media had us ranked preseason, that says something), by pumping sunshine, then choosing to believe it, and then getting turned off when the team performed almost exactly like the experts outside the Vol Bubble said they would.

Heck, let's make it four things:
4. There is a 100% chance that Bruce Pearl will never coach here again.

Wow! Very well said. I agree with you 100%. It's good to know that we still have true smart Vol fans!

 

[Stoked]

He didn't say anything that isn't true. You need some perspective IMO.

He said things could be worse and that the next coach probably wouldn't average 20 wins per season. The youthful populous of our fanbase was spoiled by the Pearl years. Many have suffered through much worse than what we've seen over the past three seasons.

He said (and I said it preseason myself) that our team was a little overrated by our fanbase with respect to the perception of our team from a national standpoint. There were some crazy Elite 8 expectations by some around here in September. Even Sweet 16 demands for a team and a coach that hasn't even tasted the tournament in three years was a lofty, yet attainable goal. And it still is.

What he didn't say, is that we should accept mediocrity. That is an example of you putting words into his mouth. Things have been, and could be much worse. Ask Auburn. Ask Vandy. Ask South Carolina.

I'm not carrying water for Cuonzo, so please don't confuse this as such, but I think you probably fall into that demographic that was spoiled by the Pearl years. I was spoiled by the 90's football teams that "disappointed" me with 11-2 records.

Just enjoy the fact that we still have a shot to make some noise, even if we didn't meet your expectations. We were likely ranked a top 30-40 team preseason, and lo and behold, that's about where we've landed, even if it were in unspectacular fashion. A time will come for judgement with CCM, and he'll likely be judged on what he does in the next couple weeks.

Just thought it was our year. Yeah I had my expectations high...but who wouldn't had with 2 first team all sec players? That's the thing. We have two of the best players in the SEC and yet we lose 7 games in the weakest the SEC has been in years. I'm not going to apologize for wanting more. Yeah it could be worse, but guess what it could be better too. Martin didn't even seem like he wanted to be here until the fanbase and national media started putting a little pressure on him. That's my only problem. At worst we should be 23--8 14-4 because we should have swept TAMU and Vandy. If you don't think that's realistic then idk what to tell you...

 

[golfballs]

1. Win, Cuonzo stays
2. Lose, Cuonzo stays

He's not going anywhere.

Particularly if we still get into the tournament despite a loss today