The wait on coaching moves

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Volnbeers said:
oh so pruitt is actually involved in the hiring of HIS staff this time around?
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Bruh just posting what was released. I’m sure those he has reached out to have verified he can’t hire yet either. Doesn’t matter WHO hires his staff...nobody is going to be happy unless it’s Tennessee hiring a new HC.
 
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KeyVol14 said:
This year being a mulligan is a bogus excuse. Other schools are making changes and no one wants to hear it anymore
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Gus was at AU 6 years, Herman was at Texas 4 years, Muschamp 8 years. Not many schools fire a coach after 3 years. Especially when year 3 is covid year. It ain't happening. Accept it.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Gus was at AU 6 years, Herman was at Texas 4 years, Muschamp 8 years. Not many schools fire a coach after 3 years. Especially when year 3 is covid year. It ain't happening. Accept it.
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So what is pruitts excuse for getting blown out at home by Kentucky...or that the margin of victory against the big 3 was as big as it is
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I tend to have a more cynical view. I think UT wants to fire Pruitt and is looking to see if they can get out of paying his full buyout with a show cause. They may very well end up having to buy him out but they are going to exhaust this possibility first. There is no way in hell you bring back a 3-7 coach in year 3 with a blowout loss at home to Kentucky!
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If you think they want Pruitt out NOW, who do you think they want NOW? What guy has power team's attention, that appears to prioritize UT as a destination?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Gus was at AU 6 years, Herman was at Texas 4 years, Muschamp 8 years. Not many schools fire a coach after 3 years. Especially when year 3 is covid year. It ain't happening. Accept it.
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And Gus went 12-2 his first year after Chizik went 3-9 the year before he got there. Then Gus went 8-5 and 7-6. His worst year was this year at 6-4 and that still wasn't good enough for Auburn. But you can't compare a guy that goes 12-2 year one after a coach goes 3-9 and he shows that much promise. Beats Bama in the Iron Bowl and goes to the BCS Championship game vs Florida State and loses 34-31. If our esteemed leader went 12-2 year one I'm pretty sure that he would be given 6 years even if he did fall flat on his face this year.

The prior 3 years to Herman at Texas under Strong they went 6-7, 5-7, and 5-7. He goes 7-6, 10-4, 8-5, and 7-3 and is still shown the door. Texas is a weird place because not many people would be fired after Herman's record. I mean he was 7-3 this year with his losses to TCU, Oklahoma, and Iowa State. They beat Oklahoma St when they were #6 in the country and won their last two games with a huge blowout of 69-31 over Kansas St and a 55-23 beating over Colorado in the bowl game. And they STILL fired the guy.

South Carolina doesn't have exactly the same expectations as some places and this was Muschamp's 5th year at South Carolina. He goes 6-7, 9-4, and 7-6 his first 3 years. But then falls off to 4-8 last year and off the rails this year.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
If you think they want Pruitt out NOW, who do you think they want NOW? What guy has power team's attention, that appears to prioritize UT as a destination?
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I have no idea who they actually want but I know there are plenty of coaches out there who would absolutely do a better job than Pruitt...

Hugh Freeze
Tom Herman (no buyout either!)
Gus Malzahn (no buyout either!)
Matt Campbell
Luke Fickell
Jamey Chadwell

Any one of these would be an immediate upgrade hire over Pruitt.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I have no idea who they actually want but I know there are plenty of coaches out there who would absolutely do a better job than Pruitt...

Hugh Freeze
Tom Herman (no buyout either!)
Gus Malzahn (no buyout either!)
Matt Campbell
Luke Fickell
Jamey Chadwell

Any one of these would be an immediate upgrade hire over Pruitt.
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I really can't take a list led by Freeze as a serious effort to answer my specific question. His lack of offers from the field is telling for sure. The fired guys could be our best options, but that does not mean that they pass the eye test by the guys with the checkbooks. Just like fans, they get vote with their wallets, theirs are just more relative to getting a new coach. I don't think they buy into the fire now, there is always somebody better school of thought. In fact, I would tend to believe they told CPF if you pull a Hamilton or a Curry and fire a coach then go hunting, don't call me wanting money, and in the year of COVID their money is more important than ever. They may want a bigger bang for their buck than they see out there. I would guess they wonder if Chadwell's offense will play in the SEC, and question how long Campbell would be around before he pulled a Kiffin. Fickell? Don't have a clue. Maybe he is being vetted.
 
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Is there a timeframe on the investigations or are we as clueless about this as we are regarding Pruitt’s long term status as HC? How long do investigations like this normally take historically?
 
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ATLVols said:
The wait is driving me crazy. I’m waiting for a signal of assistant coaching hires or a head coaching change. I don’t know what Tennessee will do, but either will signal our direction for next year. With assistant coaching jobs available, we don’t seem to be making moves and that’s weird. That makes me question what will happen at the top. The later timing and no movement either way is strange.

In my opinion, we are waiting on either news to break.
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I think Fulmer is paralyzed by indecision and is hoping the problem will sort itself out next season. He thinks he can avoid a decision by pretending the problem isn’t that serious yet.
 
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ATLVols said:
I am not against Pruitt. I went from a supporter to now on the fence. I think he can succeed if we can find a good offense. But the wheels were falling off recently, so that might force our hand. Just commenting about the wait and no news is strange.
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Pruitt cannot succeed. He’s too stupid to get out of his own way. He will micromanage until he’s out of a job.
 
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The silence is probably better than the constant spin coming off Fulmer's desk and out of the Athletic Department's PR chute, as there is no way to spin a potential NCAA recruiting or extra benefit infraction, regardless of how big or how small, Bruce Pearl taught us better than that, when the department cannot message objectively, best to say nothing, the fan base, the donors, the conference and NCAA compliance officers didn't fall off the turnip truck this morning, Fulmer just hasn't figured that out, aight?, don't forget the glowing statement from Fulmer about the wonderful opportunity to compete in the Liberty Bowl, in front of our alumni, students and faculty in the Memphis area and then a rather abrupt decision less than 12 hours later that Tennessee would not be participating under the convenient cover of COVID, which nobody believes, particularly after watching other schools sideline the necessary staff and athletes that were subject to the protocol, while the team competed, even Saban sat out a game for tracing and a positive test, but the team carried on.

The facts won't be changed just because Fulmer elects to ignore them, the team and the program are in disarray, a top 25 preseason team went 3-7 in a conference only season, each loss was by double digits and the athletic department is bleeding significant red ink and will continue to struggle financially with diminishing revenues from the conference, ticket sales, booster contributions and sales of licensed merchandise, they aren't broke yet, but they will spend a boatload of money between now and the end of June on the myriad of non revenue sports, some of which other schools have already done away with.
 
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As for hiring assistant coaches, or a new HC, for that matter, who wants to come to the prom dance when the dance hall is on fire? But, that's just me.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There will be no head coaching hire. Pruitt is the coach for this year. As far as assistants, apparently there is some interest in a big time loser in the NFL for OL. DL might be Bo Davis of the Lions. One of the worst defenses in the NFL.

So I would expect those loser hires along with some other losers to jump aboard.
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I think what you wanted to say is loser.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I have no idea who they actually want but I know there are plenty of coaches out there who would absolutely do a better job than Pruitt...

Hugh Freeze
Tom Herman (no buyout either!)
Gus Malzahn (no buyout either!)
Matt Campbell
Luke Fickell
Jamey Chadwell

Any one of these would be an immediate upgrade hire over Pruitt.
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Jamey Chadwell would never be given enough time by the fans to get his system in place...
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There will be no head coaching hire. Pruitt is the coach for this year. As far as assistants, apparently there is some interest in a big time loser in the NFL for OL. DL might be Bo Davis of the Lions. One of the worst defenses in the NFL.

So I would expect those loser hires along with some other losers to jump aboard.
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Who else can we attract at out level, we're at that point where coaches go to earn a living before they get a real job
 
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VOLfrombama said:
This is the reason for the delay. UT has lawyered up, so now the game has begun. Could be something big and ugly, could be a giant nothingburger with extra cheese. Until we find out what's really going on behind closed doors, I wouldn't expect any hires.
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Lawyered up! Hired Dingaling, Dingalberry, DaNut. That's the Vol way!
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There will be no head coaching hire. Pruitt is the coach for this year. As far as assistants, apparently there is some interest in a big time loser in the NFL for OL. DL might be Bo Davis of the Lions. One of the worst defenses in the NFL.

So I would expect those loser hires along with some other losers to jump aboard.
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Nobody knows this. If this was the case Pruitt would have already gotten the go ahead to hire Assistant's. What none of us know is what is found in the investigation and if it's true that Pruitt got caught lying to an investigator then it's not a good look for anyone.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There will be no head coaching hire. Pruitt is the coach for this year. As far as assistants, apparently there is some interest in a big time loser in the NFL for OL. DL might be Bo Davis of the Lions. One of the worst defenses in the NFL.

So I would expect those loser hires along with some other losers to jump aboard.
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No I think you might be wrong...They are not renewing contracts now and not even allowing Pruitt to hire anybody and UT just hired Glazer so I am guessing they are talking about a reduced buyout due to the ongoing investigation...But you can believe whatever you like.
 
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