The Venezuela thread

What Do You Think About This?

  • Doesn't really make sense.

    Votes: 11 16.7%

  • Unnecessary.

    Votes: 21 31.8%

  • I love it! We can get more oil!

    Votes: 20 30.3%

  • I can see why it might happen, but not comfortable with it.

    Votes: 14 21.2%
  • Total voters
    66
#676
#676
GroverCleveland said:
From a friend of whose wife is Venezuelan:

"We are very excited and happy about it! My wife's sister was in a friend's apartment in Caracas at 2 a.m. preparing to return home when a large bomb detonated one kilometer away. Needless to say, the blast was felt. She was unable to return home until later this morning. My wife's family in Venezuela is safe and unharmed. Everyone is optimistic and hopeful about the future now for the first time in many years. "
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You could change the country name to probably 80+ others and still say the same thing.

If a country invaded the U.S. and took out Trump, a good portion of the population here would be jumping for joy. 🤷‍♂️
 
#678
#678
utvolpj said:
When we break this and it turns into a civil war where do we think all the refugees are going to go? If it's anything like Afg, Somalia, etc....
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"We're coming to save people" continues to fail, time and time again. At least this isn't a large scale thing, at the moment.
 
#680
#680
marcusluvsvols said:
2026 Venezuela remains to be seen, and I read the post here of the Canadian fears regarding oil...but until proven otherwise I think it's about narcotics flow, Socialism/Democracy, and checking China/Russian influence on our doorstep.
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He's told us what it's about

"The U.S. plan for Venezuela includes "taking a tremendous amount of wealth out of the ground" and sharing it in part with Venezuelans, President Trump said during a press conference on Saturday."

Oil
 
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#683
#683
Trump 1) captured a dangerous dictator, no US casualties, 2) chasing China out of the Western Hemisphere 3) took control of 303 billion barrels of oil...

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TED@tedpillows

This is insane.

Venezuela holds 303B barrels of oil.

At ~$57/barrel, that’s $17.3T in reserves.

Even at half price, that’s $8.7T.

In hours, the US claimed control over oil worth more than every country’s GDP except the US and China.

That’s 4× Japan’s GDP.

Most people don’t realize how big this is.

Oil markets open Sunday 6 PM ET.

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Google AI
Today is January 3, 2026, and you're spot on—the scale of this shift is massive. In a stunning overnight operation, the U.S. captured Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, in Caracas. Hours later, President Trump held a press conference at Mar-a-Lago, declaring that the U.S. will temporarily "run the country" to oversee a transition.

Here’s the breakdown of the situation as it stands today:

The $17.3 Trillion Reserve Value

Your math aligns with the current estimates being reported:
  • Total Reserves: Venezuela holds approximately 303 billion barrels of proven crude oil—the largest in the world.
  • Market Valuation: At current prices of roughly $57/barrel, the gross value is indeed $17.3 trillion.
  • Economic Context: Even at a "half-price" valuation of $8.7 trillion, these reserves exceed the GDP of every nation on Earth except for the U.S. and China, and represent about four times Japan's GDP.

U.S. Control and Energy Strategy

The U.S. hasn't just "claimed" control; it has initiated a direct takeover of the administrative and industrial levers:
  • Direct Management: President Trump stated the U.S. will "run" Venezuela and its oil industry, bringing in major American oil companies to spend billions refurbishing the "gutted" infrastructure.
  • Military Presence: U.S. troops will maintain a presence specifically to secure and "get the oil flowing".
  • Asset Reclamation: Trump argues the oil was "illegally taken" from U.S. companies decades ago and that the U.S. will be reimbursed for damages via future oil wealth.

Market Impact

The world is bracing for Sunday night:
  • Sunday 6 PM ET: Oil markets open tomorrow evening. Analysts expect significant volatility as traders react to the sudden U.S. control of 20% of global reserves.
  • Long-term Reality: While the reserves are huge, production has plummeted to under 1 million barrels per day. It will likely take 5–10 years of heavy investment to reach full output capacity.
For the latest market reactions and updates on the transition, keep an eye on the Bloomberg Energy Tracker or Reuters Commodities
 
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#689
volfanhill said:
Sounds like nation building

"Trump said the U.S. would run Venezuela, a Latin American country of 29 million people with a faltering economy, for an indefinite period. “We’re going to run it, essentially, until a proper transition takes place,” he said.
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Notice how there's not a peep about a magnificent drop in fentanyl coming to the US with Maduro out of the picture?

 
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#691
#691
It will be interesting to see if/what activity occurs in and around the alleged (or documented) bases/outposts/military infrastructure set up by other nations in Venezuela as things develop. Russia and China have a presence, I'd think. Maybe Iran as well?
 
#694
#694
GroverCleveland said:
Really? 80? Do we need to get started?
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Absolutely, maybe all of them. Literally, you would have a good portion of the population here would be celebrating if a country invaded and took Trump. Luther would have a party and say how much better he is.

All this, we are coming to save you nonsense has been nonsense since Vietnam.
 
#697
#697
LSU-SIU said:
Absolutely, maybe all of them. Literally, you would have a good portion of the population here would be celebrating if a country invaded and took Trump. Luther would have a party and say how much better he is.

All this, we are coming to save you nonsense has been nonsense since Vietnam.
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That’s disturbing but not surprising.
I mean while New York is paying tribute to IslamoCommunism the people of Iran and Venezuela are praying for FREEDOM.
Hopefully the world is healing and NYC wakes up too.
 
#698
#698
Today the world is a better place because of our President. Venezuela's Citizens have hope for a better future now.
While I'm not MAGA, I think we can all do a Trump Dance today in celebration of a successful mission.
What happens next will determine if our actions were truly successful in aiding their nation and not just our interest.
Have a great Saturday vol brothers and sisters.

TDanceVol.mp4 [cut output image]
 
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#700
#700
MAD said:
That’s disturbing but not surprising.
I mean while New York is paying tribute to IslamoCommunism the people of Iran and Venezuela are praying for FREEDOM.
Hopefully the world is healing and NYC wakes up too.
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Everyone uses the word "freedom".

I don't think anyone is going to be able to explain this one to me. I'm not going to cry about it, but it just seems like the same ole rinse and repeat.
 
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