The USS Donald Trump?

[Grand Vol]

Here's a relatively non-controversial topic (lol) that should get the partisan juices flowing. Currently, we have the newer Ford Class aircraft carriers in production and with a planned run of a minimum of five, possibly more, in the long run. Currently, the lead ship is named after President Gerald Ford. The next two are planned to be named the USS Enterprise (which name has been a long and distinguished one in the US Navy service) and the USS John F Kennedy (also used previously as the lead class of aircraft carrier).

Currently, the US Navy has the following aircraft carriers in service named after Presidents:

USS Dwight Eisenhower
USS Teddy Roosevelt
USS Abe Lincoln
USS George Washington
USS Harry Truman
USS Ronald Reagan
USS George H. W. Bush

Should we stop the press right there? Only one President post WWII does not have a ship named after them nor one planned (Nixon). However, the other two post WWII Presidents do have ships named after them with Carter having a submarine and Johnson having a destroyer. Right now, the exceptions are: Clinton, George W. Bush and Obama which haven't had their name come up yet. And obviously Trump who is still in office.

FYI, 19 of the 45 Presidents have never had a ship named after them.

So, the question is with the two additional Ford class carriers planned, do they continue naming after Presidents with the chance of significant partisan outrage, even though Presidents are historic figures in United States history?

Or should the Navy move back to more historic names for aircraft carriers that have served with distinction like the USS Yorktown (WWII), USS Saratoga (WWII), USS Midway (Vietnam, Desert Storm), etc and avoid the politics of naming after controversial Presidents or other political figures?

 

[Mick]

 

[FLVOL69]

 

[volfanhill]

Each president should get one

 

[volinbham]

Historic names and/or military leaders. We should not name war machines after elected leaders IMHO.

 

[Grand Vol]

Each president should get one

We get 45 aircraft carriers?

The Navy will love that.

 

[DC_Vol]

The USS DC_Vol has a nice ring to it. A real projection of majesty and power.

 

[Grand Vol]

Historic names and/or military leaders. We should not name war machines after elected leaders IMHO.

What about military leaders that get elected? (Eisenhower)

 

[volinbham]

What about military leaders that get elected? (Eisenhower)

Grandfathered in for military leadership.

 

[FLVOL69]

Trump is destined for bigger things than that.

 

[volinbham]

USS Covfefe?

 

[C-south]

We get 45 aircraft carriers?

The Navy will love that.

Barry gets a dingy.

 

[volfanhill]

We get 45 aircraft carriers?

The Navy will love that.

Well as they are built. In order.

 

[distrovol]

If your going to name one after a President then it should be one of consequence and distinction. One that has had time for history to look back upon and evaluate fairly and in context.

I was on the Kennedy and never understood why he had one named after him.

 

[volinbham]

I guarantee USS P*ssyGrabber would strike fear into our foes.

 

[volinbham]

If your going to name one after a President then it should be one of consequence and distinction. One that has had time for history to look back upon and evaluate fairly and in context.

I was on the Kennedy and never understood why he had one named after him.

because he was shot - hate to be blunt but...

 

[DC_Vol]

I guarantee USS P*ssyGrabber would strike fear into our foes.

 

[Mick]

If Trump had a ship named after him, I'm sure it will be the biggest, baddest, fastest, most powerful piece of naval technology ever created with stealth technology and hover ability.

 

[volinbham]

If Trump had a ship named after him, I'm sure it will be the biggest, baddest, fastest, most powerful piece of naval technology ever created with stealth technology and hover ability.

and ability to put out fires from above

 

[distrovol]

because he was shot - hate to be blunt but...

Doesn’t seem like a good enough qualifier. His presidency wasn’t exactly stellar and history has shown his administration and personal life was pretty shady.

 

[volinbham]

Doesn’t seem like a good enough qualifier. His presidency wasn’t exactly stellar and history has shown his administration and personal life was pretty shady.

Camelot and assassination - it was the cult of personality + tragedy. We're idiots

 

[Grand Vol]

and ability to put out fires from above

It would create the fires and have the ability to put them out.

That's what makes it the most awesome.

 

[luthervol]

If your going to name one after a President then it should be one of consequence and distinction. One that has had time for history to look back upon and evaluate fairly and in context.

I was on the Kennedy and never understood why he had one named after him.

Camelot baby. And the fact that he actually served..........
And you don't question Reagan and Bush?

 

[volfanhill]

If Trump had a ship named after him, I'm sure it will be the biggest, baddest, fastest, most powerful piece of naval technology ever created with stealth technology and hover ability.

No walls on this ship? Big beautiful walls?

 

[volinbham]

Camelot baby. And the fact that he actually served..........
And you don't question Reagan and Bush?

What does Camelot mean to you? Why celebrate rich, white, privileged people?