The unfortunate truth about Alabama

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xpsyclonex2002

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I hate to say it, but we are not going to be able to beat Bama with any frequency as long as Saban is there. He's the best coach in the country hands down. Meyer isn't a close second. They recruit who they want and the rest of the country gets their seconds. Don't get this confused, I'm not saying we won't beat them. I'm saying that it's going to be a rare occasion. I would compare it to Maryville vs Alcoa. every 3 or 4 years Alcoa wins. Roast away.
 
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I hate to say it but we will and I understand why the heartless can't see it ! Just like fl and ga no one thought we would win those! Alabama sealed their fate with their bs , but hey it hurts but pain motivates and these Tennessee boys gonna kill some elephants ! Gutless useless fan base ! You don't deserve To call TENNESSEE HOME *****ES!
 
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The level of the recruiting is definitely the impediment. They roll coordinators in and out. Their scheme doesn't exist other than get the best guys you can and play hard, fundamentally sound football.
 
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I wish someone could get that midget in deep hoc with the NCAA, but that's not likely as long as the President of the NCAA is Mark Emmert.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
I hate to say it, but we are not going to be able to beat Bama with any frequency as long as Saban is there. He's the best coach in the country hands down. Meyer isn't a close second. They recruit who they want and the rest of the country gets their seconds. Don't get this confused, I'm not saying we won't beat them. I'm saying that it's going to be a rare occasion. I would compare it to Maryville vs Alcoa. every 3 or 4 years Alcoa wins. Roast away.
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Except we won't beat them until he retires and they hopefully replace him with a Mike Shula type
 
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Saban is a great coach. He is great because he somehow convinces all the 5 and high rated 4 stars to come to UA and watch other 5 stars play.

He's fallable....he typically loses at least one game a year he shouldn't. He out talents opponents more than out coaches them.

Get better 2 / 3 deep talent and you can beat him...but first you have to figure out the formula for getting the best to sign and watch. A few don't, but most do stay and wait their turn.
 
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Eventually someone will throw up a roadblock or two on some of his pipelines and the slide will begin. Maybe he bolts before it craters. Or maybe, like Fulmer, he clings on thinking he can turn it around. Right now, I think the best thing we can hope for is that LSU makes a VERY strong hire.
 
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80 percent of the team 4 and 5 stars, not just us nobody will beat them much as long as Nick is there, when we lose a player it hurts us when they lose a player they replace that player with somebody better, it finally caught up with us yesterday have the starters playing and bama put it to us there defense is one of his best.
 
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It's a rare day you will find Bama beat themselves, it's a hall mark of their program and it superseded Saban's arrival. You will not find Bama leading the league in penalties or penalty yards very often. Nor turnovers, INTs, blocked punts, all the sorts of things good football teams avoid tobecome good and elite. In the SEC when you beat Bama you have to really beat them as there is and always will be a thumb on the scale as long as the SEC home office is where it is at rent free. Granted Saban is one of the best coaches in the business, he does bring in talent on the regular. Again, no one that puts on a Bama uniform has more arms, legs, or heads than those on the opposing teams have. The first thing we or anyone else has to do is play solid fundamental mistake free football against a Saban coached team. We nor anyone else who has been on the field against them this year has done that. Next everyone needs to account for the speed of Hurts, we had defenders all day in just about the right places but always one or two steps behind where Hurts was. Last we have to be physical on the OL with them, yesterday, no matter who was wearing orange got physically whooped. Bama is not unbeatable nor is Saban, but they won't beat themselves either and you have to account for that if you want to win.
 
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Start making the game competitive and recruits will take notice. It will take care of itself.

They are hands down the class of the West. We need to focus on being the class of the East and forcing playing them twice a year. Recruits will want to be a part of it. SEC will love it. And the media will love it.

It is one of the longest and most storied rivalrys in college football. It just isn't very competitive in recent years. Start winning the East regularly and wonderful things will happen.
 
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Saban is unmatched as a college coach. Urban Meyer is a close second. Then there is everyone else. Those two teams are physically superior to everyone else. It's clear what type of team we need to beat them. Nothing short of matching up to their size & strength will beat them. No scheme, no tricks. Just big-boy football.
 
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We just need to recruit better. This is the results to get when your 1st in recruiting for 6 straight years or whatever it is
 
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The counterthought to this-

Alabama will never have it as good as they have it right now. Never. Saban is an anomaly. His work ethic and their money made for a deadly combination. That's great. And right now it's made them the kings. There's no getting around that fact. But this era is as good as it's ever going to get for Alabama. Once Saban retires, they will return to the ranks. They will hire some good coaches, some okay coaches, and they will have ups and downs and Duboses and all the rest. They will forever be looking back to this period as their best period. But they will not surpass it. They will never surpass it. A coach will win 11 games and they will think to themselves "that's alright but Saban would have done better." A coach will get to the SECCG, and lose, and they will say "Saban would have won that game." They will now know what their best effort truly is, and always know their best days are behind them. His ghost will haunt them for the rest of their lives. It will take a generation to banish the specter of that feeling. And even then -- even then -- they will spend the rest of their days trapped in the faded glory of bygone times.

... yeah, okay, it doesn't really make me feel better either, but I thought I'd try. *shrug*
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
I hate to say it, but we are not going to be able to beat Bama with any frequency as long as Saban is there. He's the best coach in the country hands down. Meyer isn't a close second. They recruit who they want and the rest of the country gets their seconds. Don't get this confused, I'm not saying we won't beat them. I'm saying that it's going to be a rare occasion. I would compare it to Maryville vs Alcoa. every 3 or 4 years Alcoa wins. Roast away.
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Ridiculous. Freeze is 2-1 vs Saban
 
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Dustin4Vols said:
We just need to recruit better. is
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That's sort of the problem. Everybody that matters in the sec is recruiting at a top 10-15 level. Bama does it #1 level every year.

It's the depth that kills. There are 5-6 teams that can prolly match 1's with them. there aren't any that go 2 & 3 deep like they do.
 
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Some unnamed coach in Knoxville could take a cue from the way their offense has shifted in the past few seasons.

Say what you will about Saban, he lets his offensive coordinators play to the strengths of the players instead of trying to jam them into some infallible system.

A few years ago, I never would have thought I would see an Alabama team running the spread the way they did with Hurts yesterday.
 
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