The Trump celebration thread

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One wonders how many of the GOPers in the board would have opted for Trump as their party's leader at this point if they'd know 24 months ago that a year or so into Trump's term:

He was going to bomb Iran

Threaten to take Greenland

Threaten to annex Canada

Gas at 4.50 or higher

Inflation going up

Food prices up

Defnse budget up

Kidnap the leader of Venezuela

Looking like he wants to invade Cuba

Send up 1.8 billion slush fund for political allies

Accepts a multi.billion jet from Qatar

Knocks down the East room

Wants to build an arch

Profiting from his office more than any POTUS in history
 
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lawgator1 said:
One wonders how many of the GOPers in the board would have opted for Trump as their party's leader at this point if they'd know 24 months ago that…
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Wonder how many Dems would have supported Kamala as their nominee if they’d known she was gonna lose to Trump?

Run better candidates. You will have a better chance to win. 👍🏽
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Wonder how many Dems would have supported Kamala as their nominee if they’d known she was gonna lose to Trump?

Run better candidates. You will have a better chance to win. 👍🏽
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She's was horrible. Unelectable.

That doesn’t make Trump a good President.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
No, it does not. But it did make him President.
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I think you miss the essence of my question, which is whether GOPers, had they known where things currently stand, wished they had run someone else? Given that Harris was so beatable, certainly Haley, or Rubio even, could have beaten her. And you would not have to defend so much nonsense.

(Disclaimer: I still can't make up my mind about the Iran War. I do think the Trump team has mismanaged this in a number of respects. But in the end it may turn out to have been worth it. I remain willing to hear what the real prospects were for them to achieve a nuke. So far, its just a lot of rhetorical claims of "Trust us, they were weeks away." Sorry, but this is not an administration easily trusted on anything. At least not yet).
 
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lawgator1 said:
One wonders how many of the GOPers in the board would have opted for Trump as their party's leader at this point if they'd know 24 months ago that a year or so into Trump's term:

He was going to bomb Iran

Threaten to take Greenland

Threaten to annex Canada

Gas at 4.50 or higher

Inflation going up

Food prices up

Defnse budget up

Kidnap the leader of Venezuela

Looking like he wants to invade Cuba

Send up 1.8 billion slush fund for political allies

Accepts a multi.billion jet from Qatar

Knocks down the East room

Wants to build an arch

Profiting from his office more than any POTUS in history
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Hindsight is 20/20. We needed focus on domestic at home and fair trade and such, which is what he campaigned on. But, there was no way of knowing he'd be a full 180 from his first term and appear to be breaking up mentally. Even for him. However, as the crow flies, I still stand by my vote as being postive against the alternative that would have resulted in a much bigger disaster. There is no circumstance surrounding Trump, regardless of my personal feelings of him shifting some, that would have caused me to entertain voting for Cackles. The lesser of two evils is not good today as it happens, but the alternative was a straight up no way in hell.

IF the DNC had primaried, AND IF the DNC had been able to provide anyone hte least bit competent and IF there was any way of predicting we'd have started bomding Iran....I'd have oted differently.

Having aid all that...factually....your cost of living points were still worse under Biden than currently under Trump even after spikes. Yeah, gas is over $4, but he had it down to almost $2 before the bombing. Atlesat in my area. Eggs are still $1.60 here regardless. Not $6. I'm not thrilled about $170-$200 a week groceries for 3 people, but it's not $300. Most of the inflation I deal with like eating out for over $100 for 4 or $85 for three is ludicrous at a run of the mill chain steak house. But, that is left over from dems and covid policy and $25/hr crap for jobs that were never intended as living wage jobs, but as part time HS and college jobs. But, since hte libs killed pipeline jobs and well paying sector jobs it's what we have. So, insuating this is all Trump is disingenious. It's a cluster f*** of a whole group of political morons that should all be lassoed and drug around.
 
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GVF said:
Hindsight is 20/20. We needed focus on domestic at home and fair trade and such, which is what he campaigned on. But, there was no way of knowing he'd be a full 180 from his first term and appear to be breaking up mentally. Even for him. However, as the crow flies, I still stand by my vote as being postive against the alternative that would have resulted in a much bigger disaster. There is no circumstance surrounding Trump, regardless of my personal feelings of him shifting some, that would have caused me to entertain voting for Cackles. The lesser of two evils is not good today as it happens, but the alternative was a straight up no way in hell.
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Would you have preferred a different GOP nominee, knowing what you know now?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Would you have preferred a different GOP nominee, knowing what you know now?
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I have always been a Rubio fan. My first choice from the get go for 2016. My hopeful choice for 2028. (I could have liked Vance maybe but he has had to be his bosses employee, and the VP rarely wins an election bid afterward). Had he not been as young and inexperieced at the time, maybe he could have handled Trump better. But, in all honesty, the GOP had few better choices at the time (Romney or Trump? lol), and the DNC absolutely none. I only see Shapiro or Fetterman as true legit choices for them and that may not ever happen. Anyone else from the DNC is a joke and a calamity, and it don't get a whole lot better going right. I would also have been serious about RFK jr as a left sided choice had they not kicked him out of HRC's way. My view on Trump is he was necessary. The people needed to see the all out corruption and ineptness of the leadership and the beaurocracy. And he was the one to do it and not be intimidated to back down and that's the exact reason they persecuted him so fervently. He made the public mockery of them all for being trash. Now he is fully imbedded as one of the same.
 
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GVF said:
I have always been a Rubio fan. My first choice from the get go for 2016. My hopeful choice for 2028. (I could have liked Vance maybe but he has had to be his bosses employee, and the VP rarely wins an election bid afterward). Had he not been as young and inexperieced at the time, maybe he could have handled Trump better. But, in all honesty, the GOP had few better choices at the time (Romney or Trump? lol), and the DNC absolutely none. I only see Shapiro or Fetterman as true legit choices for them and that may not ever happen. Anyone else from the DNC is a joke and a calamity, and it don't get a whole lot better going right. I would also have been serious about RFK jr as a left sided choice had they not kicked him out of HRC's way. My view on Trump is he was necessary. The people needed to see the all out corruption and ineptness of the leadership and the beaurocracy. And he was the one to do it and not be intimidated to back down and that's the exact reason they persecuted him so fervently. He made the public mockery of them all for being trash. Now he is fully imbedded as one of the same.
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Well, you don’t have elect someone that is going to expose EVERY systemic weakness by exploiting it on an industrial scale. Next time opt for a tough prosecutor, not a criminal.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think you miss the essence of my question, which is whether GOPers, had they known where things currently stand, wished they had run someone else?
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It seems that, in fact, I did miss that.
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Given that Harris was so beatable, certainly Haley, or Rubio even, could have beaten her.
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Yes, I would have rather voted for Rubio, (or Haley, or DeSantis, or Vance.)
I wish one of those had been my choice against Kamala, and they would have had my vote. Heck, any of those would have had my vote against Trump.
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And you would not have to defend so much nonsense.
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I don't actively defend much that Trump has done, and even less of what he says. I do often compare what he does to what his predecessor did, or what I believe the Dem opponents he defeated would have done. I understand that, generally, folks who don't care for Trump often take such critical thought/reflection as a "defense" of him, but that doesn't make it so.
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(Disclaimer: I still can't make up my mind about the Iran War. I do think the Trump team has mismanaged this in a number of respects. But in the end it may turn out to have been worth it. I remain willing to hear what the real prospects were for them to achieve a nuke. So far, its just a lot of rhetorical claims of "Trust us, they were weeks away." Sorry, but this is not an administration easily trusted on anything. At least not yet).
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I could very easily have typed this exact paragraph. If anything was different, it would have just been me adding a few more details. But this if this isn't exactly spot on with my position, it is sitting right next to mine.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Well, you don’t have elect someone that is going to expose EVERY systemic weakness by exploiting it on an industrial scale. Next time opt for a tough prosecutor, not a criminal.
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You don't seem to have related my response to his question very well. You just nitpicked one sentence out of context from the middle of a paragraph.
 
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GVF said:
You don't seem to have related my response to his question very well. You just nitpicked one sentence out of context from the middle of a paragraph.
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I said what I said and I don’t recognize any falsehoods in there.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
It seems that, in fact, I did miss that.

Yes, I would have rather voted for Rubio, (or Haley, or DeSantis, or Vance.)
I wish one of those had been my choice against Kamala, and they would have had my vote. Heck, any of those would have had my vote against Trump.

I don't actively defend much that Trump has done, and even less of what he says. I do often compare what he does to what his predecessor did, or what I believe the Dem opponents he defeated would have done. I understand that, generally, folks who don't care for Trump often take such critical thought/reflection as a "defense" of him, but that doesn't make it so.

I could very easily have typed this exact paragraph. If anything was different, it would have just been me adding a few more details. But this if this isn't exactly spot on with my position, it is sitting right next to mine.
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Agree on deSantis as well. He was coming on strong and had a few missteps. But, taken as a whole would have garnered my vote if not Rubio. Vance was stronger hen than possibly now but he was quite young for 2020. He does seem to try and keep his distance best he can to pursue 2028, but being VP for anyone is always a killer for the most part. I was never against Gabbard. She was a lefty I could have voted for easily. She took some heavy hits from HRC to get her out of the way. I'll never agree with 100% of a candidate, but taken as whole she was legit IMO. I lost interest in entertaining anyone from the DNC after HRC tanked her. If anything she atleast rocked that white suit like butter on toast.
 
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GVF said:
I have always been a Rubio fan. My first choice from the get go for 2016. My hopeful choice for 2028. (I could have liked Vance maybe but he has had to be his bosses employee, and the VP rarely wins an election bid afterward). Had he not been as young and inexperieced at the time, maybe he could have handled Trump better. But, in all honesty, the GOP had few better choices at the time (Romney or Trump? lol), and the DNC absolutely none. I only see Shapiro or Fetterman as true legit choices for them and that may not ever happen. Anyone else from the DNC is a joke and a calamity, and it don't get a whole lot better going right. I would also have been serious about RFK jr as a left sided choice had they not kicked him out of HRC's way. My view on Trump is he was necessary. The people needed to see the all out corruption and ineptness of the leadership and the beaurocracy. And he was the one to do it and not be intimidated to back down and that's the exact reason they persecuted him so fervently. He made the public mockery of them all for being trash. Now he is fully imbedded as one of the same.
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Rubio? Just what we need is another Adelson puppet
 
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utvolpj said:
Rubio? Just what we need is another Adelson puppet
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Yeah, I'm not on board with all that with him. He does what he has to right now to keep his job, but not as drastic as Vance has to. Rubio has a very strong up side to him IMO. I think both given freedom w/o consequence would dump Trump rather quickly. My opinion of him elevated more with his speech at the Kirk memorial. When everyone else was what you expected to happen, he was on a different level in a different room so to speak. Once he has full separation, and he's in a position to maintain a decent amount, he will show to be strong. You will also see the tigers teeth come out, because if he primaries aginst Vance, Trump will go for his jugular without regret. Rubio will be one of the first he attacks and fires come primary time. Rubio took a good job at the state dept, but is not a full blown minion. He is surviving, and he prob hasn't forgot that 2016 primary. Rubio also impresses me as about a decent a person you have a chance of finding in DC.

Besides, he will likely be the best choice on the right as of now. And there'll be none on the left as of now to offer a choice, unless you are going for complete disaster piled onto Trumps current state mind.
 
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GVF said:
Yeah, I'm not on board with all that with him. He does what he has to right now to keep his job, but not as drastic as Vance has to. Rubio has a very strong up side to him IMO. I think both given freedom w/o consequence would dump Trump rather quickly. My opinion of him elevated more with his speech at the Kirk memorial. When everyone else was what you expected to happen, he was on a different level in a different room so to speak. Once he has full separation, and he's in a position to maintain a decent amount, he will show to be strong. You will also see the tigers teeth come out, because if he primaries aginst Vance, Trump will go for his jugular without regret. Rubio will be one of the first he attacks and fires come primary time. Rubio took a good job at the state dept, but is not a full blown minion. He is surviving, and he prob hasn't forgot that 2016 primary. Rubio also impresses me as about a decent a person you have a chance of finding in DC.

Besides, he will likely be the best choice on the right as of now. And there'll be none on the left as of now to offer a choice, unless you are going for complete disaster piled onto Trumps current state mind.
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Rubio was called that by Trump when he was completely separate.

You don't see the irony of saying he will be strong once he is able to get off his knees for Trump?

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Working in this current admin should be an immediate DQ
 
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utvolpj said:
Rubio was called that by Trump when he was completely separate.

You don't see the irony of saying he will be strong once he is able to get over his knees for Trump?

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Disagree. Don't fault someone for taking a good job. If that's the measure of a good candidate, no one employed by the last 3-4 admins should qualify. Fact is at the end of the day, Rubio is now and will be one of the best to primary GOP coming up, if he does so. He can't say so till it's time or he loses his job.
 
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GVF said:
Disagree. Don't fault someone for taking a good job. If that's the measure of a good candidate, no one employed by the last 3-4 admins should qualify. Fact is at the end of the day, Rubio is now and will be one of the best to primary GOP coming up, if he does so. He can't say so till it's time or he loses his job.
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If he had no spine them you can't call him strong. His alliance should be to this country and not Trump. Should have more respect for himself
 
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utvolpj said:
If he had no spine them you can't call him strong. His alliance should be to this country and not Trump. Should have more respect for himself
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Sorry. Got no issue with him as a candidate. Nor do I think accepting a job DQ's you. And i think he would be as much for this country as any horse in the stable. That's why he will be first man fired when everyone declares for the primary. Trumps about a year early on being a lame duck. I'm surprised some haven't already rolled hte dice and resigned. Maybe by this next year??

Heck, he even said he'd take a look if someone was to challenge Boebart, and she's a fool and was one of his biggest torch bearers at one time. He has no loyalty.

My point is the list of probable GOP to primary, he will be top two. And I happen to like him, and Gabbard in there somewhere. And on the flip side I'd accept Shapiro and like Fetterman. But, not sure either will get the chance.

If DeSantis tries a comeback and don't swallow his tongue again, he'll have a good shot.

Time for lunch.....
 
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GVF said:
Sorry. Got no issue with him as a candidate. Nor do I think accepting a job DQ's you. And i think he would be as much for this country as any horse in the stable. That's why he will be first man fired when everyone declares for the primary. Trumps about a year early on being a lame duck. I'm surprised some haven't already rolled hte dice and resigned. Maybe by this next year??

Heck, he even said he'd take a look if someone was to challenge Boebart, and she's a fool and was one of his biggest torch bearers at one time. He has no loyalty.

My point is the list of probable GOP to primary, he will be top two. And I happen to like him, and Gabbard in there somewhere. And on the flip side I'd accept Shapiro and like Fetterman. But, not sure either will get the chance.

If DeSantis tries a comeback and don't swallow his tongue again, he'll have a good shot.

Time for lunch.....
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Which policy positions of the following of Tulsi's do you like:

No new nuclear power plants
Supporter of green new deal
Illegal all AR style rifles
100% free college
Universal healthcare
 
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