THE Top 3 Canidates

#28
#28
Mullen: Tennessee
Frost : Nebraska
Kiffin: Florida

This is a win win scenario for Tennessee

But we’ll likely end up with Miles
 
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#29
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Catbone said:
They'll be on the short list if we don't get Frost or Mullen
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Still don't see the fascination with Mullen. He has never had a season where he has had less then 3 losses, never won an SEC title. He is a good coach, but another one that has peaked
 
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Bbear44 said:
Still don't see the fascination with Mullen. He has never had a season where he has had less then 3 losses, never won an SEC title. He is a good coach, but another one that has peaked
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Peaked at #1 while coaching at Starkville Mississippi.
Playing second fiddle to Ole Miss
Playing in a top heavy SECW
He’s a true teacher of the game something Tennessee desperately needs right now
Would arguably give Tennessee the best coach
He would do very well and almost instantly get recruits
 
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JoAllan said:
Chip coached at New Hampshire in Durham with a population of 14k for 14 years. Then out to Eugene Oregon over 3,000 miles away and a totally different environment.

But somehow Chip could not fit here culturally?

Also Chip has much less baggage than most think. USC lost 30 scholarships and no bowl for 3 years.....that was bad.

Oregon lost 2 scholarships spread out over 2 years.......that was it. Chip got the show cause because of Pete. The NCAA made a new rule because of Pete and USC. Of any coach leaves a school when the school is going to receive any sanctions that coach will now receive a show cause.

The NCAA said Chip did not commit the or any violation. They also said through their investigation they could confirm Chip did not even know about the violation.

People act like the violation was a big deal; however if it were why did they only get 2 scholarships taken away......and nothing else?
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Call NCAA HQ at the Phil Knight Center and ask them.
 
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Bbear44 said:
Still don't see the fascination with Mullen. He has never had a season where he has had less then 3 losses, never won an SEC title. He is a good coach, but another one that has peaked
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I've not seen a fascination with him, but he's a solid D-1 coach. He knows the SEC, had Miss St at #1 in the country, hasn't had serious trouble with the NCAA, and has done very well at a place without UT's tradition, resources, and fan base (although I'm starting to wonder if that last one isn't a liability).
 
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Bbear44 said:
Still don't see the fascination with Mullen. He has never had a season where he has had less then 3 losses, never won an SEC title. He is a good coach, but another one that has peaked
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He has to play in the West. In the East, he would have a much easier time. Also, he would have much greater recruiting success. Mullen is a very good developer of talent. That cannot be questioned.
 
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butchna said:
Call NCAA HQ at the Phil Knight Center and ask them.
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I really don't need to call as I have done my own research. I have read just about all the information out there on this subject.

My feelings on Chip would only be my opinion; however I understand what happened.

Everyone uses recruiting services. No one from any service should pay for room and board for a recruit to come for an evaluation......hey that is wrong.; however what happened is not nearly as bad as most schools have done and received nothing for. "Money" was talked about it gained momentum and they had to investigate. Afterwards once they found there was an infraction they had to do something.

2 scholarships over 2 years 1each year.........almost nothing.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
He has to play in the West. In the East, he would have a much easier time. Also, he would have much greater recruiting success. Mullen is a very good developer of talent. That cannot be questioned.
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While I agree with you on most topics on VN I do disagree with this one somewhat.

I certainly think Mullen could do better at Tennessee than what he has at MSU; however over the past many years MSU's and UT's SOS are very similar (I have them posted on another thread). So if they are very similar Mullen wouldn't really have an easier time because of the East.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
He has to play in the West. In the East, he would have a much easier time. Also, he would have much greater recruiting success. Mullen is a very good developer of talent. That cannot be questioned.
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HIs development cannot be questioned, but his overall record of 67-44 can be. Dax Prescott carried him for a few years, without Dax, his overall record would be hovering more around the .500 mark. If TN goes with someone like Mullen, I have a feeling we will be back here again in 5 years discussing another coaching search. It can't be assumed he will have an easier time in the east either with Georgia on the rise, and depending on who Florida hires
 
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fade route said:
Good grief, do we really have to keep going with this Gruden nonsense?
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Crazy isn't it? Along the same lines, you gotta wonder about the group of fans that look at guys like Campbell, Frost, and Fuente and announce "we can do better" or "they're not seasoned enough" especially after our hires after firing Fulmer. Getting any of the aforementioned coaches, would be outstanding. I'd almost be willing to bet we won't get any of the three.
 
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BoroVFL615 said:
what would you guys think about Kevin sumlin if he is released by the Aggies?
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I like Kevin but not interested. Granted the east is easier than the west. But we already have a 8-9 win coach. We need a 10-12 win coach.
 
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On Scott Frost. I was listening to a college football show on Sirius/XM a couple of weeks ago and they had a whole half hour on Nebraska. They were talking to one of the local Nebraska football heads who said that the Nebraska job was always open to Scott Frost but Frost took the UCF job because of the fertile recruiting grounds. He said he didn't see Frost coming back to Nebraska for that reason. He said that he really didn't see Nebraska turning back into the Nebraska of old because the recruiting landscape in that area had changed since then. He believed that they could hope for winning seasons and a BIG championship every once in a while but that was about it. So I think if he doesn't take the Florida job, he would be a good candidate for UT. jmo
 
#44
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Love your list. Gruden is 1 on mine and Frost and Campbell are 4 and 5. My two and three are Fuente and Mullen.
 
#46
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Vols_14 said:
1. Jon Gruden
Pros:
-Very Successful NFL coach
-Great X's and O's
-Works with college QB's all the time
-Would have a great staff
-Would be the best Cultural fit. He knows the expectations, he knows UT football, and has a great energetic personality.
Cons:
-Very, VERY expensive
-Unproven on college level
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Everyone keeps talking about how great JG was as a head coach. Has anyone actually looked at his overall record? Here it is:

11 yrs as a head coach

Games Coached 176
Wins:95
Losses:81
Win Percentage:.540

If that is what everyone considers a "very successful" coach, Butch is doing great, so lets just keep him.

Matt Campbell has been a HC for 7 years and taken terrible football teams and won. He has turned a terrible Iowa State team into a top 15 school with 2 wins over top 5 opponents. He has proven he can take a team with less talent and beat teams with more talent. From where I sit, that's exactly what TN needs having to play Bama, UGA, FLA on a yearly basis.

But why use statistics and common sense?
 
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#47
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Mullen or Frost is the direction both Tennessee and Florida are looking in. Campbell and Brohm both have fairly expensive buyouts for their track records. Tennessee wants an offensive guy with head coaching experience and experience recruiting the region is a plus. That should bring into focus the reasons why Frost and Mullen lead the pack. The fact that both also do well developing QBs in a conference that hasn't had a ton of great QBs over the past few years also makes those two coaches very attractive. I think it will be Mullen, Frost, Brohm, or Campbell for both Florida and Tennessee. I really think stricklin will end up with Mullen and honestly I think Tennessee lands Frost. I know some worry about the Nebraska angle but it's so very hard to recruit there and be successful as a coach. JMO from what I've heard.

Gruden isn't happening, I think it's silly to discuss honestly. Kiffin never would happen, he just pissed off too many people of influence on the way out. Fuente is a good one but will cost probably more than Tennessee would want to spend when they think someone like Frost is a better option anyways. Miles would only be if they got way down the list, Les is a great coach but he's stubborn and he's struggled to develop QB.
 
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a vol n tears said:
Justin Fuente = #1
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Do know what UT would have to pay to break his contract?


If they beat Miami, they are likely on course to play for the conference title. In year two he's already got VT back at the top.
Why leave? It's a great spot.

If anybody in the ACC I'd say Dave Doreen. He's doing a good job at NCState.
 
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Roustabout said:
Do know what UT would have to pay to break his contract?


If they beat Miami, they are likely on course to play for the conference title. In year two he's already got VT back at the top.
Why leave? It's a great spot.

If anybody in the ACC I'd say Dave Doreen. He's doing a good job at NCState.
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He's having a good year but it's not like he's been that great there until this year. He was 9-23 in ACC before this year, his 5th year there. Very mediocre.

7-6 (Year before he got there)
3-9 (0-8 in ACC, first year)
8-5
7-6
7-6

We can do better
 
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Was watching replay of Iowa State vs. TCU and it showed Matt Campbell many times. Every time he looked like he had the eye of the tiger and his team played that way. Gets my vote for #1.
 
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