The Three Permanent Conference Games

Who should our 3 permanent games be against?

  • Alabama

  • Georgia

  • Florida

  • Vanderbilt

  • Kentucky

  • South Carolina

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NighthawkVol said:
No, you don’t know what other people’s motivations are. A wiser person would realize that.

Nonetheless, you still don’t understand the difference between saying what I think will happen and what I want to happen. But one misses a lot when he’s in such a rush to argue his position rather than paying attention to that of another.
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This entire thread is filled with people attacking me for saying we should play Alabama, Georgia, and Florida because of how difficult a draw that would be.

The competitive aspect of these matchups is what's driving this discussion. Those that have a loser mentality want the easiest draw possible which is why they are clamoring for Vanderbilt and Kentucky. While those that have a competitive mindset like myself want Florida and Georgia. Stop acting like that is the elephant in the room.
 
#152
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I'm focusing on the "loser" aspect of this cause I know that's the real motivation behind everyone clamoring for Kentucky and Vanderbilt. If you really didn't want to play them and were projecting what would happen then the tone of your posts should reflect that. Instead there's a glee at getting an easy draw which comes from not only your post but most everyone else hoping we don't play Georgia and Florida.
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What are you are doing is assuming others’ intentions & projecting your own. You are assuming people want Vandy & KY because they want an easy schedule while you propose the absolute most difficult schedule imaginable. You are setting-up the idea that people are opposed to your preference simply because they want easier permanent opponents and are therefore “losers.” That is simply not the case.

Personally, I would prefer Florida over Kentucky as the 3rd perm. Vandy is in-state—they are going to be one. Alabama is our biggest rival with mutual hatred—they will be one. While we may view Kentucky as a lesser rival, they view us as their biggest (with few others to spare), which almost certainly means they will be our 3rd.

That is not “desire for easiest” schedule—it’s just a simple look at the facts. I think there’s a chance we don’t have UK as the 3rd, but I find it slim.
 
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OrangeEtBlanc said:
What are you are doing is assuming others’ intentions & projecting your own. You are assuming people want Vandy & KY because they want an easy schedule while you propose the absolute most difficult schedule imaginable. You are setting-up the idea that people are opposed to your preference simply because they want easier permanent opponents and are therefore “losers.” That is simply not the case.

Personally, I would prefer Florida over Kentucky as the 3rd perm. Vandy is in-state—they are going to be one. Alabama is our biggest rival with mutual hatred—they will be one. While we may view Kentucky as a lesser rival, they view us as their biggest (with few others to spare), which almost certainly means they will be our 3rd.

That is not “desire for easiest” schedule—it’s just a simple look at the facts. I think there’s a chance we don’t have UK as the 3rd, but I find it slim.
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This is why I've limited my criticism to those who want BOTH Vanderbilt and Kentucky. Folks like you are just trying to have it both ways. You can play that game if you want. I don't care for it.

My criticism is mainly for the Vanderbilt AND Kentucky crew. They are the ones who are downright embarrassing in their shamelessness.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
This is why I've limited my criticism to those who want BOTH Vanderbilt and Kentucky. Folks like you are just trying to have it both ways. You can play that game if you want. I don't care for it.

My criticism is mainly for the Vanderbilt AND Kentucky crew. They are the ones who are downright embarrassing in their shamelessness.
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Wow. Your arrogance level is up this morning.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
This entire thread is filled with people attacking me for saying we should play Alabama, Georgia, and Florida because of how difficult a draw that would be.

The competitive aspect of these matchups is what's driving this discussion. Those that have a loser mentality want the easiest draw possible which is why they are clamoring for Vanderbilt and Kentucky. While those that have a competitive mindset like myself want Florida and Georgia. Stop acting like that is the elephant in the room.
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This entire thread is filled with people who are paying no heed to your posts. Stop playing the victim.

If your assessment of our collective "cowardice" were correct, Bama would not be the #1 choice in the poll. The list would include Mississippi State, and everyone would be voting for them. But nope: Bama is the top vote-getter of all.

So give up that lame argument.

The fact is, Tennessee's in-state rival, our ONLY in-state SEC rival, is Vandy. Teams who share a state are almost always rivals: Mich and Mich St, Florida and FSU, USCe and Clemson, Kentucky and Louisville, UNC and NC State (and Duke and Wake), Stanford and Cal, USC and UCLA, Kansas and Kansas St, Texas and A&M, UGa and Ga Tech, the list is practically endless. So yes, Vandy is one of our core rivals. Even if they suck (which, they do lol).

As for Kentucky, dunno how you don't get it. We have played the Wildcats more than any other team in the nation. More than any. More than Bama, more than Vandy, and waaaaaay more than Georgia and Florida.

Okay, so you want Florida and Georgia. Most folks on here don't agree. Suck that up, put it on your shoulders, walk around the house with it, then get on with your life. Because you're not changing anyone's mind. Most folks here probably have you on ignore already, and don't even see what you're writing.

And Go Vols!
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
What does any of that have to do with this topic?
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Motivation, there is a different feel in the stadium against certain teams that doesn’t come across on TV, and I’ve noticed that people who are putting money on the games seem the most verbal about dropping the weak opponents
Am I right? How many games do you attend in person?
 
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I thought the 3 were decided a few years back? I chose Bama UF and Candy. Tired of the Uk thing. This will be short lived in any case because, as the need for money increases, the top teams from the 4 power conferences will merge into Div1a and Div1b. Each division will split into subdivisions just like the NFL and will not play any games outside their division. The teams that are spending huge bucks on players are not going to revenue share with those who don't.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
This entire thread is filled with people attacking me for saying we should play Alabama, Georgia, and Florida because of how difficult a draw that would be.

The competitive aspect of these matchups is what's driving this discussion. Those that have a loser mentality want the easiest draw possible which is why they are clamoring for Vanderbilt and Kentucky. While those that have a competitive mindset like myself want Florida and Georgia. Stop acting like that is the elephant in the room.
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You aren't being attacked for your opinion, you are being made fun of because you came back to support it with childish "you're a loser" type comments when you are devoid of any actual logic and common sense
 
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1. Alabama- Third Saturday in October, national game that has a lot of viewers.

2. Florida- maybe our most intense rivalry game since early 1990’s, same as bama with national audience and lots of viewers.

3. Vandy - hardest choice, gives us a chance to play in Nashville (like another home game) every other year which is important due to recruiting and the influx of talent in that area
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
This entire thread is filled with people who are paying no heed to your posts. Stop playing the victim.

If your assessment of our collective "cowardice" were correct, Bama would not be the #1 choice in the poll. The list would include Mississippi State, and everyone would be voting for them. But nope: Bama is the top vote-getter of all.

So give up that lame argument.
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Bama's not the same Bama as before under Saban. I remember there being threads every year in the leadup to the Bama game before 2022 where a bunch of posters were complaining about why Bama was our cross conference permanent opponent and wanting them to be replaced with an easier opponent. So save me with this we're not being weak.

We just have 3 permanent spots to fill up this time so folks know we can't realistically get 3 cupcakes so they are bargaining for 2 cupcakes instead.
 
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Wireless1 said:
Motivation, there is a different feel in the stadium against certain teams that doesn’t come across on TV, and I’ve noticed that people who are putting money on the games seem the most verbal about dropping the weak opponents
Am I right? How many games do you attend in person?
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The most amazing atmosphere I ever saw at Neyland (outside of Bama 2022) was Oklahoma in 2015. And lots of other people have cosigned that game. So save me with the lie that Vanderbilt or Kentucky arise more intensity from a crowd at Neyland than Florida or Georgia. That's a lie and you know it.

What makes the gameday atmosphere insane isn't the number of times you've played an opponent historically but rather than quality of the opponent and what's on the line for Tennessee.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You aren't being attacked for your opinion, you are being made fun of because you came back to support it with childish "you're a loser" type comments when you are devoid of any actual logic and common sense
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But that's exactly why I was attacked. Cause I went against the grain of wanting cupcake matchups.
 
#166
#166
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
But that's exactly why I was attacked. Cause I went against the grain of wanting cupcake matchups.
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Only speaking for myself, but from what I see in this thread, the posters are stating they want our three traditional rivals, and that's likely who we will get.

Now you disagree and want "newer rivals" and that's fine and dandy too. But I don't "want" UK and Vandy because they are easy, but because of the long tradition and hatred we have for each other. Tradition didn't start in the 2000s when you first started going to games. UK and VU games were wars before the 1990s with plenty of hatred on both sides to go around.

But again you fail to understand that the SEC has asked each program to list their #1 rival to try and make those future yearly matchups and all three of those schools (Bama, UK and Vandy) listed us as #1 and we listed them as our top 3. So it assuredly will be likely that will happen. Now in the instance of "fairness", there is a small chance they have Florida or South Carolina instead of UK, but I bet that doesn't happen.

But it has nothing to do with anyone being "scared" of anyone. I hope that helps!
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
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This is almost perfect. I would have Auburn play Miss State and have Oklahoma play TAMU. I think those four Big 12 schools + Arkansas should play each other in some combination. JMO
 
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zjcvols said:
This is almost perfect. I would have Auburn play Miss State and have Oklahoma play TAMU. I think those four Big 12 schools + Arkansas should play each other in some combination. JMO
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Makes one wonder if the SEC offices are a bit concerned about making the former B12 teams a bit too much of a 'pod' unto themselves, which might have the effect of retarding their SEC socialization to some extent.

Just another thing to ponder, heh.
 
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#169
I think it will look like:
1) Alabama because they are our #1 rival TSIO so national eyes
2) Vandy because they are in-state rivals as well as long time rivals
3) Kentucky because we will be their #1
The good news, we’ll get to see Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU, Florida and UGa every other year. Bad news is we’ll also see Arkansas, Miss St, and Mizzou ever other year too… and we’ll be losing a home game every year (on average)
 
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Bama, Kentucky, and Florida. I just really hate Florida and we’ve got to grab some more wins and even out that series.
 
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