The Third Debate Thread

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#503
GAVol said:
What's stupid? It's a harmless colloquial phrase. There's absolutely no bad connotation unless you're searching for one.
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Okay, I'll play.

Considering his dire need for ethnic constituency in order to win, it's probably not a smart plan to butcher a colloquial phrase in both use and pronounciation. Nothing Latinos hate more than a gringo do8ng that.

There's your daily dose of amateur campaign strategy. Peace.
 
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#509
#509
GAVol said:
Actually, I think it's the other way around. The vast majority are elected.
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that is correct

The secretary of state is a state level position in 47 of the 50 states. The position does not exist in Alaska, Hawaii and Utah. In Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and Virginia, the office is called the secretary of the commonwealth and differs only in name. The voters directly elect the secretary of state in 35 states. In the other 12, the secretary is appointed by either the governor or the state legislature.
The duties of the position are generally administrative in nature, and no two states have identical responsibilities delegated to the secretary of state. Many are tasked with keeping state records, from registering businesses to recording the official acts of the governor. The officeholder also often serves as the chief election official in their state, administering state elections and maintaining official election results. The commissioning and regulation of notaries public, keeping of the official state seal and certification of official documents all typically fall under the purview of the secretary of state.
 
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GAVol said:
Actually, I think it's the other way around. The vast majority are elected.
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Even if that is true, and I am too lazy to look it up this late, it would only stand to reason that if the governor was Republican, then more than likely the Secretary of State would be as well.
 
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#511
Boston Vol said:
Lol not even close. 35 states elect the Secretary of State by popular vote. In only 9 states does the governor appoint the SoS. So no that's not "most."
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Wouldn't you agree that more than likely the Secretary of State is going to be a part of the same party as the governor? For example, Tennessee is not electing a Republican governor and Democrat Secretary of State. I would love to see a study of how many of those states where the Secretary of State is elected that the governor and secretary state aren't with the same party. I bet it is a very small percentage, if any.
 
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#515
Anyone notice how Hillary thought it was funny that gay people are pushed off buildings by radical Muslims?
 
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bnhunt said:
Wouldn't you agree that more than likely the Secretary of State is going to be a part of the same party as the governor? For example, Tennessee is not electing a Republican governor and Democrat Secretary of State.
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Not necessarily. By your fuzzy math and your logic, there would be 62 Republican Senators. Senators are about an even split, so if 31 Governors are Republicans, then 62 Senators would be Republicans.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Not necessarily. By your fuzzy math and your logic, there would be 62 Republican Senators. Senators are about an even split, so if 31 Governors are Republicans, then 62 Senators would be Republicans.
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Nope, completely different. The logic and thought process people use when voting for state offices vs. national offices is quite different.
 
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bnhunt said:
Even if that is true, and I am too lazy to look it up this late, it would only stand to reason that if the governor was Republican, then more than likely the Secretary of State would be as well.
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In 2016, eight secretaries of state will be chosen directly by voters. In virtually all of these races, the incumbent party is expected to face a competitive primary and/or a competitive general election contest.
Currently, the GOP holds 28 secretary of state offices, and the Democrats hold 22. (That includes the handful of states where the lieutenant governor handles the role of secretary of state.)
 
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VolnJC said:
In 2016, eight secretaries of state will be chosen directly by voters. In virtually all of these races, the incumbent party is expected to face a competitive primary and/or a competitive general election contest.
Currently, the GOP holds 28 secretary of state offices, and the Democrats hold 22. (That includes the handful of states where the lieutenant governor handles the role of secretary of state.)
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So there are 31 Republican governors and 28 Republican Secretaries of State. I was 3 off, but it essentially follows the formula I expected.
 
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bnhunt said:
So there are 31 Republican governors and 28 Republican Secretaries of State. I was 3 off, but it essentially follows the formula I expected.
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I feel better knowing that Republican Secretaries of State will be in every precinct and will go through every voting machine in 28 states. They will probably be the states that are heavily Republican anyway. It is the battleground states that I worry about.
 
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