The Supreme Court of the United States Thread

[clarksvol00]

You know it takes time to do things the right way, but I guess the need for an immediate win with his base was more important with all the illegals voting and the southern border invasion.

Most of the lawyers involved probably knew it wasn't handled properly and it would get struck down, but this gives them a chance to take on immigration and rant about the judiciary at the same time.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Apparently every single district court ruled against the administration? Did I read that correctly? I had no idea. I assumed this case would go Trump’s way because the argument that he couldn’t rescind an EO is just dumb. All the administration to do is check all the boxes for legally rescinding an EO.

How do you not do that on one of your signature campaign promises and still manage to go 0-fer against the federal judiciary when appointing 300 some judges or whatever is your signature achievement?

But hey, if we Just give him 4 more years to try again, I bet he will get it right.

I agree with you and Carlos on this one, it's not that Trump wasn't correct on their stance on this issue, it's that they didn't go thru the actual process to get it rescinded. More sloppy administrative work than anything else

 

[LouderVol]

Not sure where to put this. Georgians will vote on a new state amendment that would allow citizens to sue the government for laws they believe are unconstitutional, both Georgia's and the US. No damages or time or punishment. Just yes/no

Wrong link.

Right link Georgia General Assembly approves sovereign immunity resolution

 

[n_huffhines]

3 cheers!

 

[MontyPython]

After the high court’s 5-4 ruling, Trump tweeted that what he called “horrible & politically charged” decisions were “shotgun blasts” into Republicans’ and conservatives’ faces. “We need more Justices or we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else. Vote Trump 2020!” he wrote.

LMAO. His own appointee voted against him on LGBTQ. So, once again, he's just talking out of his butt.

 

[LouderVol]

After the high court’s 5-4 ruling, Trump tweeted that what he called “horrible & politically charged” decisions were “shotgun blasts” into Republicans’ and conservatives’ faces. “We need more Justices or we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else. Vote Trump 2020!” he wrote.

LMAO. His own appointee voted against him on LGBTQ. So, once again, he's just talking out of his butt.

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And it just flips the script many have made on Trump appointing people being a bad thing. Or that it was going to lead to him being named king or whatever other foolishness CNN told you.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Earlier today, President Donald Trump tweeted, "Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn't like me?" after spending all morning railing against recent decisions.

(*If President Trump's tweet was a serious question*) ... then this is yet another example of how Trump makes everything about himself. Trump is incredibly egocentric. Even when it comes to apolitical professionals, such as Supreme Court Justices, Trump will view every decision his Supreme Court nominees ever make - not as their professional legal rendering - but rather a show of personal loyalty or disloyalty directly to him. That's Trump in a nutshell. In his warped psyche, everything revolves around him. If Neil Gorsuch renders a decision which he doesn't like, that doesn't mean that Justice Gorsuch was just doing his job to the best of his ability. No, sir. It means that Justice Gorsuch was being disloyal to Trump. That is how Trump's egotistical thinking works and it's pathetic.

 

[MontyPython]

Earlier today, President Donald Trump tweeted, "Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn't like me?" after spending all morning railing against recent decisions.

(*If President Trump's tweet was a serious question*) ... then this is yet another example of how Trump makes everything about himself. Trump is incredibly egocentric. Even when it comes to apolitical professionals, such as Supreme Court Justices, Trump will view every decision his Supreme Court nominees ever make - not as their professional legal rendering - but rather a show of personal loyalty or disloyalty directly to him. That's Trump in a nutshell. In his warped psyche, everything revolves around him. If Neil Gorsuch renders a decision which he doesn't like, that doesn't mean that Justice Gorsuch was just doing his job to the best of his ability. No, sir. It means that Justice Gorsuch was being disloyal to Trump. That is how Trump's egotistical thinking works and it's pathetic.

Everything that Trump does needs to be considered within the prism of the following: Everything that Trump does... is for the benefit of Trump. The end.

This will be the legacy of the 1 termer.

 

[zeppelin128]

Earlier today, President Donald Trump tweeted, "Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn't like me?" after spending all morning railing against recent decisions.

(*If President Trump's tweet was a serious question*) ... then this is yet another example of how Trump makes everything about himself. Trump is incredibly egocentric. Even when it comes to apolitical professionals, such as Supreme Court Justices, Trump will view every decision his Supreme Court nominees ever make - not as their professional legal rendering - but rather a show of personal loyalty or disloyalty directly to him. That's Trump in a nutshell. In his warped psyche, everything revolves around him. If Neil Gorsuch renders a decision which he doesn't like, that doesn't mean that Justice Gorsuch was just doing his job to the best of his ability. No, sir. It means that Justice Gorsuch was being disloyal to Trump. That is how Trump's egotistical thinking works and it's pathetic.

Well said. Everything, absolutely everything in Trump's warped mind, is about loyalty. He's a vapid narcissist.

 

[MontyPython]

'We won': DACA recipients overwhelmed by surprise Supreme Court victory over Trump

Humanity 1, Trump 0.

Thank you SCOTUS.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

'We won': DACA recipients overwhelmed by surprise Supreme Court victory over Trump

Humanity 1, Trump 0.

Thank you SCOTUS.

Not so fast. The Trump Administration has the right to do away with it they just apparently didn't write there reasons properly.

This will be rewritten and will be submitted again where it will likely be agreed on by the SCOTUS.

 

[MontyPython]

Not so fast. The Trump Administration has the right to do away with it they just apparently didn't write there reasons properly.

This will be rewritten and will be submitted again where it will likely be agreed on by the SCOTUS.

 

[RockyTop85]

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He’s correct. That’s what the ruling essentially said. They violated the administrative procedures act.

Thing is the Dreamers can probably stall until November and if Biden wins the case likely becomes moot when he rescinds the executive order.

Which probably became the point, somewhere along the way. The immigration issue made Trump way too much money in 2016 and 2018 to actually do anything that would fix it.

 

[BowlBrother85]

He’s correct. That’s what the ruling essentially said. They violated the administrative procedures act.

Thing is the Dreamers can probably stall until November and if Biden wins the case likely becomes moot when he rescinds the executive order.

Which probably became the point, somewhere along the way. The immigration issue made Trump way too much money in 2016 and 2018 to actually do anything that would fix it.

Immigration was a core Trump issue but DACA itself wasn't a target of Trumps during the campaign. Most everyone agrees that dreamers should not be deported. These are people who were brought into the country as minors, and have had to fulfill several requirements to qualify, including:

1) Prove they were younger than 18 years old on the date of their entry into the United States.
2) Have proof of residence in the United States for at least four consecutive years since their date of arrival.
3) If it is a male, they must have applied for Selective Service.
4) Be between the ages of 12 and 35 at the time of the bills enactment.
5) Have graduated from an American high school, obtained a GED, or been admitted to an institution of higher education.
6) No criminal record of any sort, including juvenile offenses.

...and even then, there is a 6 year conditional period. It should also be noted that this bill was introduced as part of bi-partisan legislation by Senators Dick Durbin (D) and Orrin Hatch (R). It just hasn't ever passed both houses of Congress. Having said all of this, there is not one person in Congress on record who says that these people should be deported.... Trump can kiss Arizona goodbye in November if he even tries it. McSally is already charred toast.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Republican Senator Tom Cotton challenges John Roberts to resign and run for office if he wants to get into politics as criticism of chief justice piles up after Supreme Court's DACA decision

Arkansas Republican Sen. Tom Cotton tore into Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, casing his new decision on DACA as so political that Roberts should resign and run for office.

The sarcastic blast from the Trump ally and possible future presidential candidate Thursday came as other conservatives piled on the George W. Bush appointee who authored the 5-4 opinion knocking down the Trump administration's attempt to end DACA.

'John Roberts again postures as a Solomon who will save our institutions from political controversy and accountability,' Cotton said in a statement, the Federalist reported.

'If the Chief Justice believes his political judgment is so exquisite, I invite him to resign, travel to Iowa, and get elected,' he continued. 'I suspect voters will find his strange views no more compelling than do the principled justices on the Court.'

Republican Senator Tom Cotton says John Roberts to run for office if he wants to get into politics | Daily Mail Online

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Republican Senator Tom Cotton challenges John Roberts to resign and run for office if he wants to get into politics as criticism of chief justice piles up after Supreme Court's DACA decision

Arkansas Republican Sen. Tom Cotton tore into Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, casing his new decision on DACA as so political that Roberts should resign and run for office.

The sarcastic blast from the Trump ally and possible future presidential candidate Thursday came as other conservatives piled on the George W. Bush appointee who authored the 5-4 opinion knocking down the Trump administration's attempt to end DACA.

'John Roberts again postures as a Solomon who will save our institutions from political controversy and accountability,' Cotton said in a statement, the Federalist reported.

'If the Chief Justice believes his political judgment is so exquisite, I invite him to resign, travel to Iowa, and get elected,' he continued. 'I suspect voters will find his strange views no more compelling than do the principled justices on the Court.'

Republican Senator Tom Cotton says John Roberts to run for office if he wants to get into politics | Daily Mail Online

Tom Cotton is going to make a great President after Trump in 2025!

 

[hog88]

Republican Senator Tom Cotton challenges John Roberts to resign and run for office if he wants to get into politics as criticism of chief justice piles up after Supreme Court's DACA decision

Arkansas Republican Sen. Tom Cotton tore into Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, casing his new decision on DACA as so political that Roberts should resign and run for office.

The sarcastic blast from the Trump ally and possible future presidential candidate Thursday came as other conservatives piled on the George W. Bush appointee who authored the 5-4 opinion knocking down the Trump administration's attempt to end DACA.

'John Roberts again postures as a Solomon who will save our institutions from political controversy and accountability,' Cotton said in a statement, the Federalist reported.

'If the Chief Justice believes his political judgment is so exquisite, I invite him to resign, travel to Iowa, and get elected,' he continued. 'I suspect voters will find his strange views no more compelling than do the principled justices on the Court.'

Republican Senator Tom Cotton says John Roberts to run for office if he wants to get into politics | Daily Mail Online

Cotton is right.

 

[Wafflestomper]

Gay brains structured like those of the opposite sex
MRI and PET scan noted differences.

If it's a physical issue outside of their control then wouldn't discriminating against them be similar to discriminating against someone for being black, female, etc?

If it's classified as a mental disorder then they may become eligible for protection under the ADA. We'd have to consult another poster since I'm among the 2% of people on here who isn't a lawyer.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Supreme Court gives go-ahead to Donald Trump's administration's 'expedited' deportation for 'meritless' asylum seekers

The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the Trump administration can deport some people seeking asylum without allowing them to make their case to a federal judge.

The high court's 7-2 ruling applies to people who are picked up at or near the border and who fail their initial asylum screenings, making them eligible for quick deportation, or expedited removal.

Supreme Court gives go-ahead to 'expedited' deportation for 'meritless' asylum seekers | Daily Mail Online

 

[NorthDallas40]

Supreme Court gives go-ahead to Donald Trump's administration's 'expedited' deportation for 'meritless' asylum seekers

The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the Trump administration can deport some people seeking asylum without allowing them to make their case to a federal judge.

The high court's 7-2 ruling applies to people who are picked up at or near the border and who fail their initial asylum screenings, making them eligible for quick deportation, or expedited removal.

Supreme Court gives go-ahead to 'expedited' deportation for 'meritless' asylum seekers | Daily Mail Online

Good

 

[Mick]

Good

Great. We agree and nobody is here to see it.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

High court gives Trump power to fire consumer bureau chief

The justices ruled that the president has unfettered discretion to fire the head of the CFPB but rejected arguments that the bureau should be shut down.

The Supreme Court on Monday handed President Donald Trump greater authority over the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, ruling that a legal provision restricting the president’s ability to fire the director is unconstitutional.

The decision could have significant implications for the future of the similarly structured Federal Housing Finance Agency, the overseer of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Like the head of the CFPB, the FHFA director is appointed to a five-year term and can only be removed for cause.

From the day it opened its doors nine years ago, the CFPB — the brainchild of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), then a law professor at Harvard — was polarizing, with Democrats casting it as a long-overdue cop on the beat for consumers after the 2008 financial crisis and Republicans slamming the agency as an example of regulatory overreach.

High court gives Trump power to fire consumer bureau chief

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Supreme Court lifts ban on state aid to Religious schools as it rules a tax credit for Montana private education donors has to apply to Church Achools too

The Supreme Court on Tuesday made it easier for religious schools to obtain public funds, upholding a Montana scholarship program that allows state tax credits for private schooling.

The court's 5-4 ruling, with conservatives in the majority, came in a dispute over a Montana scholarship program for private K-12 education that also makes donors eligible for up to $150 in state tax credits.

The scholarships can be used at both secular and religious schools, but almost all the recipients attend religious schools.

US Supreme Court lifts ban on state aid to religious schools | Daily Mail Online

 

[newarkvol]

If children were brought into the world by an act of pure reason alone, would the human race continue to exist? Would not a man rather have so much sympathy with the coming generation as to spare it the burden of existence, or at any rate not take it upon himself to impose that burden upon it in cold blood?

 

[LouderVol]

If children were brought into the world by an act of pure reason alone, would the human race continue to exist? Would not a man rather have so much sympathy with the coming generation as to spare it the burden of existence, or at any rate not take it upon himself to impose that burden upon it in cold blood?

That escalated quickly.