the state of college football today

[sabster74]

Betweeen the B_S (no, that's not a typo) and teams jumping from conference to conference, I'm fed up with college football. If it weren't for my undying loyalty to Tennessee, I wouldn't watch at all.

What happened to the good ol' days where the National Champion could come from any bowl? It used to be up to the polls to decide; now we have computers, opponents' strength of schedule, opponents' opponents' strength of schedule, etc. You have to have a degree in rocket science from MIT to figure it out.

The BCS is a joke and, in a way, I'm glad all of this happened just to show the NCAA and Roy Kramer what a farce this whole thing is. I'm glad he's not the SEC Commissioner anymore.

I bet the General's rolling in his grave right now...

 

[DrRosenRosen]

I think the 2 correct teams are playing. USC didn't have the strength of schedule the other 2 teams had. They aren't to blame but that's how it shook out this year. The real problem here are the human polls and how questionable those are. Looking at all the numbers and crunching them shows us LSU and OU are the top 2 teams. To have USC top in both polls is great for tracking in-seasosn progress, but not a proper ranking of the season as a whole. The BCS was created to eliminate this sort of personal opinion and mathematically figure it out.

 

[Freak]

My question is does anyone actually oversee or audit the validity of these polls that make up the BCS?

 

[ncvol]

I would have to agree with the good doctor. All you hear is yap yap yap from the press. The only reason why is because these are the people who have never liked the BCS and in a way I feel they voted USC to the top because they knew LSU and OK would come out on top in the BCS and they wanted to create this controversy. Again, on any given Saturday, day in and day out, no one out there can look me in the face and say that Oklahoma is still not the best team in the land, PERIOD. USC and the rest of the Wacky Packy-Left Coast Confrence had better learn from this and start scheduling better non-confrence games or look to stregthen the confrence members. I just wonder what is going to happen when Oklahoma spanks LSU and Michigan whips USC? Will Michigan have a right to the championship? God forbid.

 

[GAVol]

Right on NCVol. It blows my mind that people are willing to forsake the BCS rankings especially for the AP poll which is voted on by a bunch of yahoo sportswriters who may or may not know anything about evaluating football. First everybody complains about the polls which are completely subjective. Now people are complaining about the BCS which is mostly objective.

In the absence of a playoff, this is as good as it's going to get.

 

[VOLifornia]

The only caveat I have to add is that i'm totally against a team playing for the national championship that didn't win it's conference.

Yes..Yes ..Yes I know there are conferences that don't have championships. This is where the change needs to come in my opinion. Who's to say that USC wouldn't have lost to another PAC 10 opponent (none that are worth their weight in horse feathers) come to mind if they played a championship game or even better, what -if the highly reputed BIG 11 had Michigan play Iowa or Purdue who are semi-credible at the moment for a championship.

Then there's the other side of the coin that states why have split conferences..Hell let all 12 teams in the SEC go on and winner take all like the PAC10 and BIG 11.

It's usually a conference championship that plays spoiler to a national contender. Shall I bring up LSU vs UT in 2001. Hell we were primed for the national championship and *WHAMOO*

Well enough babbling here.

 

[DrRosenRosen]

Imagine for a second that OU, USC, and LSU all lost the last game of the season. Do you really think the only 1 loss team in the country (OU) shouldn't be allowed to play for the championship?

Forget if you won your conference. We created the BCS to equally weigh an entire season of games and not penalize you more because you lost the last game rather than the first. AP and Coaches favor too heavily when a team lost and preaseason opinion which really means jack. The BCS is a much fairer way to rank teams over a bunch of yahoo's opinions of what they've heard on ESPN.

 

[Derek24650]

There is one sensible solution to all of this: "Playoffs" Whether it's taking the winners of the BCS bowls and having a 2-round showdown, or using the BCS to determine the top 16, and having a 4-round playoff, something needs to be done. However, this word creates controversy on both ends, and I can tell you the motivation of both viewpoints.

I can guarantee you that 90% of those who are against playoffs are lovers of either midwest or pacific teams. They know how weak their conferences are, hence the design of the BCS: Giving a team in a weak conference the chance to run the tables and take a shot at the big game, in hopes their opponent will be one of the same nature. Why do you think that teams who think they have a shot at this don't schedule tough non-conference opponents? They know that conferences like SEC and now the ACC will thrive in a playoff environment, and this to me, is proof that there is an institutional bias.

Just about all other college sports have playoffs, get one for football!!!

 

[GAVol]

It has absolutely nothing to do with competition and crowning the rightful champion. If that were the case football would do just like baseball and basketball. But other college sports never had a cash cow like the current college Bowl system. We may eventually see some sort of playoff, but only after the NCAA figures out a way to do it without alienating the bowl games. There's just too much money involved flowing in both directions.

 

[Freak]

I have to agree with Volifornia, I don't think OU should be in the NC game after losing their conference championship. Either all conferences should have a championship game or none should. Even if I could somehow live with the fact that OU lost their conference title game, I cannot live with the fact that they got blown out by 28 points and still get to play in the NC. No way, no how should that be the case.