The shut down thread

[05_never_again]

Because it's sometimes included in highly-publicized rants where the speaker suggests Spanish speakers shouldn't even be in this country. And/or that people speaking Spanish are probably illegal aliens.

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Even in instances where it is not, simply suggesting that immigrants to the country should speak/learn English is seen as "insensitive" or even racist by a lot of people. The United States seems to be the only place where this occurs.

 

[LouderVol]

What percentage attempted to climb over?

Would a fence slow them down long enough for border patrol agents to respond?

no idea the number. problem with an unwatched wall is we have no clue have effective or not it is.

I don't see how it could slow them down long enough for a border agent to come by. a couple people standing on each others shoulders, some rope, or even some just desperate enough to climb on their own. the border is so long no way our agents could respond in time. and for them to respond we would have to have cameras.

 

[volfanjustin]

Viewer discretion advised. Shocking footage from the national emergency taking place on the southern border

Wait, so it's quiet where we have a wall/fence?

 

[luthervol]

Who predicts Trump will attempt to end run Congress and declare a national emergency?

Place your bets now.

As the Mueller noose tightens, Trump gets crazier. So I say he will do it.

 

[05_never_again]

unhu

Que?

 

[tvolsfan]

Que?

Get that devil talk out of here. You know it scares people.

 

[NorthDallas40]

He will push for full DACA in exchange. If that fails he will go national emergency with no DACA.

This is the obvious play. Dims should be saying “fine you want the wall? Here are the DACA terms” it’s obvious. But instead they just say “no no no!” as they know it’s another notch in his belt and he’ll go on a two year victory lap.

 

[Velo Vol]

Even in instances where it is not, simply suggesting that immigrants to the country should speak/learn English is seen as "insensitive" or even racist by a lot of people.

I guess it all depends on the context and tone of how it's said.

 

[LouderVol]

Que?

consider it a sarcastic "yeah sure". similar to this:

 

[Velo Vol]

On the front lines of our national crisis.

 

[luthervol]

Wait, so it's quiet where we have a wall?

I think most people agree that there are places where a barrier makes sense and places where it is completely ludicrous. Trump was foolish to propose a complete and continuous wall. Not to mention the divisive and insulting way in which he went about it.

 

[LouderVol]

I think most people agree that there are places where a barrier makes sense and places where it is completely ludicrous. Trump was foolish to propose a complete and continuous wall. Not to mention the divisive and insulting way in which he went about it.

that is the literal point of a wall. to be divisive.

 

[NorthDallas40]

no idea the number. problem with an unwatched wall is we have no clue have effective or not it is.

I don't see how it could slow them down long enough for a border agent to come by. a couple people standing on each others shoulders, some rope, or even some just desperate enough to climb on their own. the border is so long no way our agents could respond in time. and for them to respond we would have to have cameras.

Show me a stationary camera and I’ll show you some deer rifle target practice. Stationary cameras would probably be the easiest thing to defeat without any other layers.

And a good deal of us are saying walks don’t replace agents. Why does that keep getting ignored. I’ve not seen anybody advocating lowering the agent count.

 

[evillawyer]

On the front lines of our national crisis.

Ditto with El Paso.

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[volfanjustin]

I think most people agree that there are places where a barrier makes sense and places where it is completely ludicrous. Trump was foolish to propose a complete and continuous wall. Not to mention the divisive and insulting way in which he went about it.

5 billion would not build a full wall.

Side note: it's always nice when a punk bitch like Acosta makes a fool out of himself

 

[Septic]

This is the obvious play. Dims should be saying “fine you want the wall? Here are the DACA terms” it’s obvious. But instead they just say “no no no!” as they know it’s another notch in his belt and he’ll go on a two year victory lap.

You should call Nancy and Chuck and tell them how to negotiate from a position of power.

Trump owns the shutdown, he said so himself. Also, the president had a bill on his desk to fund the government, approved by the GOP led Senate. Your assertion that this is on anyone but Donny is ludicrous. The people's representatives have spoken.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You should call Nancy and Chuck and tell them how to negotiate from a position of power.

Trump owns the shutdown, he said so himself. Also, the president had a bill on his desk to fund the government, approved by the GOP led Senate. Your assertion that this is on anyone but Donny is ludicrous. The people's representatives have spoken.

yeah you’ve been ranting that “people’s representatives” crap for a couple of days. My representative is right in line with my opinion.

 

[Septic]

As the Mueller noose tightens, Trump gets crazier. So I say he will do it.

Remember back when these same folks would lose their minds because Obama used EO's? The mental gymnastics to internally rationalize a 'national emergency" being declared in order to circumvent the check and balances of the separation of powers may require hospitalization for some.

Good times, good times.

 

[Septic]

yeah you’ve been ranting that “people’s representatives” crap for a couple of days. My representative is right in line with my opinion.

Does the term 'House of Representatives" trigger you?

 

[ajvol01]

no idea the number. problem with an unwatched wall is we have no clue have effective or not it is.

I don't see how it could slow them down long enough for a border agent to come by. a couple people standing on each others shoulders, some rope, or even some just desperate enough to climb on their own. the border is so long no way our agents could respond in time. and for them to respond we would have to have cameras.

So you're basically saying you are for open borders.

Obviously if BP can't respond fast enough with a wall you should agree it is nonsense to argue BP can respond fast enough without a wall.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Does the term 'House of Representatives" trigger you?

No. But why did me pointing out that this person’s representative is voicing his opinion trigger you ?

Wait... I know what will indeed trigger you.

Electoral College!!!!

 

[volfanjustin]

Remember back when these same folks would lose their minds because Obama used EO's? The mental gymnastics to internally rationalize a 'national emergency" being declared in order to circumvent the check and balances of the separation of powers may require hospitalization for some.

Good times, good times.

I also remember when you all were perfectly fine with unlimited amounts of EOs

 

[Hunerwadel]

This border nonsense is a national emergency but humans contributing climate change is a hoax? This President is seriously confused or just plain stupid.

 

[Mick]

I also remember when you all were perfectly fine with unlimited amounts of EOs

Eating Paint chips or were you kicked in the head by a donkey?

 

[05_never_again]

This border nonsense is a national emergency but humans contributing climate change is a hoax? This President is seriously confused or just plain stupid.

Whatever advances the narrative. Politicians aren't much different than wrestlers firing up a crowd during a promo. They are experts at telling their audience what they want to hear.