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Womp womp

U.S. Economy Added 304,000 Jobs in January; Unemployment at 4%

The government shutdown may have hurt the economy, but there’s no sign it slowed down the United States’ record-setting job market.

January’s growth means that American employers have added jobs for 100 consecutive months, extending a record run. The unemployment rate is near a multidecade low, and wages — long a weak point — are rising.
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NorthDallas40 said:
Womp womp

U.S. Economy Added 304,000 Jobs in January; Unemployment at 4%
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Payrolls surge by 304,000, smashing estimates despite government shutdown


Job growth in January shattered expectations, with nonfarm payrolls surging by 304,000 despite a partial government shutdown that was the longest in history, the Labor Department reported Friday.

The unemployment rate ticked higher to 4 percent, a level where it had last been in June, a likely effect of the shutdown, according to the department. However, officials said federal workers generally were counted as employed during the period because they received pay during the survey week of Jan. 12. On balance, federal government employment actually rose by 1,000.

Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had expected payrolls to rise by 170,000 and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 3.9 percent.

In all, it was a powerful performance at a time when economists increasingly have said they expect growth to slow in 2019. January marked 100 months in a row of positive job creation, by far the longest streak on record.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Payrolls surge by 304,000, smashing estimates despite government shutdown


Job growth in January shattered expectations, with nonfarm payrolls surging by 304,000 despite a partial government shutdown that was the longest in history, the Labor Department reported Friday.

The unemployment rate ticked higher to 4 percent, a level where it had last been in June, a likely effect of the shutdown, according to the department. However, officials said federal workers generally were counted as employed during the period because they received pay during the survey week of Jan. 12. On balance, federal government employment actually rose by 1,000.

Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had expected payrolls to rise by 170,000 and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 3.9 percent.

In all, it was a powerful performance at a time when economists increasingly have said they expect growth to slow in 2019. January marked 100 months in a row of positive job creation, by far the longest streak on record.
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Sorry that was weird...

Anyway, I meant to say 'thanks Obama' for getting this kicked off and providing a 76 month runway for the current unemployment streak.
 
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Stew Cook said:
The market just broke 25000! Don't count on the MSM to report this.
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LOL, how many times are we going to see 25,000 before trump is dunzo? Let's set the over/under at three.

Before anyone balks, remember that his policies just caused the stocks to have the worst year since Obama inherited a sh|t show in 2008.






 
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Mick said:
That is the overall fear that once on american soil they can seek "apply" for asylum. That is the only reason the redhat segment want a wall.
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why are the mostly applying when caught? and not before hand. that's my issue.

if they follow the rules, welcome. if they don't, not welcome.

If I as a citizen can get in trouble for something, no reason a non-citizen shouldn't also get in trouble for it. and in this case the punishment needs to fit the crime.
 
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Mick said:
I never said they had to be granted asylum and I never implied it was a get out of jail free card as louder implied. He also implied they can do it over the phone and I don't think that is the case.
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read it again
 
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Septic said:
LOL, how many times are we going to see 25,000 before trump is dunzo? Let's set the over/under at three.

Before anyone balks, remember that his policies just caused the stocks to have the worst year since Obama inherited a sh|t show in 2008.






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What do you expect it to do? Run up to 50,000 or use common sense and celebrate it's steady at 25,000?
 
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LouderVol said:
why are the mostly applying when caught? and not before hand. that's my issue.

if they follow the rules, welcome. if they don't, not welcome.

If I as a citizen can get in trouble for something, no reason a non-citizen shouldn't also get in trouble for it. and in this case the punishment needs to fit the crime.
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Trump's policies are keeping them on the mexico side of the border creating an artificial backlog. People are still waiting from the last caravan.
 
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AM64 said:
According to congressional net worths and their salaries, they'd never miss their salary; it's a pittance compared to the graft they receive.
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No doubt. But there is still no way that any of those money grubbing sociopaths will do without it. Now they would give up YOUR money in a heartbeat.
 
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Mick said:
Trump's policies are keeping them on the mexico side of the border creating an artificial backlog. People are still waiting from the last caravan.
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good, let them apply, get sorted, and then go from there.

if stopped on their side, they have broken none of our laws, so in my world their application is stronger.

also at what point do we say these asylum seekers are breaking the spirit of the matter? It seems like the reason it is used is because it is the easiest way in, not that the necessarily qualify for asylum.
 
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LouderVol said:
good, let them apply, get sorted, and then go from there.

if stopped on their side, they have broken none of our laws, so in my world their application is stronger.

also at what point do we say these asylum seekers are breaking the spirit of the matter? It seems like the reason it is used is because it is the easiest way in, not that the necessarily qualify for asylum.
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I can't disagree but the process might just weigh the claims based on how they enter. IDK.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
What do you expect it to do? Run up to 50,000 or use common sense and celebrate it's steady at 25,000?
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With all the deregulation and tariffs, I was told there would be winning. Celebrating the same milestone over and over would be funny if it didn't signify that we aren't aren't "steady", nice attempt at spin though. All of last years market gains were wiped out, own it.
 
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Septic said:
With all the deregulation and tariffs, I was told there would be winning. Celebrating the same milestone over and over would be funny if it didn't signify that we aren't aren't "steady", nice attempt at spin though. All of last years market gains were wiped out, own it.
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My 401k has done more in the last two years than the previous 8. I do call that winning.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...5ebe66-2575-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html


Rick Scott, a Republican, represents Florida in the U.S. Senate.

I’ve been a U.S. senator for three weeks now, and I can tell you that reports of hate and incompetence in Washington are severely understated. Things are actually much worse than they appear.

One year ago, I called on Congress to make a simple deal on immigration requiring both Republicans and Democrats to do two things — compromise and respect the wishes of the American people. This deal is so logical and so easy, even politicians in Washington should be able to grasp it. But, as the events of the past few weeks have shown, they cannot.

Democrats would have to agree with the American people that our border needs to be secure, and that we need some kind of physical barriers to secure it. It’s not complicated; it’s common sense.

Republicans would have to agree with the American people that “dreamers,” kids who grew up here after being brought to the United States by their parents, must be welcomed into our society. Again, it’s common sense.

That’s it. That’s all. Done. It is simply asking politicians to agree with the voters and do something practical and logical. In what parallel universe is this a hard decision? Answer: Washington.

The truth is, the vast majority of Republicans are ready to make this deal, and are ready to provide a route for the dreamers. But Democratic leaders are not ready to make this or any deal. Sure, the Democrats have voiced support and cast votes for border security in the form of physical barriers in the past, but they won’t do so now because of their hatred of the president of the United States.

Hate is bad that way; it clouds your judgment. As former senator Alan Simpson said at the funeral for former president George H.W. Bush, “Hatred corrodes the container it’s carried in.” That’s the predicament that Democratic leaders find themselves in now. They hate President Trump so much that they cannot behave in a rational manner.

The public overwhelmingly wants our borders to be secure, plenty of public opinion polls show that. Likewise, the public overwhelmingly wants acceptance for these kids who, through no fault of their own, were brought here, and who have grown up here, gone to school here, and who are now part of the fabric of our country.

My state of Florida is home to more than 27,000 dreamers. The notion that we would — after educating them, protecting them and raising them — kick them out of the country, well, it’s just absurd.

Let’s be very clear here: I am inflexible when it comes to illegal immigration. I am against it, always have been and always will be. The president was completely correct when he said that we don’t keep our doors locked at night because we hate the people on the outside, but rather because we love the people on the inside.

Florida is home to nearly 21 million people, more than 4 million of whom are Hispanic. They want fairness for these dreamers. But guess what else they want: a secure border. That’s right, and it’s not something you hear on the news, but it is true: Hispanics want border security.

In a post-election survey of 1,014 Hispanic voters in Florida, my campaign asked this question: Thinking about our nation’s immigration laws, do you think we need stricter or looser enforcement of these laws?

Sixty-nine percent of the respondents said we need stricter enforcement of our immigration laws, while only 29 percent preferred looser enforcement. Hispanic Americans want our borders secured.

Securing our borders with a physical barrier is not a partisan issue, it’s a common-sense issue. Likewise, once we agree to secure our borders, it is only common sense to deal fairly and justly with the dreamers.

There is only one thing standing in the way of this common-sense solution for America: irrational and clouded thinking motivated by hate from Democratic leaders in Washington.
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Velo Vol said:
Who's onboard?

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This seems lucrative. I'm researching doing the same thing, with the caveat of skip spring break/vacation in Mexico and put that money toward the wall. Mexico will pay for this wall, while improving my quality of life. I'll start with land acquisition, and hold onto it until funding is complete.

Murca!
 
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