The SEC vs the B10

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I know the SEC had a "down" year by their standards although one has to wonder what would have happened had Georgia been given a spot in the CFP.

SEC only had 9 teams make bowl games which is lower than usual but the top of the SEC showed out, minus Bama losing in overtime.

However the B10 clearly had a worse year than the SEC despite having 3 teams consistently ranked in the top 10. Nothing proved that more than the existence of Iowa in the Citrus Bowl. How in the world that team ever made it to the B10 championship game is beyond me. I know they didn't have to play OSU or UM in the regular season and got shut out by PSU but it shows how utterly weak the rest of the B10 was if Iowa was the "best of the rest".

OSU and PSU predictably lost to SEC teams and I'd say all in all that the B10 was down way more than the SEC was.
 
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txbo said:
PSU got beat by Ol Miss. Wisconsin also lost to LSU.
With opt-outs and transfers, I don't know how much you can judge a team by a bowl appearance.
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I agree, but all things being equal and all teams losing players to the portal and opt outs, the results are the results. I mean we started a true freshman for his first start at QB.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
I know the SEC had a "down" year by their standards although one has to wonder what would have happened had Georgia been given a spot in the CFP.

SEC only had 9 teams make bowl games which is lower than usual but the top of the SEC showed out, minus Bama losing in overtime.

However the B10 clearly had a worse year than the SEC despite having 3 teams consistently ranked in the top 10. Nothing proved that more than the existence of Iowa in the Citrus Bowl. How in the world that team ever made it to the B10 championship game is beyond me. I know they didn't have to play OSU or UM in the regular season and got shut out by PSU but it shows how utterly weak the rest of the B10 was if Iowa was the "best of the rest".

OSU and PSU predictably lost to SEC teams and I'd say all in all that the B10 was down way more than the SEC was.
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Iowa made it to the B10 championship, because the B10 West is horrible.
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They will never see the championship again after this year, since there are no longer any divisions in the conference going forward.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
I agree, but all things being equal and all teams losing players to the portal and opt outs, the results are the results. I mean we started a true freshman for his first start at QB.
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I hear you but all loses of personell just aren't equal. Not many teams have a 5 star freshman coming off the bench. Some teams just weren't reflective of what they were in the regular season.
 
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txbo said:
PSU got beat by Ol Miss. Wisconsin also lost to LSU.
With opt-outs and transfers, I don't know how much you can judge a team by a bowl appearance.
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Well, Big 10 West champ Iowa had virtually no transfers or opt-outs yet lost to the 6th place SEC team 35-0. #2 Big 10 OSU and #3 PSU got curb stomped by the #3 and #4 SEC teams and Wisconsin was defeated by an LSU team with a number of opt-outs, including their Heisman-winning QB. That's how you judge a conference. The Big10 was grossly over-rated, and has been for years.
 
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LAVol1 said:
Well, Big 10 West champ Iowa had virtually no transfers or opt-outs yet lost to the 6th place SEC team 35-0. #2 Big 10 OSU and #3 PSU got curb stomped by the #3 and #4 SEC teams and Wisconsin was defeated by an LSU team with a number of opt-outs, including their Heisman-winning QB. That's how you judge a conference. The Big10 was grossly over-rated, and has been for years.
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I agree Big 10 is over-rated. Outside of OSU and MI, not sure any Big 10 team could win an SEC game. But the bowl games are a poor reflection of what those teams were in the regular season.
 
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All that matters is did you hoist the NC trophy at the end of the year . Only one team does. If it’s not Tennessee I don’t give a rats ass if the team is from the SEC or the fricking IVY league. But I definitely not pulling for any SEC team that’s for sure. If we don’t make the playoff next year, I’m pulling for all the teams that are not in the SEC . Michigan vs Washington is poetic justice. No Ala. No Ga couldn’t have scripted this season better, unless we were in it.
 
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LAVol1 said:
Well, Big 10 West champ Iowa had virtually no transfers or opt-outs yet lost to the 6th place SEC team 35-0. #2 Big 10 OSU and #3 PSU got curb stomped by the #3 and #4 SEC teams and Wisconsin was defeated by an LSU team with a number of opt-outs, including their Heisman-winning QB. That's how you judge a conference. The Big10 was grossly over-rated, and has been for years.
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Iowa had 10 players listed as transfers or injuries. They had zero listed as opt-outs. TN had 19 listed as transfers, injuries, or opt-outs.

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Tennessee and Iowa's transfers, opt-outs and injuries for the Citrus Bowl

Who has decided to enter the transfer portal, opt-out or is hurt for the Citrus Bowl between Tennessee and Iowa.
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The Big 10 will get a much needed infusion of football talent next year. It will rival the SEC for the best football conference and we should get some awfully good games. The exception is Ohio State. Even with all those PAC teams coming in, OSU only got one, Oregon. Their non conference schedule gets Marshall, Western Mich and Akron. Mich game is in Columbus. They are a candidate for being over ranked next yr

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2024-25 Football Schedule - Ohio State

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Outside of playoffs, bowls any more are exhibitions with an eye towards momentum for the next year. I'm happy where we're at...some good young talent on both sides of the ball played very well yesterday and should give us some good momentum towards more portal signees and next season.
 
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just bob said:
Georgia beats Michigan handily. But I'm so glad they weren't there. haha
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Can we say that? They are arguably on par with Bama and GA this season. Same with Texas. The top seems a little more distributed around this year compared to years in the past. I honestly believe Washington has a pretty good shot to take this as well.

Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Michigan, and Washington all seem to be a cut above the rest this year.

In my opinion it just shows some of the positives the transfer portal is actually giving us. Hopefully this continues and we see less top heaviness across college football as things continue to change e
 
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txbo said:
I hear you but all loses of personell just aren't equal. Not many teams have a 5 star freshman coming off the bench. Some teams just weren't reflective of what they were in the regular season.
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I agree with that. The bowl games, especially this year, are not necessarily a good indicator of the team that played that year. Too many opt outs, etc. Except for a rare few teams (GA, Bama, etc) that can reload a superstar with one of several 5*s warming the bench, many teams that did have talent this year may have lost considerable amounts to the draft, portal or injuries. We were a completely different team without Hooker last year, even though Milton was able to play very well against Clemson.

I do think, however, the bowl games this year are a pretty good signal as to the strength of those teams in 2024 season. I certainly saw it that way with us.
 
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fossilfiction said:
I hope every SEC team not named Tennessee loses every game. Conference pride to the point of hoping the competition beats non-competition makes no sense.
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Until strength of schedule is factored into the equation. It totally makes sense when strength of schedule is major consideration for leveling the playing field. If strength of schedule didn't matter, Liberty would have been one of the four playoff teams.
 
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