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I know we had a lot of OLine snafus. But it looked to me that most of them were caused by the right side. Ollie lane, Chance Hall and Richmond all looked like they got beat on almost every play. Also it seemed to me that we ran the ball to the right side too many times. They have got to get that fixed.
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I did not think Ollie Lane played and also seemed like Drew Richmond did an okay job with blocking as tackle. The issuses seemed to be with the interior with Brandon Kennedy, Jahmir Johnson and Ryan Johnson all blowing up assignments. They brought in Chance Hall and Marcus Tatum to fix things but nothing helped. That is when I think they started running to the edges with some success. Even on the edge runs, the right guard and center kept blowing up assignments and we always had someone in the back field.
 
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I know nothing about d1 college football players lives but it seems to me two things could be tried if they're not already. One is make sure all these o linemen know each other on a personal basis. Family, intrests, faith etc. the more they know each other the more they'll care about each other. The more they care about each other the more likely they'll play as a unit rather than individuals. Another thing some of the o linemen are sharper on the uptake than others. Those that are, get them intrested in helping the others with play by play responsibilities....whats my assignment on this play? When they all know what their assignments are on any play confidence will bloom...and more likely they will be to play as a unit rather than individuals. Trey should lead this.
 
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Niehaus played well when Trey went out. CJP said mostly that it was missed assignments, such as the infamous first play from scrimmage.

Most lineman who care and are dedicated to being their best will look back on Saturday and do everything they can to not let it happen again and since 90% of problem was mental, it can be fixed with better knowledge, focus, and prep.
 
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I know that lots of missed tackles were actually our TEs not blocking well. You might have to look at the tape again and see if the TE was involved
 
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Catfishvfl said:
Kennedy started playing fairly well around the middle of the game. I think it took a few snaps for him to get his football legs!
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Things started out badly in the interior of the OL, but once adjustments were made the Vol line improved. Encouraging to see adjustments made during a game. :cool:
 
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I think the o line will get better the more in game reps they get together, it also didn't help we played a few series without Trey. They got better as the game went on and I think that'll be a common theme with the team as a whole the more reps they take the more comfortable they'll get and they will react more and think less
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Niehaus played well when Trey went out. CJP said mostly that it was missed assignments, such as the infamous first play from scrimmage.

Most lineman who care and are dedicated to being their best will look back on Saturday and do everything they can to not let it happen again and since 90% of problem was mental, it can be fixed with better knowledge, focus, and prep.
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The last position group you want this much shuffling with is the O line. Not having a third scrimmage was a huge mistake. Sure, if you know who your best five are, that’s great, but it’s obvious they didn’t.
 
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Roustabout said:
The last position group you want this much shuffling with is the O line. Not having a third scrimmage was a huge mistake. Sure, if you know who your best five are, that’s great, but it’s obvious they didn’t.
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Making a statement like that is total bullsh*t. It is such a cheap way to complain without really saying anything productive. If we had a 3rd scrimmage and someone got hurt you would have flipped to the other side of the fence and said it was a mistake cause of an injury. It is your opinion that it was a mistake and CJP's opinion that it was not needed, which of those 2 opinions do you think is based on more solid information, experience, and overall knowledge of the program?
 
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piratelifeforme said:
Making a statement like that is total bullsh*t. It is such a cheap way to complain without really saying anything productive. If we had a 3rd scrimmage and someone got hurt you would have flipped to the other side of the fence and said it was a mistake cause of an injury. It is your opinion that it was a mistake and CJP's opinion that it was not needed, which of those 2 opinions do you think is based on more solid information, experience, and overall knowledge of the program?
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This is a forum where people share their opinions. Attacking someone ad hominem for sharing an opinion you disagree with is out of line here. Refute the point, instead of beating up the poster.
 
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This is a good breakdown of some of the OL's play v. WVA.

rockytoptalk.com

It appears that their preference is to be primarily zone-scheme, but they aren’t shy about running a gap-scheme if the situation calls for it.
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When I rewatched the game on Sunday, I noticed that most of our struggles were on the right side of the line with Ryan Johnson and Drew Richmond. The left side with Trey Smith and Jahmir Johnson held up pretty well.

Think this is why we're seeing practice reports of Pruitt switching things around on the right side of the line this week. Seems to be testing out J. Johnson over at RT. We'll see what happens, but I would not be surprised to see some changes, because it's pretty obvious in reviewing the film that one side of the O-line held up much better than the other.
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
This is a forum where people share their opinions. Attacking someone ad hominem for sharing an opinion you disagree with is out of line here. Refute the point, instead of beating up the poster.
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Let me just jump into my Delorean and head back a few weeks and con CJP into having a 3rd scrimmage and see if the outcome changes during the first game.

It is impossible to refute the point when there is no evidence to support either point of view. The post was stupid and not even an opinion because it cannot be supported by facts. It was a way for someone to complain about things they know nothing about without having to support what they are complaining about. How do we know if a 3rd scrimmage helped or hurt? Did we have 3 scrimmages last year? Cause if we had 3 last year then it certainly did no good cause we looked far wrse in the first game last year than we did this year. Freak should have a post conformation button that says "are you really sure you wanna say that"
 
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piratelifeforme said:
Let me just jump into my Delorean and head back a few weeks and con CJP into having a 3rd scrimmage and see if the outcome changes during the first game.

It is impossible to refute the point when there is no evidence to support either point of view. The post was stupid and not even an opinion because it cannot be supported by facts. It was a way for someone to complain about things they know nothing about without having to support what they are complaining about. How do we know if a 3rd scrimmage helped or hurt? Did we have 3 scrimmages last year? Cause if we had 3 last year then it certainly did no good cause we looked far wrse in the first game last year than we did this year. Freak should have a post conformation button that says "are you really sure you wanna say that"
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I don 't know about the rest of the post because I harbor a sh#tload of unsupported opinions. But,the confirmation button is a good idea!
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Yeah, someone up the thread here doesn't seem to understand the difference between facts & opinions.
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Making an opinion in the form of a fact is makes it not an opinion. The statement was "Not having a third scrimmage was a huge mistake." That statement is not an opinion it is meant as a fact. How does the OP know that is was a mistake or not a mistake? Maybe the coaching staff thought they did have the best 5 picked and did not want to risk injury.

The statement as an opinion would have been "I believe they needed a 3rd scrimmage to determine who the best 5 O-line are......."
 
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allen phillips said:
I know we had a lot of OLine snafus. But it looked to me that most of them were caused by the right side. Ollie lane, Chance Hall and Richmond all looked like they got beat on almost every play. Also it seemed to me that we ran the ball to the right side too many times. They have got to get that fixed.
Grandpa
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Brandon Kennedy and Ryan Johnson played absolutely terrible! Other oline didn’t light it up but were serviceable. DWA also missed 4 blocks that his man made the tackle on our RB. Haven’t watched the defensive play a second time but not sure I need to. Taylor amen Tuttle are the only guys I remember playing well.
 
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Roustabout said:
The last position group you want this much shuffling with is the O line. Not having a third scrimmage was a huge mistake. Sure, if you know who your best five are, that’s great, but it’s obvious they didn’t.
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Completely nonsensical
 
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