The results are in

That's a tough row to hoe if the economy remains robust. Remember Carville's famous maxim.


Yes and no. I agree in principle, but I'm not sure that the middle class in two years is going to feel like the tax cuts were "fair," for lack of a better word.

And if you explain to the disenfranchised in Ohio and Michigan that the reason that the real reason the car companies are dying isn't because of some complicated game of tarrifs, but because the middle class cannot afford to buy new cars as frequently as they once did.
 
Yes and no. I agree in principle, but I'm not sure that the middle class in two years is going to feel like the tax cuts were "fair," for lack of a better word.

And if you explain to the disenfranchised in Ohio and Michigan that the reason that the real reason the car companies are dying isn't because of some complicated game of tarrifs, but because the middle class cannot afford to buy new cars as frequently as they once did.

Good luck "explaining" how the tax cuts weren't fair to people who have more money in their pockets.

The MC can't afford to buy new cars as often as they once did is due to interest rates going up along with the prices of new vehicles.
 
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Good luck "explaining" how the tax cuts weren't fair to people who have more money in their pockets.

The MC can't afford to buy new cars as often as they once did is due to interest rates going up along with the prices of new vehicles.


As to your first point, a one time infusion of $1,000 three years before will not look so great compared to corporate profits through the roof and executive bonus plans even more disproportionate to salaries of the working class.

As to your second point, regardless of the source of the cost of a new vehicle going up, what they know is that they cannot afford a new car. Meanwhile, the rich get richer, still. And, millenials continue to have no long term path to economic success.

The disenfranchised remain diesnfranchised. I will concede that Trump and the GOP have them on a brief sugar high right now. Two years from now? When it becomes apparent who the tax reform really benefited? Not so much.
 
As to your first point, a one time infusion of $1,000 three years before will not look so great compared to corporate profits through the roof and executive bonus plans even more disproportionate to salaries of the working class.

As to your second point, regardless of the source of the cost of a new vehicle going up, what they know is that they cannot afford a new car. Meanwhile, the rich get richer, still. And, millenials continue to have no long term path to economic success.

The disenfranchised remain diesnfranchised. I will concede that Trump and the GOP have them on a brief sugar high right now. Two years from now? When it becomes apparent who the tax reform really benefited? Not so much.

What the hell are you talking about? I'd think Luther would argue with you on that point.

When will you guys learn that the public isn't interested in jealousy politics anymore?
 
Good luck "explaining" how the tax cuts weren't fair to people who have more money in their pockets.

The MC can't afford to buy new cars as often as they once did is due to interest rates going up along with the prices of new vehicles.

"Crumbs."
 
And, millenials continue to have no long term path to economic success.

Funny you mention this...

One of our office "interns" in still working their way through college for a marketing degree. One of the class projects was to put together a poll about a "fictional" company and have the class do the survey. Basically, he used ours as an example of the part time work. Some of the questions were multiple choice, others were fill in the answer type thing.

Over 50% of his class stated a part time job, in order to be attractive, needed to pay a minimum of $15-20 an hour for them to be interested. That's this generation, LG. $15-20 an hour for part time work makes it "attractive."

Who is responsible for giving them this entitlement mentality other than my and your generation?
 
Yes and no. I agree in principle, but I'm not sure that the middle class in two years is going to feel like the tax cuts were "fair," for lack of a better word.

And if you explain to the disenfranchised in Ohio and Michigan that the reason that the real reason the car companies are dying isn't because of some complicated game of tarrifs, but because the middle class cannot afford to buy new cars as frequently as they once did.
Your track record of predictions is abysmal. I cannot see this prognostication as any different.
 
As to your first point, a one time infusion of $1,000 three years before will not look so great compared to corporate profits through the roof and executive bonus plans even more disproportionate to salaries of the working class.

As to your second point, regardless of the source of the cost of a new vehicle going up, what they know is that they cannot afford a new car. Meanwhile, the rich get richer, still. And, millenials continue to have no long term path to economic success.

The disenfranchised remain diesnfranchised. I will concede that Trump and the GOP have them on a brief sugar high right now. Two years from now? When it becomes apparent who the tax reform really benefited? Not so much.

Millennials should stop wearing pussy hats, complaining about gender labels and identity, praising Castro and socialism, and racking up massive student loan debt for worthless degrees.
 
As to your first point, a one time infusion of $1,000 three years before will not look so great compared to corporate profits through the roof and executive bonus plans even more disproportionate to salaries of the working class.

As to your second point, regardless of the source of the cost of a new vehicle going up, what they know is that they cannot afford a new car. Meanwhile, the rich get richer, still. And, millenials continue to have no long term path to economic success.

The disenfranchised remain diesnfranchised. I will concede that Trump and the GOP have them on a brief sugar high right now. Two years from now? When it becomes apparent who the tax reform really benefited? Not so much.
Economic envy and class warfare. Will there ever be any new plays added to the playbook?
 
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Funny you mention this...

One of our office "interns" in still working their way through college for a marketing degree. One of the class projects was to put together a poll about a "fictional" company and have the class do the survey. Basically, he used ours as an example of the part time work. Some of the questions were multiple choice, others were fill in the answer type thing.

Over 50% of his class stated a part time job, in order to be attractive, needed to pay a minimum of $15-20 an hour for them to be interested. That's this generation, LG. $15-20 an hour for part time work makes it "attractive."

Who is responsible for giving them this entitlement mentality other than my and your generation?
They'll learn. Hunger is a terrific motivator
 
As to your first point, a one time infusion of $1,000 three years before will not look so great compared to corporate profits through the roof and executive bonus plans even more disproportionate to salaries of the working class.

As to your second point, regardless of the source of the cost of a new vehicle going up, what they know is that they cannot afford a new car. Meanwhile, the rich get richer, still. And, millenials continue to have no long term path to economic success.

The disenfranchised remain diesnfranchised. I will concede that Trump and the GOP have them on a brief sugar high right now. Two years from now? When it becomes apparent who the tax reform really benefited? Not so much.
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

as a millennial I am actually slightly offended by this. we have every path to economic success that has ever existed. and more than there was 20, 40, or 60 years ago.
 
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

as a millennial I am actually slightly offended by this. we have every path to economic success that has ever existed. and more than there was 20, 40, or 60 years ago.

My kids are millennials and they are doing much better economically than I was at their age.
 
Funny you mention this...

One of our office "interns" in still working their way through college for a marketing degree. One of the class projects was to put together a poll about a "fictional" company and have the class do the survey. Basically, he used ours as an example of the part time work. Some of the questions were multiple choice, others were fill in the answer type thing.

Over 50% of his class stated a part time job, in order to be attractive, needed to pay a minimum of $15-20 an hour for them to be interested. That's this generation, LG. $15-20 an hour for part time work makes it "attractive."

Who is responsible for giving them this entitlement mentality other than my and your generation?


Every generation thinks the one behind it is soft, and that the generation two behind are absolutely doomed because of their laziness.

I maintain that they are not lazy. They are just greedy, and used to instant satisfaction of their goals and needs. I know one young lady, mid-20s, very sharp. Became a nurse. Meh, long hours and pay is about 80k, but now she wants to go to law school because she thinks she will instantly make 170k if she does.

There is no sense of career, or profession.

Who is to blame? No person, or group. Its just the way it is now, maybe a consequence of technology and not having to spend the time to learn how to get from A to B when you can just press a button and have it placed in front of you.

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I know one young lady, mid-20s, very sharp. Became a nurse.

I'm not sure if I can believe this.

Meh, long hours and pay is about 80k, but now she wants to go to law school because she thinks she will instantly make 170k if she does.

There is no sense of career, or profession.

Well, at least she will be multi-talented. She can charge a huge fee, give them a heart attack when they get the bill, then provide expensive health care in the aftermath.

Sounds like a win-win to me.
 
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I'm not sure if I can believe this.



Well, at least she will be multi-talented. She can charge a huge fee, give them a heart attack when they get the bill, then provide expensive health care in the aftermath.

Sounds like a win-win to me.


She can be a nurse paralegal, instead. They can do well if they are sharp and work hard.
 

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