The Republican Convention Thread

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MontyPython said:
So here's the truth of the matter:

As he frequently does, Trump the consummate politician, likes to play BOTH sides. In the section of the PC I quoted, Trump states WITH NO UNCERTAINTY that the neo-nazi group were "fine people".

Now you may be correct - that he before or after this point - stated that the neo-nazis were NOT good people. But it's irrelevant.

He's either a racist, a demagogue or both. Your pick.
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You took 2 lines out of the middle and I’m not even certain those lines actually were back to back but, even if they were, the reporters and Trump were talking over each other and Trump very clearly condemned the groups you claim he supported. I love your back pedal when caught. If the media was counting things on you like they do Trump they would call that a lie. Then you double down by claiming he’s a racist. Forgive me if I’ll take Herschel Walker’s word over yours given he actually knows the man and has been his friend for nearly 4 decades.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
Im talking about the narrative the media immediately put out. Because trump was for borders he became anti-immigration, then anti hispanic and then a full blown racist. You guys agree with that narrative.
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It's a little like the chicken or the egg debate.
Trump intentionally fostered a horrible relationship with the media for strategic purposes.
Trump intentionally cloaked his border wall with anti-immigration and anti Hispanic undertones for strategic purposes.
The Stone / Bannon strategy was always to DIVIDE in order to conquer.
I never dreamed that they were correct in their assessment of that large of a segment of the American public.
It's our national shame to wear.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
You took 2 lines out of the middle and I’m not even certain those lines actually were back to back but, even if they were, the reporters and Trump were talking over each other and Trump very clearly condemned the groups you claim he supported. I love your back pedal when caught. If the media was counting things on you like they do Trump they would call that a lie. Then you double down by claiming he’s a racist. Forgive me if I’ll take Herschel Walker’s word over yours given he actually knows the man and has been his friend for nearly 4 decades.
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LOL. There's no back peddle whatsoever.

Even FOX News acknowledged his racist remarks. Moreover, after his initial comments (the dialogue with the reporter was verbatim and back-to-back), Trump DOUBLED DOWN on his comments:

Aug. 15

During a highly contentious press conference with reporters in New York, Trump returned to his original message of blaming “both sides” for the deadly attack. He specifically railed on the “alt-left” that he said were “swinging clubs” as they “came charging at” the alt-right groups.

“I think there’s blame on both sides,” Trump said during a combative exchange with reporters. “I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either.”

Still want to defend him? Of course you do. This is what toadie idol worshippers do.
 
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luthervol said:
It's a little like the chicken or the egg debate.
Trump intentionally fostered a horrible relationship with the media for strategic purposes.
Trump intentionally cloaked his border wall with anti-immigration and anti Hispanic undertones for strategic purposes.
The Stone / Bannon strategy was always to DIVIDE in order to conquer.
I never dreamed that they were correct in their assessment of that large of a segment of the American public.
It's our national shame to wear.
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How did he cloak his support for a wall with anti-immigration tones? Saying he needs to build a wall is anti-immigration? Anti-hispanic?
 
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MontyPython said:
LOL. There's no back peddle whatsoever.

Even FOX News acknowledged his racist remarks. Moreover, after his initial comments (the dialogue with the reporter was verbatim and back-to-back), Trump DOUBLED DOWN on his comments:

Aug. 15

During a highly contentious press conference with reporters in New York, Trump returned to his original message of blaming “both sides” for the deadly attack. He specifically railed on the “alt-left” that he said were “swinging clubs” as they “came charging at” the alt-right groups.

“I think there’s blame on both sides,” Trump said during a combative exchange with reporters. “I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either.”

Still want to defend him? Of course you do. This is what toadie idol worshippers do.
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Was there truth in his comments about both sides to be blamed?
 
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luthervol said:
I'm just stating that Trump has a calculated strategy of being the biggest liar to ever hold the office.
Google metrics fully supports.
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Of all the presidents Obama had the biggest lie with if you like your coverage you can keep it. Cause Icouldn't. Nobody could.

Nothing Trump has said has had that kind of impact on me.

Bush jr stated weapons of mass destruction.

Clinton debated the word is.

Bush sr promised no new taxes.

My only point is they all lied and no better than Trump. To categorize him in a different league just isn't being honest.

And as Clinton would say....what does it even matter?
 
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NEO said:
Of all the presidents Obama had the biggest lie with if you like your coverage you can keep it. Cause Icouldn't. Nobody could.

Nothing Trump has said has had that kind of impact on me.

Bush jr stated weapons of mass destruction.

Clinton debated the word is.

Bush sr promised no new taxes.

My only point is they all lied and no better than Trump. To categorize him in a different league just isn't being honest.

And as Clinton would say....what does it even matter?
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Im surprised luther cares about lying. Who is he to judge what is truth?
 
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NEO said:
Of all the presidents Obama had the biggest lie with if you like your coverage you can keep it. Cause Icouldn't. Nobody could.

Nothing Trump has said has had that kind of impact on me.

Bush jr stated weapons of mass destruction.

Clinton debated the word is.

Bush sr promised no new taxes.

My only point is they all lied and no better than Trump. To categorize him in a different league just isn't being honest.

And as Clinton would say....what does it even matter?
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He even lied in person to the people of Flint
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I honestly cannot fathom how even Democrats cannot see how superior the RNC has been.
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I am not a democrat, but who really gives two sh!ts about the superiority of one convention over another?? Hopefully, you don't base your support and eventual vote for a candidate on a heavily edited/produced infomercial.
 
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lostsheep said:
I am not a democrat, but who really gives two sh!ts about the superiority of one convention over another?? Hopefully, you don't base your support and eventual vote for a candidate on a heavily edited/produced infomercial.
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I don’t but these things are kind of telling. One seems to be much more pro-America. If the Democrats are doing heavy editing with their side, then they did a terrible job.
 
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lostsheep said:
I am not a democrat, but who really gives two sh!ts about the superiority of one convention over another?? Hopefully, you don't base your support and eventual vote for a candidate on a heavily edited/produced infomercial.
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I prefer to compare red states and blue states and red cities and blue cities. The results speak for themselves.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I don’t but these things are kind of telling. One seems to be much more pro-America. If the Democrats are doing heavy editing with their side, then they did a terrible job.
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Depends on one's opinion of "pro-America," as well as one's ability to decipher between propaganda and truth (on both sides).
 
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MontyPython said:
Oh this should be good. Here's the verbatim transcript of the interview where Trump praised the racists.

Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group."

So, do tell about all the "lies" about Trump's support for the racists at the Charlottesville rally.
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Reading is fundamental.

 
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0nelilreb said:
You are an odd little duck , people give you reasons and you shoot them down , or just ignore the facts and lean harder left . What an independent thinker you are .
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By "people give you reasons," I'm assuming you're referring to your regurgitation of orange man's talking points. Thanks, but no thanks.

Continue with the name-calling and insults...typical.
 
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