The Reality

#76
#76
UT Hill Man said:
We will be breaking in a new QB, and lose our most dominating defensive player in a generation, as well as a host of play-makers on offense.

I don't know how Butch can coach any better than he did this year to make up the difference.
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Sounds like 1998 to me...
 
#79
#79
Probably_in_Class said:
Sounds like 1998 to me...
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So who is:

Al Wilson
Peerless Price
Shawn Bryson
Steve Johnson
Fred White
Copeland
Grant
Travis Henry
Goodrich
Stephens
Lewis
Ratliff
Raynoch Thompson
Cosey Coleman
Chad Clifton
Shaun Ellis


The 98 team was stacked with talent. In the three years prior to 98 the teams went:
11-2 / 7-1
10-2 / 7-1
11-1 / 6-1

As opposed to
9-4 / 4-4
9-4 / 5-3
7-6 / 3-5

We are nowhere near the same team like the 98 team.


I was talking to a friend of mine the other day and he said it was funny watching vols fans act like its 98 again.
 
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#81
#81
TheDeeble said:
We lost to Vanderbilt and South Carolina with a better team than what we'll have this year.

I think we'll be lucky to finish with 8 wins. Maybe butch can come up with some more cliches. That will fire up everyone.

"I'd rather have only 6 wins with great execution than 10 wins with marginal play". That sounds like something he'd say.
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On the contrary, how the squad regrouped to beat Nebraska amazes me. That was a massively beat up squad late in the year and a corpse on defense. Comparing it to the hugely experienced team that began the season represents Alternative Facts. Let's hope all the key injuries fell in one year and that curse is over. No the 2017 Vols can be much better with a decent break on injuries than the 2016 team. Special teams and defense can carry them until the qbs mature.
 
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#82
#82
volfannbama said:
So who is:

Al Wilson
Peerless Price
Shawn Bryson
Steve Johnson
Fred White
Copeland
Grant
Travis Henry
Goodrich
Stephens
Lewis
Ratliff
Raynoch Thompson
Cosey Coleman
Chad Clifton
Shaun Ellis


The 98 team was stacked with talent. In the three years prior to 98 the teams went:
11-2 / 7-1
10-2 / 7-1
11-1 / 6-1

As opposed to
9-4 / 4-4
9-4 / 5-3
7-6 / 3-5

We are nowhere near the same team like the 98 team.


I was talking to a friend of mine the other day and he said it was funny watching vols fans act like its 98 again.
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Google the word joke...
 
#83
#83
salutethehill said:
Well that's unfortunate.

On a side note, I'm glad we have another thread like this. I hope the entire off-season is full of threads like this, because it means more if it's posted a blue-million times.
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What do you expect them to discuss here? Their favorite quiche recipe? How much bigger Kim Kardasian's ass got in the last 12 months? Politics? IMO, they can hash out what you are complaining about until it is threadbare.
 
#84
#84
volfannbama said:
I was talking to a friend of mine the other day and he said it was funny watching vols fans act like its 98 again.
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Where does he "watch" these fans that act like that, and what does "act like its 98" mean?

It's an honest question. With the exception of maybe, 1 or 2 here, posting some extreme optimism, I don't see it at all.

Again, Im just curious.
 
#86
#86
Remy said:
UF lost 7 off their defense, they've not recruited in recent years to the levels to replace their stars over there with the same caliber of talent. They'll probably have an improved offense, but their defense falls off a cliff this season IMO.
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Yeah, their 3* true freshman LB all americans in the LSU game showed how much their defense will suck. /blue font



This year we will see what a good recruiter/bad developer can do against a bad recruiter/good developer.
 
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#87
#87
TNJOKER said:
It seems that every time Tennessee is a laughing stock.. that's when we bring it.. look at the Gators last year. They thought they had the game in the bad before it even started. Well..

You know the result. We have our backs against the wall...

We need results not cliche's.
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I think I understand what you mean by your "every time Tennessee is a laughingstock", that we typically do better, when our roster is talented, when our season's expectations are lower. However, we were an absolute laughingstock 2009-2013, and we pretty much never brought it.

Agree 1000% that we need results, not cliches. Although I would also add that if Jones ever starts really winning and exceeding expectations here, he can roll out all the ridiculous cliches he wants. Jmo.
 
#88
#88
daj2576 said:
And in his first four years he only beat Vandy one more time than Jones.
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Tennessee was 2-18-2 vs Vandy before Neyland's first season as head coach. He lost to Vandy his first year (like Jones), but then went 6-0-2 vs them during his first stint as Tennessee's head coach. Not a very good comparing on your part. Any way you look at it, Neyland's early success was much better and much more impressive vs a very good Vandy program at the time that UT had had great difficulty beating, than Jones' poor start vs one of the current dregs of the SEC.
 
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#89
#89
not to take away from the current conversation, but what does anything that happened 70 years ago have to do with what's happened in the last 4 years?

all you need to know is in today's landscape, and where TN is, and generally has been, and where Vandy is, and generally has been, no one coaching at TN should be .500 against Vandy. period.
 
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#91
#91
jakez4ut said:
not to take away from the current conversation, but what does anything that happened 70 years ago have to do with what's happened in the last 4 years?

all you need to know is in today's landscape, and where TN is, and generally has been, and where Vandy is, and generally has been, no one coaching at TN should be .500 against Vandy. period.
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Nothing. Surprised daj went there.
 
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