The QB situation (merged)

#151
#151
Volatility said:
I think it’s hard to rate any of our QB’s since they had to run for their lives on practically every play. Hopefully the OLine coach can help our guys unlearn whatever the former coaches did to them.
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Unfortunately... I must agree with you. By the way, who was our QB this year? The way they were running for their lives and being mowed down, I think I lost count and forgot who it was. Was his name Custer... or something like that?

Not only was our OL getting our QB lost in the mud in the backfield, or RB's were getting cut down back there, as well. Of course, none of this is news to anyone who watched any of our games this year, is it? Ole "Blood'N Guts" Jones strategy of run left, run right, incomplete pass to the left... squibb punt! Wow, what a legacy he left behind... and all those bricks!

What will Coach Pruitt and Company do with all those bricks??? My thoughts on this... hopefully, he can get our current players to discard those "cow-pasture" bricks and forget about them... and learn to play real Tennessee football once again, and learn to be champions on the field, as well as being successful in life.
 
#152
#152
Hopefully we can nail down a Grad Transfer, that can provide depth if nothign else. JG will probably come out of the spring as the starter and WM as the #2 but in the fall expect a transfer to atleast compete for the #2 spot.

I would definitely RS Shrout if I can but if he comes in ready to play there is a chance he sees the field if the other QBs struggle early!
 
#153
#153
JG is likely the starter next year, it would be good to see a competent offensive line blocking for him. Not a whole lot you can do when you have half a second before you have to get rid of the ball.

Also, getting a real quarterback coach has the potential to do wonders for him. Of course, there are no guarantees here but having the guy who coached Sam Darnold gives me a lot more confidence than having the guy who coached a string of no names at North Texas.
 
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#155
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OnlyGodForgives said:
Since we don't have one it should concern you. I'm hoping that by this time next year that position won't be in such a state of crisis. And that's not overstatement. Time will tell. right now we are in full-on Worleybird territory.
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It’s an overstatement
 
#156
#156
VolForLife83 said:
Only a RS sophomore? That's a Junior. Time to put up or shut up. And we need depth and someone who can get it done if he can't
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Call him whatever you want, but fact is, JG made only 6 starts last year as a first year player. He’s very green, needs fundamentals work, needs to be appropriately coached to make his reads quickly and either throw the ball away or tuck and run if it’s not there.

The kid can throw it and he’s accurate. He also has shown very good toughness and leadership ability. Plenty of material there and plenty of time to work with him since he has 3 years eligibility remaining as a player who only has 1/2 season worth of play under his belt.
 
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#157
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UTVolWarrior98 said:
I don't know about most of you, but I really do not feel that JG is going to be that great of a QB for us. He hasn't shown me one glimpse of GREATNESS. Sure, he has shown grit, toughness and that he can take a hard hit and get right back up and brush himself off, which I admire. But, the point here is that his arm strength is way overrated and that he isn't that accurate of a thrower. He is ok, but not GOOD. He doesn't show me flashes of a 5 star dual-threat QB at all. Look at the Tua Taglioulia Freshman from Alabama. Do you think JG could pull that kind of performance off in the clutch? lol Not even close. Im sorry, but I just don't see it. No way he should have been ranked #1 dual-threat QB coming out of HS. I mean the guy was named Mr. New Jersey! Personally, I think he sucks and is not the answer for our Vols.

Your thoughts?
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Don’t get the mr New Jersey comment. I think your an idiot if you think he sucks. Go Vols
 
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#158
#158
JG can be a good QB with a average OL and a decent QB coach. I think we do need depth though so a grad transfer would benefit the team.
 
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k-town_king said:
So the true freshman coming in the fall, who threw 51% in high school compared to JG's 61.9% in college, and 26 ints in his one year of starting is going to play over JG?

The guy ranked literally a thousand spots lower as a recruit, who started only a few more games in HS than JG has in college, who passed the ball worse against hs competition than JG did vs SEC teams will play?

:blink::unsure::ermm:
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I don't know who JP bringing in, but JG is not the answer in my opinion. I would rather go with Mcbride
 
#160
#160
Even if you're sold on JG, and I'm not sure how you could be at this point, having one QB on our roster that we're comfortable with isn't a spot that we want to be in.
 
#161
#161
We need every QB we can get, none, I repeat NONE of the QB's we have on the roster are proven in any capacity at all, having a JUCO this spring will challenge everyone at QB and may the best man win. Hoping CJP will choose the QB that will give Tennessee the best chance to win in 2018. There are no rebuilding years in the SEC, play every game to win and that includes all of our games in 2018.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Either our coaches don't think our current QB's are a "right fit" or our coaches don't want to try to develop QB's.

The reason why I am concerned is because

A. Dormady decided to transfer, but he's more Pro Style.
B. JG is only a R-Sophomore.
C. Too many articles suggesting we are getting a Grad Transfer (1 year basically)
D. Only Jancek is the oldest now. We have a very young QB core to develop.

Thoughts?
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I was concerned in 2008 that with a QB duo of Simms & Compton that we would be doomed and we were. That is why our opponents keyed on A Foster all game. They knew that we had to run the ball because of inadequate q.b. play
Concerned about this years qb play also.
 
#164
#164
There's gonna be some big ole crocodile tears by some on this board when JG is # 2 and Pruitt trots out a grad transfer at the QB spot :)
 
#165
#165
greazy1722 said:
I don't know who JP bringing in, but JG is not the answer in my opinion. I would rather go with Mcbride
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So you want to go with the guy who completed 42.5% vs the guy at 61.9%?

And the guy who went 1/8 vs USM vs the guy who went 9/13 against them?

So you would rather we play a worse qb because you don't like JG basically.
 
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k-town_king said:
So you want to go with the guy who completed 42.5% vs the guy at 61.9%?

And the guy who went 1/8 vs USM vs the guy who went 9/13 against them?

So you would rather we play a worse qb because you don't like JG basically.
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Of course. The backup is ALWAYS the better QB. VN logic. Why some have such a hard time understanding how important actual coaching is is baffling. JG should be the clear starting QB.
 
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#167
We have some the dumdest fans on this board... You morons criticize the system but then turn around and criticize the players in the same system....?? Some of you that say JG sucks actually think WM is the answer? Based on what? Kelly sucked at running back.. was that his fault??? I don’t see any one of you on here trashing Kelly subpar rb performance. Any possible way it could be because of system and terrible o line? The CBJ offensive system was a QB killer.. Dobbs survived this system that was designed to kill QBs. Who else playing QB did not get injured during the CBJ era? Stop with your non football educated opinions. You guys are clueless... JG may not be the answer but you CAN NOT judge him based on the crap CBJ system. Quit trashing these guys and be supportive..!!!
 
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#169
#169
I hope the kids and coaches handle it better than some of the characters on this board. :loco:
 
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k-town_king said:
What did you expect with the coaching and players around him? He faced all bowl and or SEC teams each start.

61.9% overall and 65.1% vs SEC teams is pretty accurate.

He lead some great drives with us down already. We would have won the SC game on a late drive if not for a drop in the endzone.

I don't know what some of you expect. People who actually get paid to analyze this stuff all think he played well.

Its hard to have better numbers than he did in that situation.

His last four games he hit 67% of his passes for over 9 ypa. You think many freshman would do better than that?
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Stats are the enemy of opinions. so I commend your data.:hi:

However, all stats are man made. With that being said, the good Ol' eye test says he holds the ball way too long and is uncomfortable and immobile in the pocket.

"I don't always throw before the rush hits me, but when I do I complete most of my passes" -JG

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Carson11 said:
We have some the dumdest fans on this board... You morons criticize the system but then turn around and criticize the players in the same system....?? Some of you that say JG sucks actually think WM is the answer? Based on what? Kelly sucked at running back.. was that his fault??? I don’t see any one of you on here trashing Kelly subpar rb performance. Any possible way it could be because of system and terrible o line? The CBJ offensive system was a QB killer.. Dobbs survived this system that was designed to kill QBs. Who else playing QB did not get injured during the CBJ era? Stop with your non football educated opinions. You guys are clueless... JG may not be the answer but you CAN NOT judge him based on the crap CBJ system. Quit trashing these guys and be supportive..!!!
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thank you someone isnt an idiot around here
 
#172
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k-town_king said:
What did you expect with the coaching and players around him? He faced all bowl and or SEC teams each start.



61.9% overall and 65.1% vs SEC teams is pretty accurate.



He lead some great drives with us down already. We would have won the SC game on a late drive if not for a drop in the endzone.



I don't know what some of you expect. People who actually get paid to analyze this stuff all think he played well.



Its hard to have better numbers than he did in that situation.



His last four games he hit 67% of his passes for over 9 ypa. You think many freshman would do better than that?
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Easy Rerun


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#173
#173
k-town_king said:
So you want to go with the guy who completed 42.5% vs the guy at 61.9%?

And the guy who went 1/8 vs USM vs the guy who went 9/13 against them?

So you would rather we play a worse qb because you don't like JG basically.
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nothing personal against the kid. I just think he holds on the ball to long. he gotta strong arm though
 
#175
#175
I don't think most fans realize just how HORRIBLE the offensive system that was here actually was. I think now having a more pro-style offense will help every player on offense.....the OL, RB, WR and especially the QB. I haven't given up on JG yet at all. He had that high ranking because he was/is very talented, I just think he was in a terrible system. I would not be surprised at all for him to take some huge steps forward in development this spring & summer. Butch's system was only descent the one year it was loaded with talent that is now on NFL rosters.
 
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