The Problems with Trans-ideology

[GVF]

Sex ed isn't only about reproduction. The vast majority of sex has nothing to do with reproduction

Agreed. I see it as maybe a one week topic in the class at best.

But, I will say IMO the class has to be very well laid out and completely void of attempts to influence one way or the other. Alot of kids, and some adults, don't even understand what is happening with their bodies at those ages, and that's where sex-ed should focus.



Sex-Ed and sexuality should be two completely different classes and sexuality should not be a class for that age group. Sexuality preference has never had a scientific trigger discovered, and IMO as a non-scientist, may stem more from socio experiences at some point in life that was not spoke of or educated of at home for whatever reason. And I emphasize IMO.

 

[NashVol11]

LOL

Do homosexuals use condoms differently than heterosexuals?

If there's no difference, then homosexuality is covered in sex ed already and all the screeching to ban it is stupid

 

[hog88]

If there's no difference, then homosexuality is covered in sex ed already and all the screeching to ban it is stupid

You're reaching worse than when you defend Hamas.

 

[NashVol11]

You're reaching worse than when you defend Hamas.

Considering you retreated straight into a strawman in both cases instead of arguing the point, I must be onto something

 

[hog88]

Considering you retreated straight into a strawman in both cases instead of arguing the point, I must be onto something

Come on, tell us what about STD prevention methods needs to be homosexual specific?

Sex Ed should not be teaching kids HOW to have sex, hetro or homo.

 

[MemphisVol77]

"Biology" is a pretty weak and pretextual excuse to teach one sexual proclivity and exclude all others. That is condoning one sexual preference, more than any other situation you described would be

I'm not calling for, nor making an excuse, for any sexual proclivity to be taught.

The state's has no business teaching little Johhny and Suzie or little Johhny and Billy how to use their "bonus orifices".

The state does have business teaching little Johhny, Susie, and Billy how babies are made and why they all got monkey pox.

 

[NashVol11]

Come on, tell us what about STD prevention methods needs to be homosexual specific?

PrEP is primarily for gay men, hepatitis A is more prevalent among people (gay or straight) who have anal sex, there are a lot more examples. You seem confident in your ignorance

 

[MemphisVol77]

Sex ed isn't only about reproduction. The vast majority of sex has nothing to do with reproduction

That is the root of our disagreement. I don't think it's the state's responsibility to teach it. We can agree to disagree.

 

[Vol8188]

"Biology" is a pretty weak and pretextual excuse to teach one sexual proclivity and exclude all others. That is condoning one sexual preference, more than any other situation you described would be

Only one form of sexuality advances the human race. Yes, it should be promoted over all others.

 

[Vol8188]

If describing how heterosexual people have sex doesn't condone heterosexuality, then describing how gay people have sex doesn't condone homosexuality either. It seems like a weird omission to just never mention that people other than heterosexuals exist

We should condone heterosexuality.

 

[Vol8188]

It wouldn't be the state's job to "condone or condemn" heterosexuality either, which is why it's an education class and not a morality judgment

Yes it would. Heterosexual is vital to the existence of the state

 

[hog88]

PrEP is primarily for gay men, hepatitis A is more prevalent among people (gay or straight) who have anal sex, there are a lot more examples. You seem confident in your ignorance

So use a condom? Do homosexuals put them on differently?

 

[Vol8188]

PrEP is primarily for gay men, hepatitis A is more prevalent among people (gay or straight) who have anal sex, there are a lot more examples. You seem confident in your ignorance

Yes, anal sex is a great way to spread disease. We can tell kids to avoid anal sex. I’m okay with that

 

[CobbVol]

You're reaching worse than when you defend Hamas.

Or attacking women/girls for not wanting to dress/shower with the opposite sex.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[GroverCleveland]

Did we decide whether trans-sexual identity is:

1) An ideology?
2) Genetic or otherwise biologically compelled?
3) A personality trait, involuntary?
4) A personality trait, at least somewhat voluntary?
5) A permanent mental illness?
6) A temporary mental illness?
7) A social election?


Or pie?

I am leaning towards a societal mind virus.

 

[Tin Man]

H.R. 3492 is scheduled for a floor vote today, 12/17/25. Some highlights

Prevent the use of Federal funds and ACA health plans to cover the costs of gender transition.

Restrict higher education instruction for gender affirming care and provide for deportations of non-US nationals who violate the restrictions.

Criminalize providing gender affirming care (including puberty blockers, surgeries, hormone therapy) to those under 18. Criminal penalties would apply to care providers and parents who allow gender affirming care to minors.

IMHO, this is overreach. If abortion care regulation is returned to the states, then gender affirming care should be the purview of the states. The only action Congress should attempt is to regulate the use of federal funds.

 

[GroverCleveland]

H.R. 3492 is scheduled for a floor vote today, 12/17/25. Some highlights

Prevent the use of Federal funds and ACA health plans to cover the costs of gender transition.

Restrict higher education instruction for gender affirming care and provide for deportations of non-US nationals who violate the restrictions.

Criminalize providing gender affirming care (including puberty blockers, surgeries, hormone therapy) to those under 18. Criminal penalties would apply to care providers and parents who allow gender affirming care to minors.

IMHO, this is overreach. If abortion care regulation is returned to the states, then gender affirming care should be the purview of the states. The only action Congress should attempt is to regulate the use of federal funds.

Yep.

 

[Sea Ray]

H.R. 3492 is scheduled for a floor vote today, 12/17/25. Some highlights

Prevent the use of Federal funds and ACA health plans to cover the costs of gender transition.

Restrict higher education instruction for gender affirming care and provide for deportations of non-US nationals who violate the restrictions.

Criminalize providing gender affirming care (including puberty blockers, surgeries, hormone therapy) to those under 18. Criminal penalties would apply to care providers and parents who allow gender affirming care to minors.

IMHO, this is overreach. If abortion care regulation is returned to the states, then gender affirming care should be the purview of the states. The only action Congress should attempt is to regulate the use of federal funds.

Those things aren't addressing the problem. It's not because of those things that insurance is so high. Congress needs to really get at the problem. Congress sucks

 

[Tin Man]

Those things aren't addressing the problem. It's not because of those things that insurance is so high. Congress needs to really get at the problem. Congress sucks

Well, our Federal Government’s difficulty making changes is by design. The founding fathers wanted to insure that minority factions couldn’t do away with our form of government (by of and for the people) for expediency in accomplishing their goals.

Unfortunately, our elected members of government haven’t been especially good at doing what’s needed for 2&1/2 centuries. These past 45 years, they’ve been particularly good at outspending federal revenues and not a whole lot else.

Still, my point is founded in the principle of separation of powers and the limited role of the federal government. While governments at each level flounder through doing other than what they should do, overreach is becoming a greater problem. When this occurs under “conservative” majorities, as the saying goes, Houston, we have a problem…

 

[Sea Ray]

Well, our Federal Government’s difficulty making changes is by design. The founding fathers wanted to insure that minority factions couldn’t do away with our form of government (by of and for the people) for expediency in accomplishing their goals.

Unfortunately, our elected members of government haven’t been especially good at doing what’s needed for 2&1/2 centuries. These past 45 years, they’ve been particularly good at outspending federal revenues and not a whole lot else.

Still, my point is founded in the principle of separation of powers and the limited role of the federal government. While governments at each level flounder through doing other than what they should do, overreach is becoming a greater problem. When this occurs under “conservative” majorities, as the saying goes, Houston, we have a problem…

I agree with those points but my criticism is more specific. We have 3 huge problems that our Congress hasn't solved. Constitutionally they are empowered to address these:

1) Healthcare
2) Immigration
3) Deficit

They should have dealt with these things 15-20 yrs ago. They're far bigger now because they weren't addressed then

 

[Tin Man]

I agree with those points but my criticism is more specific. We have 3 huge problems that our Congress hasn't solved. Constitutionally they are empowered to address these:

1) Healthcare
2) Immigration
3) Deficit

They should have dealt with these things 15-20 yrs ago. They're far bigger now because they weren't addressed then

I would set the timeframe at 45 years and counting.

 

[GroverCleveland]

I agree with those points but my criticism is more specific. We have 3 huge problems that our Congress hasn't solved. Constitutionally they are empowered to address these:

1) Healthcare
2) Immigration
3) Deficit

They should have dealt with these things 15-20 yrs ago. They're far bigger now because they weren't addressed then

Because their nutless.

 

[hog88]

H.R. 3492 is scheduled for a floor vote today, 12/17/25. Some highlights

Prevent the use of Federal funds and ACA health plans to cover the costs of gender transition.

Restrict higher education instruction for gender affirming care and provide for deportations of non-US nationals who violate the restrictions.

Criminalize providing gender affirming care (including puberty blockers, surgeries, hormone therapy) to those under 18. Criminal penalties would apply to care providers and parents who allow gender affirming care to minors.

IMHO, this is overreach. If abortion care regulation is returned to the states, then gender affirming care should be the purview of the states. The only action Congress should attempt is to regulate the use of federal funds.

Agreed