The Problems with Trans-ideology

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NashVol11 said:
A trans woman participating in a swim meet is bullying? Be serious. Riley Gaines didn't "stand up" for anyone but literally herself, because she didn't get to hold a 5th place trophy immediately. There's no secret noble cause behind it
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Yes it's deliberately and selfishly taking a spot from a female in a female competition. Reports of what occurred in the locker room support that as well as our in to question the veracity of the "I'm a female"claims

She stood up for the person who was kept out of the A final and the one knocked out of even attending the meet. Real bullying is in trying to ruin the lives of anyone who dares to speak out. That's what you seem to support
 
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utvolpj said:
Yes it's deliberately and selfishly taking a spot from a female in a female competition. Reports of what occurred in the locker room support that as well as our in to question the veracity of the "I'm a female"claims

She stood up for the person who was kept out of the A final and the one knocked out of even attending the meet.
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Trans people can play sports too, trying to frame that as "bullying" is whiny as hell.
utvolpj said:
Real bullying is in trying to ruin the lives of anyone who dares to speak out. That's what you seem to support
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What are you talking about? Just throwing s*** at the wall at this point. Saying Riley Gaines is an opportunistic POS, which she is, isn't "bullying her because she dared to speak out"
 
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NashVol11 said:
Also, congrats, you took like 12 trans women competing in NCAA sports (within each sport's rules about hormones etc. and largely not winning anything) and banned them from all sports entirely, mainly so Riley Gaines can enrich herself. What a good thing to do. Having the entire country harass a tiny minority group is what good guys do
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I actually did nothing of the sort

Banned completely? Could those 12 not actually still compete in the men's competition?
 
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NashVol11 said:
Trans people can play sports too, trying to frame that as "bullying" is whiny as hell.
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Run it as an open division and let it fly. Continuing the charade does not one any good. Lia Thomas was an average male swimmer who used a loophole and a captured support group to jump into a division they could finally compete in. It's not a heroic act
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What are you talking about? Just throwing s*** at the wall at this point
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Or you're posting without knowing all the facts. An intact male parading around a women's locker room could absolutely be called bullying or intimidation
 
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utvolpj said:
I actually did nothing of the sort

Banned completely? Could those 12 not actually still compete in the men's competition?
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There was no need to take trans women who identify as women, have taken several rounds of hormones as women, etc. and say "no you're a man again" when they met all requirements to compete. If Riley got to hold her stupid trophy then this may never have been an issue
 
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NashVol11 said:
There was no need to take trans women who identify as women, have taken several rounds of hormones as women, etc. and say "no you're a man again" when they met all the requirements to compete. If Riley got to hold her stupid trophy then this may never have been an issue
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Others spoke out once Riley did. The fear of being ruined by the leftist mob kept most mouths shut. That's no longer the case as the needle is slowly moving away from insanity
 
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utvolpj said:
Run it as an open division and let it fly. Continuing the charade does not one any good. Lia Thomas was an average male swimmer who used a loophole and a captured support group to jump into a division they could finally compete in. It's not a heroic act
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Lia Thomas's transition had nothing to do with swimming. Who said competing was a heroic act? It doesn't have to be heroic or bullying, it's a person competing in a sport.
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Or you're posting without knowing all the facts. An intact male parading around a women's locker room could absolutely be called bullying or intimidation
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Moving the goalposts all over the place because you recognize Riley is a bully, and really want to say "no but Lia is too"
 
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NashVol11 said:
Lia Thomas's transition had nothing to do with swimming. Who said competing was a heroic act? It doesn't have to be heroic or bullying, it's a person competing in a sport.
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Who said it? Thousands and thousands made that claim that a guy tucking into a one piece tech suit was heroic. Done to compete on a level where they could finally win something. Kinda sad from an athletic and mental health standpoint
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Moving the goalposts all over the place because you recognize Riley is a bully, and really want to say "no but Lia is too"
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Still not doing the research? Ok
 
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NashVol11 said:
As usual, angrily ranting and raving only to agree that Riley wasn't victimized and to suggest that it's OTHER people (who didn't play the victim professionally or whine to high heaven) that should be the ones with a gripe, if any. She saw an opportunity to enrich herself (at Lia Thomas's direct expense, btw) and took it because she's a selfish bully
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Actually it was very unselfish of her to take the arrows from people like you so others wouldn't have to. Look at how much criticism she's getting from you considering she's taking the right stance
 
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NashVol11 said:
Trans people can play sports too, trying to frame that as "bullying" is whiny as hell.

What are you talking about? Just throwing s*** at the wall at this point. Saying Riley Gaines is an opportunistic POS, which she is, isn't "bullying her because she dared to speak out"
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Trans people are welcome to compete in sports. They should do it with the males
 
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Sea Ray said:
Actually it was very unselfish of her to take the arrows from people like you so others wouldn't have to. Look at how much criticism she's getting from you considering she's taking the right stance
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How heroic to "take those arrows" from her national TV spot and probably her future Congressional seat, she really sacrificed so much - maybe even a career selling insurance in Kentucky - for others. Very admirable
 
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NashVol11 said:
How heroic to "take those arrows" from her national TV spot and probably her future Congressional seat, she really sacrificed so much - maybe even a career selling insurance in Kentucky - for others. Very admirable
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And let's be honest here, you haven't had a chance to see here get beat up by one of your girly men yet. I say a woman can't be hero until a man beats her around so you can watch it for entertainment.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I'm not jealous, I don't want her career at all. I'm pointing out that people are framing it as a sacrifice when she has personally benefited greatly, which is the opposite of a sacrifice
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She initially spoke out with no promise of personal benefit. Actually, given the tone around the country, failure and ostracization were the more likely outcomes.

You're trying to assign intent based on the final result which is completely backwards
 
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NashVol11 said:
There was no need to take trans women who identify as women, have taken several rounds of hormones as women, etc. and say "no you're a man again" when they met all requirements to compete. If Riley got to hold her stupid trophy then this may never have been an issue
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Let’s be clear: these freaks never stopped being men in the first place. Pretending otherwise is exactly why normal people need to listen to clowns like yourself entertain this lunacy.
 
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utvolpj said:
She initially spoke out with no promise of personal benefit. Actually, given the tone around the country, failure and ostracization were the more likely outcomes.

You're trying to assign intent based on the final result which is completely backwards
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Does not sound like that at all. UK told her not to talk to the media and she did it anyway

www.facebook.com

137K views · 4.7K reactions | Riley Gaines Chose to Share Her Story With The Daily Wire | Ben Shapiro

Riley Gaines Chose to Share Her Story With The Daily Wire
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NashVol11 said:
I'm not jealous, I don't want her career at all. I'm pointing out that people are framing it as a sacrifice when she has personally benefited greatly, which is the opposite of a sacrifice
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She has parlayed it into a career. I assume she chose this over going to dental school which was her original plan. If she can do that, more power to her
 
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Sea Ray said:
You sound jealous. If she can work this into a career, God Bless Her
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She's taken up a worthy cause she herself was actually involved with (so it's not like she was some rando that just decided to leap in from the outside) and in the process has made a niche for herself. Nash is throwing out every aspect except that last part to steer the narrative.

The entirety of her stance is correct...women's sports is for women and that doesn't (and never should have) included people who just "decided" that should include them.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Lia Thomas's transition had nothing to do with swimming. Who said competing was a heroic act? It doesn't have to be heroic or bullying, it's a person competing in a sport.

Moving the goalposts all over the place because you recognize Riley is a bully, and really want to say "no but Lia is too"
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Has lia thomas finished transitioning??
 
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utvolpj said:
Who said it? Thousands and thousands made that claim that a guy tucking into a one piece tech suit was heroic. Done to compete on a level where they could finally win something. Kinda sad from an athletic and mental health standpoint

Still not doing the research? Ok
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it always the same type of person supporting this lunacy..the one that can't accept they are not special..that's why these mentally ill people transition.
 
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Sea Ray said:

130 Democrat congressional representatives urge SCOTUS to side with trans athlete in Title IX legal battle​




At least these Dems have an opinion on it, unlike some folks here

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130 Democrat congressional representatives urge SCOTUS to side with trans athlete in Title IX legal battle

A coalition of 130 congressional Democrats filed an amicus brief urging the Supreme Court to support transgender athletes in two Title IX cases.
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I fully encourage their efforts and support in this cause.
 
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