The Problems with Trans-ideology

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Vol8188 said:
How many women’s professional sports even exist? We have the WNBA and whatever the soccer league is. That’s about it.

A man did just win a gold medal in boxing over biological women

But you have to be an absolute idiot to not accept the obvious reality that biological men have massive physical advantages over women.

Obvious examples are easy to find. Look at track and field records by sex as an easy example. Look at the size of players on a WNBA roster vs NBA.

The advantages are obvious and undeniable to anyone being honest
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You were letting facts get in the way of emotion. Remember, covid and evolution are the only two sizes that should never be questioned. Biology all that other stuff, anatomy, it's just a big lie and it should be questioned and has been proven false. You give a girl up mastectomy and she is a guy how hard is it to understand that? (Blue font)
 
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NashVol11 said:
We're talking about trans women, who have fulfilled the requirements of women's sports leagues including hormones, etc. That you have to change the subject and still have zero examples of superstar trans women is telling
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But there are still advantages such as muscle mass, bone density that doesn't go away or lag sometimes a decade behind lead indicators like testosterone levels etc.

Women's soccer teams are getting trounced by teams whose players are just beginning puberty. World class women's athletes smoked by children.

Your argument just doesn't hold water.
 
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KB5252 said:
But there are still advantages such as muscle mass, bone density that doesn't go away or lag sometimes a decade behind lead indicators like testosterone levels etc.

Women's soccer teams are getting trounced by teams whose players are just beginning puberty. World class women's athletes smoked by children.

Your argument just doesn't hold water.
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People keep saying this about my "argument" when I asked a question that still has no answer. Where is the dominant trans women's soccer player then?
 
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NashVol11 said:
People keep saying this about my "argument" when I asked a question that still has no answer. Where is the dominant trans women's soccer player then?
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It has been answered. The exact moment a "good" (defined as a truly legit competitor among his peers) male decides to switch sides in a sport where doing so is allowed they will kill it.* I've already cited the best official 100m ever run by a female is just under the the 8,000th men's time and doesn't even make it into the top 300 boys (under 18) time.

*The "sport" in question does matter as there's a scale in how dependent on raw physical ability various activities are but there isn't a sane way to approach the topic without conceding the physical advantages. ANY male considered a legit competitor with his peers in an athletic sport will immediately be among the elite, if not best outright, at that sport. To argue otherwise is Flat Earth level denial.
 
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hndog609 said:
It has been answered. The exact moment a "good" (defined as a truly legit competitor among his peers) male decides to switch sides in a sport where doing so is allowed they will kill it.* I've already cited the best official 100m ever run by a female is just under the the 8,000th men's time and doesn't even make it into the top 300 boys (under 18) time.

*The "sport" in question does matter as there's a scale in how dependent on raw physical ability various activities are but there isn't a sane way to approach the topic without conceding the physical advantages. ANY male considered a legit competitor with his peers in an athletic sport will immediately be among the elite, if not best outright, at that sport. To argue otherwise is Flat Earth level denial.
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So the answer then is that it doesn't exist except in a hypothetical future, but we needed federal government intervention anyway
 
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NashVol11 said:
People keep saying this about my "argument" when I asked a question that still has no answer. Where is the dominant trans women's soccer player then?
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It’s irrelevant. You don’t have an argument just bs. A dude is taking a spot from an actual female. It doesn’t matter if he’s complete garbage or not it’s still a spot taken. You leave out all the other crap girls have to deal with. The vast majority don’t want to have a dude on their team, in their locker room, or anything else. People aren’t arguing with you their calling you a clown for defending this nonsense.
 
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NashVol11 said:
So the answer then is that it doesn't exist except in a hypothetical future, but we needed federal government intervention anyway
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Oh absolutely. As the acceptable number of biological males competing against biological females is zero (in female sports, if it's open competition then whatever) the level of competition is utterly meaningless. It should have been self-evident where any thoughts of males competing with females took care of itself but somehow that isn't the case so you get the intervention.

And you leveraging the "dominating or false"" ploy was always a fail, in reality and context. Every female in a female sport that was displaced by a biological male shouldn't have happened. Every...single...one. It doesn't matter if it was for 1000th place in whatever female sport if #1000 should have been a female and was bumped to 1001 it's bs and shouldn't have happened. It's absolutely, positively that simple. It's real "women's" sports or it isn't.
 
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If the USMNT played the USWNT they would beat them 100% of the time........... Why do you think that is?

Chance? Luck?
 
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Women don't run as fast as the men in Olympic events because they aren't trying as hard!
 
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KB5252 said:
If the USMNT played the USWNT they would beat them 100% of the time........... Why do you think that is?

Chance? Luck?
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A trans woman playing women's soccer isn't the USMNT (and if it is, since I assume trans women have played soccer, that superstar trans soccer player should have emerged already). IMO you are better than acting like trans women in sports are just men who claim to be women and don't do anything else
 
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NashVol11 said:
If it is a unicorn then the pearl-clutching and "emergency" was mostly fake
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If men have an athletic advantage over women they do not bring in women's sports. No one is Pearl clutching but those upset we are keeping men out of women's spaces.
 
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NashVol11 said:
A trans woman playing women's soccer isn't the USMNT (and if it is, since I assume trans women have played soccer, that superstar trans soccer player should have emerged already). IMO you are better than acting like trans women in sports are just men who claim to be women and don't do anything else
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That's not the way science works.
 
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NashVol11 said:
So the answer then is that it doesn't exist except in a hypothetical future, but we needed federal government intervention anyway
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No, we didn't need the federal government to intervene, we just needed people in the various sports with a little common sense to step up and say F-NO the the stupidity of men playing in womens sports.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Katie Ledecky, a biological woman, beat Lia's time by nearly 10 full seconds as a college swimmer
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He was a very below average male swimmer who won the women’s division. Several canadian women’s power lifting records are held by men.
 
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