The Problems with Trans-ideology

[CobbVol]

Absolutely, the fact that a 4.65/1590 Asian student didn't get into a school with a 4% acceptance rate while a 4.1/1510 Black student did is not proof of discrimination at any school you want to talk about. I know people have heard of college essays and interviews and extracurriculars before

What school and student did these come from?

 

[85SugarVol]

"Other institutions" that are also largely SAT-blind or don't ask for them and have like 1% acceptance rates. This 18 year old is entitled as hell

He could be entitled as hell.

His quantitative credentials should be easy to cross reference.
His qualitative credentials aren’t so cut and dry.

“Leadership” is completely subjective, and can be used to exclude or include.
Extra curriculars are similar - which ones count, which ones count more.

 

[NashVol11]

Because avoiding the obvious is your style. Rather than saying the truth “they’re using subjective standards to meet their own equity initiative and I support that”, you hide and dance around the facts. It’s pathetic. To this point you’ve still not answered the question

Your inability to comprehend answers isn't avoidance lol. The fact that you see high numbers and can't comprehend "how he's not being denied due to his ethnicity" is hilarious, and it could easily be that you think it's "obvious" because your critical thinking skills fail you on a bunch of other anecdotal examples just like they did right here

 

[NashVol11]

He could be entitled as hell.

His quantitative credentials should be easy to cross reference.
His qualitative credentials aren’t so cut and dry.

“Leadership” is completely subjective, and can be used to exclude or include.
Extra curriculars are similar - which ones count, which ones count more.

People with 1500+ SAT scores and high GPAs get rejected from Harvard all the time, they get tens of thousands of applicants and accept 4% of them (to say nothing of the people that don't bother applying). Harvard also interviews nearly every candidate, at least when I applied. He is entitled as hell

 

[CobbVol]

Below is the U. Michigan Selection Index. Wonder if he was up against something similar as this? Is this what systemic racism looks like?

 

[NashVol11]

There is no magic number that gets you into a school like this. I realized that by age 17 and some of y'all still haven't

 

[Orangeburst]

Well apparently AA is on the menu today. You can argue all day long that it isn't relevant and look like an idiot.

 

[85SugarVol]

People with 1500+ SAT scores and high GPAs get rejected from Harvard all the time, they get tens of thousands of applicants and accept 4% of them (to say nothing of the people that don't bother applying). Harvard also interviews nearly every candidate, at least when I applied. He is entitled as hell

Sure. Harvard is hard to get into.

I admittedly don’t know where 1590 & 4.65 slots in at Harvard. Maybe that’s not good enough.

But it wasn’t just Harvard, right?

Did this guy get “soft scored” out at the other institutions as well? I don’t know.

But Asian Americans have been complaining for a while that they get dinged there in favor of other groups - and that the scoring is incredibly subjective.

 

[Vol8188]

Your inability to comprehend answers isn't avoidance lol. The fact that you see high numbers and can't comprehend "how he's not being denied due to his ethnicity" is hilarious, and it could easily be that you think it's "obvious" because your critical thinking skills fail you on a bunch of other anecdotal examples just like they did right here

Then directly answer this:

If an Asian student scores higher in all areas (community service, essays, etc) than a black or white student, is the Asian student admitted?

If not, then it would seem they’re being held to a different standard

 

[Vol8188]

Sure. Harvard is hard to get into.

I admittedly don’t know where 1590 & 4.65 slots in at Harvard. Maybe that’s not good enough.

But it wasn’t just Harvard, right?

Did this guy get “soft scored” out at the other institutions as well? I don’t know.

But Asian Americans have been complaining for a while that they get dinged there in favor of other groups - and that the scoring is incredibly subjective.

The subjectivity is by design too and 100% what Nash supports. But he’d rather beat around the bush than just be upfront and honest

 

[NashVol11]

Sure. Harvard is hard to get into.

I admittedly don’t know where 1590 & 4.65 slots in at Harvard. Maybe that’s not good enough.

But it wasn’t just Harvard, right?

Did this guy get “soft scored” out at the other institutions as well? I don’t know.

But Asian Americans have been complaining for a while that they get dinged there in favor of other groups - and that the scoring is incredibly subjective.

MIT, Caltech, Princeton are just as hard as Harvard, and Berkeley from out of state is not far off. Carnegie Mellon is a step down but I didn't get into UCLA with a 1570 as a Black person, it happens.

In terms of getting dinged in favor of other groups, I would argue that the below is a better place to start, rather than essentially arguing that 6.5% Black students is too many:

 

[NashVol11]

The subjectivity is by design too and 100% what Nash supports. But he’d rather beat around the bush than just be upfront and honest

I've always been good at standardized tests, I like objectivity. We've moved away from requiring standardized tests, but more because they weren't predictive enough and rich people were spending a ton on practice.

If by "objectivity" you're arguing that admissions should just be GPA + SAT with no consideration of writing ability, extracurriculars, personality or what a student may bring to the school besides being a generic smart person (or, by the way, how tough the high school that yielded that GPA actually was), I think probably every admissions officer in the country would laugh at that idea

 

[Vol8188]

I've always been good at standardized tests, I like objectivity. We've moved away from requiring standardized tests, but more because they weren't predictive enough and rich people were spending a ton on practice.

If by "objectivity" you're arguing that admissions should just be GPA + SAT with no consideration of writing ability, extracurriculars, personality or what a student may bring to the school besides being a generic smart person (or, by the way, how tough the high school that yielded that GPA actually was), I think probably every admissions officer in the country would laugh at that idea

Props for a straight answer this time. Writing ability can be scored in a less subjective manner by things like an SAT (never taken it but my understanding is you receive a grade for writing also). I don’t personally have an issue with the use of some subjective measures. I do have an issue with what this lawsuit seems directed at.

The idea of placing students into ethnic buckets that have different requirements based on ethnic background. And based on the data, it does seem to be happening; and subjective standards are being used to hide that.

Is that something you support?

 

[NashVol11]

Props for a straight answer this time. Writing ability can be scored in a less subjective manner by things like an SAT (never taken it but my understanding is you receive a grade for writing also). I don’t personally have an issue with the use of some subjective measures. I do have an issue with what this lawsuit seems directed at.

The idea of placing students into ethnic buckets that have different requirements based on ethnic background. And based on the data, it does seem to be happening; and subjective standards are being used to hide that.

Is that something you support?

There used to be an essay section on the SAT for a few years, which is why the total was 2400 instead of 1600 for a while, but they discontinued it. I can see it having some value but it's also a little different because it's timed, and you can learn something from what an applicant chooses to highlight in a personal statement and how they talk about themselves.

I don't think Asians should be held to a higher standard, no. I think that gets "claimed" by rejected applicants far (far) more often than it actually happens, though.

And to the degree spaces were taken up by "undeserving" applicants especially at top schools, legacy students were probably far more of a roadblock for him

 

[Vol8188]

Showed up for his law school interview high, cursed at professors, sent absurd emails to all staff/students, mocked a professor for being a “yt” woman (white) in emails to the student body, and received backing in her attacks on professors from the black law student’s association

‘Schizophrenic’ Transgender Student Terrorized Top Law School, Ranted About ‘Gavel Dildos,’ Sex With ‘Trumpies’ In His Own Law Journal


‘Schizophrenic’ Transgender Student Terrorized Top Law School, Ranted About ‘Gavel Dildos,’ Sex With ‘Trumpies’ In His Own Law Journal | The Daily Wire

 

[Vol8188]

There used to be an essay section on the SAT for a few years, which is why the total was 2400 instead of 1600 for a while, but they discontinued it. I can see it having some value but it's also a little different because it's timed, and you can learn something from what an applicant chooses to highlight in a personal statement and how they talk about themselves.

I don't think Asians should be held to a higher standard, no. I think that gets "claimed" by rejected applicants far (far) more often than it actually happens, though.

And to the degree spaces were taken up by "undeserving" applicants especially at top schools, legacy students were probably far more of a roadblock for him

If legacy students average admission scores (Sat, act, or gpa) are constantly below that of the general student body, I would agree. I’ve not seen the data to know as a fact, but I find it likely.

I’m pretty sure (I’d have to look for it) I’ve seen data showing Ivy League (may have been Harvard specific) average admission scores for Asian studies are consistently/significantly higher than those for white or black students. If true, it would seem more likely to me that the school is discriminating in the name of equity than the idea that Asians on average are doing less community service or falling short in one of the more subjective categories on a routine basis.

 

[allvol123]

Showed up for his law school interview high, cursed at professors, sent absurd emails to all staff/students, mocked a professor for being a “yt” woman (white) in emails to the student body, and received backing in her attacks on professors from the black law student’s association

‘Schizophrenic’ Transgender Student Terrorized Top Law School, Ranted About ‘Gavel Dildos,’ Sex With ‘Trumpies’ In His Own Law Journal


‘Schizophrenic’ Transgender Student Terrorized Top Law School, Ranted About ‘Gavel Dildos,’ Sex With ‘Trumpies’ In His Own Law Journal | The Daily Wire

Wtf.

 

[Orangeburst]

Below is the U. Michigan Selection Index. Wonder if he was up against something similar as this? Is this what systemic racism looks like?

So 20 points for a minority is worth a full grade or even the full value of the SAT? Wow.

 

[85SugarVol]

MIT, Caltech, Princeton are just as hard as Harvard, and Berkeley from out of state is not far off. Carnegie Mellon is a step down but I didn't get into UCLA with a 1570 as a Black person, it happens.

In terms of getting dinged in favor of other groups, I would argue that the below is a better place to start, rather than essentially arguing that 6.5% Black students is too many:

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So you say Asian Americans do get dinged in favor of other groups.

But they shouldn’t worry about the black students being elevated above them based on soft scores.
They should be worried about the legacy students being elevated above them based on blood lines.

Not sure the Asian Americans will agree with that. But ok.

What are the quantitative credentials of the average legacy admission?

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Wisconsin county considers Sanctuary Status for Transgender Kids

Dane County, Wisconsin, resolution says kids' access to gender transition Drugs and Procedures is 'fundamental right'

A Wisconsin county is considering a resolution declaring sanctuary status for self-identified "transgender and nonbinary individuals," including children.

Board supervisors in Dane County, which includes the state capital of Madison, will vote on a resolution "declaring Dane County a sanctuary for trans and nonbinary individuals," at the county board meeting this Thursday after it was referred to the executive committee earlier this month.

The resolution states the county’s position that it’s a "fundamental right" for children to access sex-reassignment drugs and procedures.

Wisconsin county considers sanctuary status for transgender kids

 

[Orangeburst]

Wisconsin county considers Sanctuary Status for Transgender Kids

Dane County, Wisconsin, resolution says kids' access to gender transition Drugs and Procedures is 'fundamental right'

A Wisconsin county is considering a resolution declaring sanctuary status for self-identified "transgender and nonbinary individuals," including children.

Board supervisors in Dane County, which includes the state capital of Madison, will vote on a resolution "declaring Dane County a sanctuary for trans and nonbinary individuals," at the county board meeting this Thursday after it was referred to the executive committee earlier this month.

The resolution states the county’s position that it’s a "fundamental right" for children to access sex-reassignment drugs and procedures.

Wisconsin county considers sanctuary status for transgender kids

Sick bastards

 

[VolStrom]

Wisconsin county considers Sanctuary Status for Transgender Kids

Dane County, Wisconsin, resolution says kids' access to gender transition Drugs and Procedures is 'fundamental right'

A Wisconsin county is considering a resolution declaring sanctuary status for self-identified "transgender and nonbinary individuals," including children.

Board supervisors in Dane County, which includes the state capital of Madison, will vote on a resolution "declaring Dane County a sanctuary for trans and nonbinary individuals," at the county board meeting this Thursday after it was referred to the executive committee earlier this month.

The resolution states the county’s position that it’s a "fundamental right" for children to access sex-reassignment drugs and procedures.

Wisconsin county considers sanctuary status for transgender kids

If a mother doesn't care anymore for their child than to let them mutilate themselves, just throw them in jail for child abuse.

 

[85SugarVol]

Showed up for his law school interview high, cursed at professors, sent absurd emails to all staff/students, mocked a professor for being a “yt” woman (white) in emails to the student body, and received backing in her attacks on professors from the black law student’s association

‘Schizophrenic’ Transgender Student Terrorized Top Law School, Ranted About ‘Gavel Dildos,’ Sex With ‘Trumpies’ In His Own Law Journal


‘Schizophrenic’ Transgender Student Terrorized Top Law School, Ranted About ‘Gavel Dildos,’ Sex With ‘Trumpies’ In His Own Law Journal | The Daily Wire

Well that was a fun read.

I wonder what her LSAT and GPA were?!

 

[allvol123]

Wisconsin county considers Sanctuary Status for Transgender Kids

Dane County, Wisconsin, resolution says kids' access to gender transition Drugs and Procedures is 'fundamental right'

A Wisconsin county is considering a resolution declaring sanctuary status for self-identified "transgender and nonbinary individuals," including children.

Board supervisors in Dane County, which includes the state capital of Madison, will vote on a resolution "declaring Dane County a sanctuary for trans and nonbinary individuals," at the county board meeting this Thursday after it was referred to the executive committee earlier this month.

The resolution states the county’s position that it’s a "fundamental right" for children to access sex-reassignment drugs and procedures.

Wisconsin county considers sanctuary status for transgender kids

VN repeats, no one is for this.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Dylan Mulvaney Poses with Kellogg’s Tony the Tiger at Tony Awards

Transgender TikTok star Dylan Mulvaney had a “grrreat” night at the 76th Tony Awards on Sunday where he posed alongside none other than Kellogg’s mascot Tony the Tiger, who children would recognize as the Frosted Flakes cereal character.

Dylan Mulvaney Poses with Kellogg's Tony the Tiger at Tony Awards