The Problem of Whiteness

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I can't believe you actually buy the "they came before Columbus" garbage. You know they believe slave ships never existed because black people were already here right?

Have I ever denied the trans-atlantic slave trade? No. There is plenty of historical evidence for it. But there is also plenty of historical evidence for the presence of Africans in The Americas before Columbus. From archaelogical evidence like the Olmec heads to written accounts from European explorers.

I don't know who these people you speak of are or could care less.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

It amazes me that anyone buys the lies of Afrocentrism.

The Bible and the works of Greek historian Herodotus are not "lies of Afrocentrism". They are called historical evidence.

It amazes me that people afflicted with white supremacy are so deluded by racist ideology that it causes them to call the Bible and white European historians like Herodotus "lies of Afrocentrism".

 

[Vol8188]

Have I ever denied the trans-atlantic slave trade? No. There is plenty of historical evidence for it. But there is also plenty of historical evidence for the presence of Africans in The Americas before Columbus. From archaelogical evidence like the Olmec heads to written accounts from European explorers.

I don't know who these people you speak of are or could care less.

There's really not any evidence. It's considered pseudo science and they came before Columbus is always ridiculed by serious archeologists. It's all simply false.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

afro-Asiatic? are u just making up words?

asian-afros

I didn't make it up. Its an actual term for one of the largest family groups of languages. I personally find the name stupid. They should have just be called it the African family of languages because all but Hebrew and Arabic are spoken exclusively in Africa.

White linguists however didn't want to group Arabic and Hebrew fully in Africa among black Africans languages because it would unsettle the doctrine of white supremacy so they created the term "Afro-Asiatic" to house African languages spoken by black people like Hausa (spoken in Nigeria) and Oromo (spoken in Ethiopia) along with Arabic and Hebrew.

The linguistics is clear. Arabic and Hebrew are brother languages of African languages like Oromo and Hausa.

 

[Vol8188]

The Bible and the works of Greek historian Herodotus are not "lies of Afrocentrism". They are called historical evidence.

It amazes me that people afflicted with white supremacy are so deluded by racist ideology that it causes them to call the Bible and white European historians like Herodotus "lies of Afrocentrism".

Lol are you claiming the Bible says blacks were in America and that the Olmec were black people or that slave ships never existed?

Seriously try reading some of the critics of Afrocentrism sometime. Since you believe I only object to it because of my skin color (which is a racist belief on your part), start with the black professors who reject Afrocentrism. Clarence Walker of California would be a good place to start. It's pseudo science, fantasy, with zero historical evidence.

 

[volprof]

Good god.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Ancient Egypt was highly advanced for the time, what the hell happened?

They were conquered by many different peoples. From the Hyskos to the Greeks to the Romans and finally the Arabs. Each group also changed the face of the region little by little.

Its similar to what happened to the Ancient civilizations of the Americas like the Aztecs and Incas after being conquered by the Spanish. And the influx of European migrants and importation of African slaves changed the face of the region.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Islam

The fall of Ancient Egypt started way before Islam.

That was just the final blow.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

The Bible isn't clear about the ham being the father of the black race. Martin Luther King referred to claims that black people came from ham as both blasphemous and bigoted because of the so called Curse of Ham. So no. The Bible doesn't say that.

First of all the biblical controversy isn't over whether or not Ham is the father of the black race. That part is not disputed. The dispute is over who Noah cursed. Ham or his son Canaan. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham

The white supremacists during slavery tried to justify slavery by claiming Noah cursed Ham and all his progeny (aka all black people). The other theologians disagreed and said Noah only cursed Canaan (just one of Ham's sons) not all of Ham's sons (aka all black people).

Regardless of how you want to interpret the story of Ham, the bible is clear in grouping Ancient Egypt (Mizraim) with Ancient Ethiopia (Kush).

Kinda hard for Ancient Egypt and Ancient Ethiopia to be brothers if they both weren't black.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

So white people should get reparations too?

They aren't white anymore.

They are North Africans. Algerians, Tunisians, Moroccans, etc.

The difference between almost every other type of slavery and American slavery is the slaves were eventually mixed into the larger society so that nobody remembers who was a slave or who wasn't.

America was just different in that it kept the divisions based on race so that the effects of the injustice continued.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

There's really not any evidence. It's considered pseudo science and they came before Columbus is always ridiculed by serious archeologists. It's all simply false.

LOL @ "serious archeologists". I think you mean white supremacists.

Google "Olmec heads" and look at them. So you deny those are black people?

I don't need an archeologist to tell me what a black man looks like. Those are gigantic black heads that were found in Central America. In fact the features are super negroid with extremely wide noses, thick lips, and kinky hair. No confusing them with anyone else.

White supremacy just can't fathom black people came to the Americas before Europeans so they refuse to believe evidence stating right at them.

 

[Vol8188]

LOL @ "serious archeologists". I think you mean white supremacists.

Google "Olmec heads" and look at them. So you deny those are black people?

I don't need an archeologist to tell me what a black man looks like. Those are gigantic black heads that were found in Central America. In fact the features are super negroid with extremely wide noses, thick lips, and kinky hair. No confusing them with anyone else.

White supremacy just can't fathom black people came to the Americas before Europeans so they refuse to believe evidence stating right at them.

Even the black archeologists who disagree with? They're white supremacists too?

If you disagree D4H you're a white supremacist. Because he's never wrong

 

[SergeantVol]

Who said anything about Romanians or Romans?

Gypsies! You know for all you academic research that professes the supremacy of whites, you sure do not know anything.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Lol are you claiming the Bible says blacks were in America and that the Olmec were black people or that slave ships never existed?

Seriously try reading some of the critics of Afrocentrism sometime. Since you believe I only object to it because of my skin color (which is a racist belief on your part), start with the black professors who reject Afrocentrism. Clarence Walker of California would be a good place to start. It's pseudo science, fantasy, with zero historical evidence.

Never said the bible supports the presence of Africans in the Americas before Columbus. The Olmec heads support that assertion in and of themselves. I cited the bible to support the argument that the Ancient Egyptians and Hebrews were black.

And FYI there are many black soldiers of white supremacy so you citing some black professors who will support the narrative of white supremacy isn't surprising to me. Its expected.

 

[Vol8188]

First of all the biblical controversy isn't over whether or not Ham is the father of the black race. That part is not disputed. The dispute is over who Noah cursed. Ham or his son Canaan. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham

The white supremacists during slavery tried to justify slavery by claiming Noah cursed Ham and all his progeny (aka all black people). The other theologians disagreed and said Noah only cursed Canaan (just one of Ham's sons) not all of Ham's sons (aka all black people).

Regardless of how you want to interpret the story of Ham, the bible is clear in grouping Ancient Egypt (Mizraim) with Ancient Ethiopia (Kush).

Kinda hard for Ancient Egypt and Ancient Ethiopia to be brothers if they both weren't black.

Next time you post a link, try reading it first.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Even the black archeologists who disagree with? They're white supremacists too?

If you disagree D4H you're a white supremacist. Because he's never wrong

Those "black archeologists" have to tow the company line if they want to keep their jobs. Its how white supremacy keeps the negroes they give a few crumbs to in line.

There are many black intellectuals that disagree with those "black archeologists". The most pertinent being the late Ivan Van Sertima. A hero of mine.

 

[Vol8188]

Never said the bible supports the presence of Africans in the Americas before Columbus. The Olmec heads support that assertion in and of themselves. I cited the bible to support the argument that the Ancient Egyptians and Hebrews were black.

And FYI there are many black soldiers of white supremacy so you citing some black professors who will support the narrative of white supremacy isn't surprising to me. Its expected.

Outside of the guy who wrote they came before Columbus, no one takes any the stuff you're claiming serious. Not because of some vast white supremacy conspiracy, but because it's simply not true

 

[Orange_Crush]

LOL @ "serious archeologists". I think you mean white supremacists.

Google "Olmec heads" and look at them. So you deny those are black people?

I don't need an archeologist to tell me what a black man looks like. Those are gigantic black heads that were found in Central America. In fact the features are super negroid with extremely wide noses, thick lips, and kinky hair. No confusing them with anyone else.

White supremacy just can't fathom black people came to the Americas before Europeans so they refuse to believe evidence stating right at them.

You see what you want to see.

Although the physionomy of the sculptures has given rise to unfounded speculation of contact with civilizations from Africa, in fact, the physical features common to the heads are still seen today in residents of the modern Mexican cities of Tabasco and Veracruz.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Next time you post a link, try reading it first.

Ham is still the father of Kush and Mizraim. Kush is the Ancient name for Ethiopia. Mizraim is the Ancient name for Egypt. Try and squirm your way out of that one.

And I find it funny that white supremacists had no problem believing Ham was black for centuries as long as it justified slavery. But now that Ham also supports the argument the Ancient Egyptians were black, white supremacists are denying Ham and his progeny were ever black.

Its funny to me to see how white supremacists contradict themselves.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Those "black archeologists" have to tow the company line if they want to keep their jobs. Its how white supremacy keeps the negroes they give a few crumbs to in line.

There are many black intellectuals that disagree with those "black archeologists". The most pertinent being the late Ivan Van Sertima. A hero of mine.

Your excuse for everything is racism and white supremacy. Grow up and stop using that as a crutch in your life I think you'll find yourself much happier.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Outside of the guy who wrote they came before Columbus, no one takes any the stuff you're claiming serious. Not because of some vast white supremacy conspiracy, but because it's simply not true

Who do the Olmec heads look like then?

I don't need a white person to tell me that is a black man's face and features.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Ham is still the father of Kush and Mizraim. Kush is the Ancient name for Ethiopia. Mizraim is the Ancient name for Egypt. Try and squirm your way out of that one.

And I find it funny that white supremacists had no problem believing Ham was black for centuries as long as it justified slavery. But now that Ham also supports the argument the Ancient Egyptians were black, white supremacists are denying Ham and his progeny were ever black.

Its funny to me to see how white supremacists contradict themselves.

White supremacy, white supremacy, white supremacy how many times can you say this? I think you're a racist bigot.

 

[tumscalcium]

Who do the Olmec heads look like then?

I don't need a white person to tell me that is a black man's face and features.

The world has way more than white and black people.


Malcolm X is laughing at you from beyond the grave.

 

[SergeantVol]

White supremacy, white supremacy, white supremacy how many times can you say this? I think you're a racist bigot.

He won't even recognize that other minorities are oppressed! He is a black supremacist!!!

 

[Vol8188]

Those "black archeologists" have to tow the company line if they want to keep their jobs. Its how white supremacy keeps the negroes they give a few crumbs to in line.

There are many black intellectuals that disagree with those "black archeologists". The most pertinent being the late Ivan Van Sertima. A hero of mine.

He's literally the only one who believes the bs you're spewing because he literally wrote the book you continually reference. The book that was 100% wrong.