The pressure to commit=more decommitments

#27
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BruinVol said:
This thinking isn't fair anymore IMO. Think of it this way.

You interview for a job and its offered to you but you are told you have to accept immediately before leaving to talk to your family face to face about it.


Under that kind of pressure people change their minds and IMO its well within their right.
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This is a great comparison but it goes against your argument. These kids have time to consider their offers, but at some point, they need to decide or they will get passed up. Quite frankly, they are learning life skills as an 18 year old. This is very real world stuff, and that's not a bad thing.
 
#28
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BruinVol said:
This thinking isn't fair anymore IMO. Think of it this way.

You interview for a job and its offered to you but you are told you have to accept immediately before leaving to talk to your family face to face about it.


Under that kind of pressure people change their minds and IMO its well within their right.
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Well said, sir!!
 
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VolGee4 said:
This is a great comparison but it goes against your argument. These kids have time to consider their offers, but at some point, they need to decide or they will get passed up..
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How long do you think a fringy(3star) kind of player is given to decide on average??

IMO schools put the pressure on to beat the hometown school to the punch. They press for a quick decision to keep schools they can't beat away
 
#31
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BruinVol said:
How long do you think a fringy(3star) kind of player is given to decide on average??
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Usually until the position is full. If the staff would take a commitment from him, he would be an option until the staff filled the spot(ie:3LBs, 4WRs, or whatever).
 
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BruinVol said:
With the pace of recruiting changing before our very eyes we better sit back and get ready for many more kids changing their minds nationwide than ever before.


Many schools are already very close to being full and with that many kids are making decisions before they really want due to the pressure of spots disappearing.


In years past I think some of the anger toward kids changing their minds has been warranted but not now. If a kid is pressured into a commitment before they have even started their Sr year of hs then they deserve no criticism from our fan base or any other schools.
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what is your thought about John Adams opinion on the subject..... not your opinion of John Adams as a writer just on this subject

John Adams: College football needs to kick national signing date out of game » GoVolsXtra
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Usually until the position is full. If the staff would take a commitment from him, he would be an option until the staff filled the spot(ie:3LBs, 4WRs, or whatever).
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Which adds more pressure to decide quickly. In this case a coach is saying to a kid we have 4 offers out for one more spot. The first that jumps gets it and the rest are out. That's the kind of pressure I am taking about
 
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Coastypop said:
That may work as well, but I do believe (just like the NCAA championship)....what we are doing now does not work
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I see both sides. The sooner a kid can sign the more times a kid will ask out of their NLI IMO. The longer they wait the more sure they become of their decision.
 
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We might lose 5 or 6 more before its NSD, 4 or 5 always flip but this time when they flip be ready to flop a big DT in his place and we will be alright in VOL LAND.
 
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terrypedigo said:
We might lose 5 or 6 more before its NSD, 4 or 5 always flip but this time when they flip be ready to flop a big DT in his place and we will be alright in VOL LAND.
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Vol8188 said:
We've only had two decommit. Lets not freak out jut yet.

Yeah, but if memory serves, the first commit to de-commit de-commited after the one who just decommited commited. So, after noting that, I think I deserve this opportunity to freak out and get committed.
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BruinVol said:
How long do you think a fringy(3star) kind of player is given to decide on average??

IMO schools put the pressure on to beat the hometown school to the punch. They press for a quick decision to keep schools they can't beat away
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Not sure what is wrong with this. If the kid wants a hometown offer, then maybe he waits. But at some point, he has to decide. This is exactly like having 2 companies interested in you, and one says that we must know by a certain day because we have others interested. Some hold out for the job they want. This is real world stuff.
 
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Cyclopskiller said:
Commitment is a strong word, and some people don't know how to embrace it. And so they were never "committed" in the first place, if that makes Cents!
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They really need to change the wording of all this to be honest. If you think about it, it's really backwards the way it is right now. When a kid verbally tells a school that he is going to play for that school, considering that kid could change his mind at any time, that should be called a "verbal intent." When a kid turns in the signed papers, that's a done deal (except in rare cases) and it should be called a "letter of commitment."
 
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Such is life. Sometimes you make decisions quickly and they are the right ones. Sometimes wrong. Sometimes you need to be patient.
Personally, I prefer to go with gut feeling and roll with what happens. And to add what my dad said to me when I was young, "if a train comes and you are thinking about getting on, do it, because you can always come back home and you don't know when another train will come."
 
#45
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VolGee4 said:
Not sure what is wrong with this. If the kid wants a hometown offer, then maybe he waits. But at some point, he has to decide. This is exactly like having 2 companies interested in you, and one says that we must know by a certain day because we have others interested. Some hold out for the job they want. This is real world stuff.
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I am not saying there is anything wrong with it just discussing the result of it. More kids will change there mind just like in the real world when people take a job under pressure only to take another dream job shortly after. Part of the landscape of this earlier recruiting process we have.
 
#46
#46
Things change:

TN might sign a person better than you at a position so you decommit because you have a better chance to start somewhere else. Conversely, if someone goes pro early, you may switch to that school.

Family could be another reason, or a girlfriend/ex.

Maybe a recruit doesn't want to go through the rigors of CBJ practices. Maybe they want to cruise by on raw talent.

It could be a coaching style: 4-3, 3-4, 4-2-5, pro, pistol, spread, wishbone, etc.

Maybe it was a baywatch or 48 hours Miami episode, gay/lesbo marriage, weed laws/enforcement, weather, change in academic major (seriously).

As for Powell, at least he is giving CBJ ample time to find a replacement.
 
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BruinVol said:
I am not saying there is anything wrong with it just discussing the result of it. More kids will change there mind just like in the real world when people take a job under pressure only to take another dream job shortly after. Part of the landscape of this earlier recruiting process we have.
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Only if that "dream job" is still available. Alot of times people move on.
 
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