The Petition

#51
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Tux said:
Disagree.

While I am happy with what Donnie Tyndall is doing, there is a right way and wrong way to handle things.

The Tennessee fans who signed the petition did the wrong thing.

Martin was going to leave after this season no matter what. He was not happy how contract negotiations went last year and was out of here no matter what.

The petition made UT fans look like hillbilly racists in the eyes of the media and they are pushing that narrative hard.

The right thing was to sit back and let things take their natural course, as all other schools with class do.
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Look man I know you are a respected poster n blah blah blah.....but this post makes u look silly imo....I think people signed the petition because they wanted bruce pearl back and thought the petition would help expedite the process....and that makes them a racist?....to replace a black guy with another black guy? Not really getting your train of thought...people signed the petition because they want to win again...thats it....just win baby!!!! GBO!!!
 
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TennesseeStudVOL said:
I think people signed the petition because they wanted bruce pearl back and thought the petition would help expedite the process....and that makes them a racist?....to replace a black guy with another black guy?
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Who is the other black guy in your scenario, Pearl or Tyndall?
 
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Petition was a non story that media made into a story. Many in media no longer report the news, instead they want to make the news.
 
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Why is it so hard for people to just drop this ;&@)(;) petition crap? It had no relevance one way or the other. 20 people signed the thing, and thousands more signed to see who signed. If anyone looked at that "petition" and generalized UT fans as racist hillbillies, then they are misinformed pudder necks that have no sense.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think the logistics of his departure were a definite win-win. He gets out of a place he doesn't want to be at any longer, and he's replaced with a guy, who by all appearances, would have crawled to Knoxville on his hands and knees (a little hyperbole).

I will agree that the way the divorce was portrayed by media and the effects of the petition to the reputation of our fanbase was poorly constructed. In that sense, we definitely lost from an image perspective.

Winning cures all though. If CDT wins, and CCM is happy making less money in Berkeley, it's a win-winin the end.
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Yes it does hurt our rep some but that will go away with the next Espn headline..... I am cautiously optimistic that CDT is the guy for the job. From all the evidence it's obvious CCM wasn't....no matter if CDT is the man or not....staying with a coach half-a&sing it on the recruiting trail is not the way to go.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Who is the other black guy in your scenario, Pearl or Tyndall?
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Nobody should ever start throwing around racial comments unless they are sure that is the reason. My favorite coach right now is black in Mike Tomlin.....race had no effect on my opinion of CCM unless not being a fan of the keady coaching tree is also considered racist.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Would you at least admit that's a pretty big assumption to say he's better? In no way do I dislike Tyndall, but there's just no way to prove that Tyndall is a better UT coach than Martin was at this point.
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I don't think its even a medium size assumption.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Nobody should ever start throwing around racial comments unless they are sure that is the reason. My favorite coach right now is black in Mike Tomlin.....race had no effect on my opinion of CCM unless not being a fan of the keady coaching tree is also considered racist.
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My post was a joke. Re-read the post I referenced, and it reads as if the OP believed that Bruce Pearl or Donnie Tyndall was African-American.
 
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cncchris33 said:
My post was a joke. Re-read the post I referenced, and it reads as if the OP believed that Bruce Pearl or Donnie Tyndall was African-American.
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Ok wasn't following too close....waiting to go to dolly wood on a field trip lol
 
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Tux said:
Disagree.

While I am happy with what Donnie Tyndall is doing, there is a right way and wrong way to handle things.

The Tennessee fans who signed the petition did the wrong thing.

Martin was going to leave after this season no matter what. He was not happy how contract negotiations went last year and was out of here no matter what.

The petition made UT fans look like hillbilly racists in the eyes of the media and they are pushing that narrative hard.
The right thing was to sit back and let things take their natural course, as all other schools with class do.
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This was the correct post until the racist part. I do not remember hearing the national media say that the UT fanbase was upset because Cuonzo was black. If people would let racism die it would die. I signed the petition (I do regret signing the petition, but hindsight is always 20/20) and it was 100% because of the performance on the floor and nothing else. Quit forcing race issues into problems that had nothing to do with race.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
... was the best possible thing that could have happened for UT basketball.

So far it helped yield the following.....

1. A sweet 16 appearance and nearly an Elite 8

2. Cuonzo Martin's departure

3. $1.3 million for Cuonzo to leave

4. Detrick Mostella (the first 4* player we've had since Jordan McRae and Trae Golden)

5. A rejuvenated fan base

6. Me renewing my season tickets

7. Hopefully a better signing class in 3 weeks than Zo recruited over 3 years

Unbelievable.

Whoever started that petition, I've got two words for you....... THANK YOU!!!!
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Ignorance. Made us the laughing stock of the sports world. Ever who started the petition are not vol fans.
 
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golf437 said:
Ignorance. Made us the laughing stock of the sports world. Ever who started the petition are not vol fans.
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You're too paranoid bro. I guess FireRonZook.com made Florida the laughing stock of the sports world too. Meanwhile, they hired Urban Meyer and added some hardware to their trophy room.

The petition is long gone from "the sports world" consciousness. Nobody outside of UT gives that thing any thought.
 
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golf437 said:
Ignorance. Made us the laughing stock of the sports world. Ever who started the petition are not vol fans.
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Let 'em laugh when the BB Vols start competing for championships. I didn't sign the petition, but hind sight tells me it greased the skids for CCM to go ahead and get his 5 year deal and take his mediocrity to Cal. If it got him out a year earlier, then that is good for UT. That is one season we don't have to watch another team underperform, listen to his false indignation about the fans while looking for the best ticket out. If we had CCM for another year he would be recruiting for his next gig, turning the players against the fans and UT while leaving the cupboard bear for the next year. All I can say is good riddance. Good for him he got his 5 year deal. UT got paid instead of paying for a buyout. The last laugh is going to be on the chirping media and our opponents.
 
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Tux said:
Disagree.

While I am happy with what Donnie Tyndall is doing, there is a right way and wrong way to handle things.

The Tennessee fans who signed the petition did the wrong thing.

Martin was going to leave after this season no matter what. He was not happy how contract negotiations went last year and was out of here no matter what.

The petition made UT fans look like hillbilly racists in the eyes of the media and they are pushing that narrative hard.

The right thing was to sit back and let things take their natural course, as all other schools with class do.
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I disagree. Martin even admitted it lit a fire in them, which doesn't speak well at all about his coaching. If anyone thinks we are hillbilly racist, they have a smaller mind than they're accusing us of! Martin never did anything to endure himself to UT or the fans. He was a bore & a sorry coach. Had he not quit he would have been fired after next year & we would have owed him millions for failing at his job! Good riddance, Cuonzo!
 
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Sure, I guess it helped the program in the long run. But at what cost? It made the fans looks like idiots and the program got really bad exposure in the media. As a result, you ended up getting a coach that wasn't your first or second choice. I think Tyndall is a good coach, don't get me wrong, but it's not like the petition was a good thing that cause good things to happen.
 
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LittleCat said:
Sure, I guess it helped the program in the long run. But at what cost? It made the fans looks like idiots and the program got really bad exposure in the media. As a result, you ended up getting a coach that wasn't your first or second choice. I think Tyndall is a good coach, don't get me wrong, but it's not like the petition was a good thing that cause good things to happen.
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Kinda like when you *****cats ran Tubby out of town, huh troll?
 
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OrangeBalls said:
You do realize that the petition was nothing more than a cut and paste of an article that Clay Travis wrote didn't you? He's the one that was yelling from the rooftop to rehire Pearl and fired off that column and someone took it and posted it as an online petition. He is a Pearl lover and hated Martin.
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This. I'm not excusing the petition one way or the other, but Clay Travis was the main media member that got all this going. He was calling for Martin's job ever since the Austin Peay loss (though he did backtrack a bit when they started winning after Stokes arrived). He constantly tweeted about bringing back Pearl, wrote at least 2-3 articles about it. He pushed the idea that UT beat "nobody" to make the Sweet 16. He even kept pushing that UT should buy out Pearl at Auburn.

And you can bet if Auburn beats UT next season and/or does better, he'll be all over that like he was with James Franklin.
 
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TennesseeStudVOL said:
Look man I know you are a respected poster n blah blah blah.....but this post makes u look silly imo....I think people signed the petition because they wanted bruce pearl back and thought the petition would help expedite the process....and that makes them a racist?....to replace a black guy with another black guy? Not really getting your train of thought...people signed the petition because they want to win again...thats it....just win baby!!!! GBO!!!
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Jews are black? :huh:
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
This. I'm not excusing the petition one way or the other, but Clay Travis was the main media member that got all this going. He was calling for Martin's job ever since the Austin Peay loss (though he did backtrack a bit when they started winning after Stokes arrived). He constantly tweeted about bringing back Pearl, wrote at least 2-3 articles about it. He pushed the idea that UT beat "nobody" to make the Sweet 16. He even kept pushing that UT should buy out Pearl at Auburn.

And you can bet if Auburn beats UT next season and/or does better, he'll be all over that like he was with James Franklin.
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Guaranteed. All he does is get buddy-buddy with them and then slurp them. Anyone with any clue should've known Pearl was never coming back.

If most people did a little research and saw that Travis was really the one who spearheaded it then they would know it for what it was. Yet another blowhard piece by Travis trying to stoke the mob mentality. I'm sure he smiled because it worked.
 
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