The One Thing That I Can't Get Out Of My Mind About The Passing Game

#76
#76
LookinUp said:
Uhhh, does everyone remember how poor ole Johnny 'Third Down' Chavis gave away game after game? How did that keep happening? He kept using the prevent defense to prevent us from winning. Same thing happened to us against BYU. Before they even snapped the ball on that play I said that I hoped we rushed six. No we didn't so there was time for the QB to drop back, drink a glass of iced tea, look at his fingernails and then unload a long pass. There is not time for the QB to do that if you will bring heat. There is much less chance of offensive success if you rush six and drop five verses going into a prevent. Have seen it time and time and time again watching football over 50 years. Anyone want to guess what will happen the next time we go into prevent??
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I like the aggressive idea of what you're saying when we are ahead in a typical 4th quarter situation. The scenario last Saturday was much different than those Chavis blown leads. BYU had the ball on their own 20 with 17 seconds to go, with no timeouts. This means ANY play, run/or pass that resulted in bounds and less than 50 yards would have been the end of the ballgame. A prevent call in that situation, to me, is the right call. The tragedy is how in the world does any LB, Nickel, DB, etc (anyone other than the 3 rushers) allow even just 1 person to run by them is mind boggling. Heck, even if we tackled the receiver when the ball was in the air, the penalty would have only been a 15 yarder (not at the spot of the foul like the NFL)...They would have had an extra play perhaps for a miracle attempt at an endzone shot, but there's still probably a 99% chance we win the game. How do we not have someone to make the tackle at the 50 yd line where he catches the ball. This obviously would have been the end of the game as well. In other words, it almost looked as if our team tried their best in every way to lose the game.
 
#77
#77
keenobserver said:
I like the aggressive idea of what you're saying when we are ahead in a typical 4th quarter situation. The scenario last Saturday was much different than those Chavis blown leads. BYU had the ball on their own 20 with 17 seconds to go, with no timeouts. This means ANY play, run/or pass that resulted in bounds and less than 50 yards would have been the end of the ballgame. A prevent call in that situation, to me, is the right call. The tragedy is how in the world does any LB, Nickel, DB, etc (anyone other than the 3 rushers) allow even just 1 person to run by them is mind boggling. Heck, even if we tackled the receiver when the ball was in the air, the penalty would have only been a 15 yarder (not at the spot of the foul like the NFL)...They would have had an extra play perhaps for a miracle attempt at an endzone shot, but there's still probably a 99% chance we win the game. How do we not have someone to make the tackle at the 50 yd line where he catches the ball. This obviously would have been the end of the game as well. In other words, it almost looked as if our team tried their best in every way to lose the game.
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Agreed. Right defensive call. Taylor creeps up on him before the ball was snapped, so he played out of position or thought they were in a different call or something. Blown coverage either way. Warrior's open field soft arm tackle attempt was horrible.
 
#78
#78
I’m sure someone has already mentioned this, but... There are some players who look fantastic in practice, but can’t take the same prowess to game day. Other guys are less than spectacular in practice, but are “gamers.” Surely there’s a QB on the sideline, regardless or age, that qualifies as such? And a legitimate question should be, “how will you know if you don’t give someone else a shot?” If we don’t have that guy(s) it sure seems we’re recruiting the wrong QBs. Just my opinion.
 
#83
#83
jctenn1 said:
need to ask Saban...
I am sure he knows...:D
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He needs to get used to the hot.........pretty sure I know who he sold his soul too and its NOT the same entity I've given my soul over too for eternity.
 
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volaholic333 said:
I’m sure someone has already mentioned this, but... There are some players who look fantastic in practice, but can’t take the same prowess to game day. Other guys are less than spectacular in practice, but are “gamers.” Surely there’s a QB on the sideline, regardless or age, that qualifies as such? And a legitimate question should be, “how will you know if you don’t give someone else a shot?” If we don’t have that guy(s) it sure seems we’re recruiting the wrong QBs. Just my opinion.
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This is absolutely spot on. I remember Josh Dobbs looked bad in practice. The problem is that JG will never score enough points that will allow the others a chance to get in. He'll probably turn UTC into a dog fight.
 
#86
#86
So, remind me again,







....which one is the "QB"???

The dude hiking the ball or the dude receiving the ball???

Ok, now, here's my opinion.....
 
#87
#87
Like a lot of people, I agree that JG is probably the best choice we have right now. And if we were 2-0 things might be different. But as of right now, JG has lost us 2 games this season that we were heavy favorites at home and hasn't lead an offense to a second half TD yet. So what do we have to lose giving one of the young guys a shot? It can't possibly bring us lower and win less than we already have? One of the few blessings of being in a situation like this is we have the opportunity to say "Might as well" and try to develop a young guy and give someone with a different skillset a shot. I don't know I'm just rambling and sick of watching JG react with the quarterback equivalent of dial up internet
 
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