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#377
#377
If there is no hell after death that would mean Jesus lied.. ie. Luke 16, Mark 9, Matt 9:32, Matt 25:30 .. to name a few… if Jesus lied about one thing he should not be trusted in anything… … as some have presumed that there is none I felt compelled to list these
 
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Coastypop said:
If there is no hell after death that would mean Jesus lied.. ie. Luke 16, Mark 9, Matt 9:32, Matt 25:30 .. to name a few… if Jesus lied about one thing he should not be trusted in anything… … as some have presumed that there is none I felt compelled to list these
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This is exactly right...
 
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Coastypop said:
If there is no hell after death that would mean Jesus lied.. ie. Luke 16, Mark 9, Matt 9:32, Matt 25:30 .. to name a few… if Jesus lied about one thing he should not be trusted in anything… … as some have presumed that there is none I felt compelled to list these
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Putting words in messiahs mouth is not a good idea
 
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Repent of your pride.
Leave the judgment to G-d and stop trying to scare the weak minded and children into a belief system that isn’t the love of the most high and isn’t saving faith.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Repent of your pride.
Leave the judgment to G-d and stop trying to scare the weak minded and children into a belief system that isn’t the love of the most high and isn’t saving faith.
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No one judged anyone I am simply sharing the text … you can choose whatever you like
 
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Coastypop said:
No one judged anyone I am simply sharing the text … you can choose whatever you like
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Again. false presentation doesn’t negate your pride.
I get you want people who disagree with you to burn but that’s not your call. Even if you twist scripture to say what you want it too.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Again. false presentation doesn’t negate your pride.
I get you want people who disagree with you to burn but that’s not your call. Even if you twist scripture to say what you want it too.
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I didn’t twist anything, I didn’t even add the words only the references for people to read.. and you are the one doing the judging, not once have I ever said I want anyone to burn… that is something you made up in your head
 
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Coastypop said:
I didn’t twist anything, I didn’t even add the words only the references for people to read.. and you are the one doing the judging, not once have I ever said I want anyone to burn… that is something you made up in your head
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You absolutely want people who disagree with you to burn for eternity. That’s what you guys do while having sex with goats behind the barn
 
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Jesus Christ said," Mark 9:42¶And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
43And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Luke 16:19¶ There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24¶And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27¶Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

That's what Jesus Christ said!
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You absolutely want people who disagree with you to burn for eternity. That’s what you guys do while having sex with goats behind the barn
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😂 @ sex with goats 🐐… you sure have an imagination…

What if you had cancer and I was a doctor and I knew it would kill you but I refused to tell you … would that mean I don’t want you to die or that I do… you analogy is weak
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Which denomination has the most goat sex?
I’m betting it’s the Baptist
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When you don’t have an answer you attack the person, very weak argument but often used by the Pharisees of Jesus time .. thanks for the laugh .. but you and I will disagree
 
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Coastypop said:
😂 @ sex with goats 🐐… you sure have an imagination…

What if you had cancer and I was a doctor and I knew it would kill you but I refused to tell you … would that mean I don’t want you to die or that I do… you analogy is weak
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You’re making up cancer to get people to take your snake oil Dr.

ya, you Baptist like the goats.
 
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Coastypop said:
When you don’t have an answer you attack the person, very weak argument but often used by the Pharisees of Jesus time .. thanks for the laugh .. but you and I will disagree
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Elaborate on my “Pharisees” argument.

Not that you understand what you are reading.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You’re making up cancer to get people to take your snake oil Dr.

ya, you Baptist like the goats.
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I’m not writing scripture, if I were then perhaps you would have a point but I’m simply reading and providing references.. either Jesus said these things or the New Testament is in error, if it is then don’t trust anything… it’s not about religion it’s about truth
 
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He also said,"Matthew 5:22 KJV — But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:29 KJV — And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 5:30 KJV — And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 11:23 KJV — And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
Matthew 10:28 KJV — And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 18:9 KJV — And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Matthew 23:15 KJV — Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 23:33 KJV — Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Luke 12:5 KJV — But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Revelation 20:13 KJV — And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."

Shall we continue?
 
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