The ofishal zone devotional thread!

[volfanbill]

easiest example: Jewish weddings almost exclusively served the fermented version. So perhaps Jesus' most famous miracle essentially immediately disproves your absurdity.

Passover also almost exclusively served the fermented version. And Jesus drank from the Cup...

want to continue?

 

[GordonC]

I think I've seen this movie before.

 

[volfanbill]

I'm too lazy right now to do it again and apparently you are too lazy to look it up. You probably piled on in that thread too.

further proof you can't. Or remember.

I never visit that place.

 

[BigO95]

easiest example: Jewish weddings almost exclusively served the fermented version. So perhaps Jesus' most famous miracle essentially immediately disproves your absurdity.

Passover also almost exclusively served the fermented version. And Jesus drank from the Cup...

want to continue?

Prove it

 

[NorCalVol67]

So what translation do you recommend?

So you admit your translation is misogynist?

 

[BigO95]

So you admit your translation is misogynist?

So are you trying to speak for me?

 

[volfanbill]

Prove it

it's literally Jewish tradition. Has been since the beginning.

 

[GordonC]

Because of the whole New Testament in Greek thing and because the Greeks grow a lot of olives, why does the non-fermented, non-alcoholic, "good" juice have to be grape juice?
What about olive juice?

 

[BigO95]

it's literally Jewish tradition. Has been since the beginning.

What resources did you get that from? Where's your proof?

 

[WestTennesseeFox]

With my God, I can use my God-given talent, intelligence, and leadership ability to further the Kingdom.

With your God, I have to be subservient, submissive, and a second rate citizen.

 

[volfanbill]

What resources did you get that from? Where's your proof?

The Jews. The orthodox community. Any biblical scholar. AKa not you, and your KJV bible

 

[GordonC]

In addition to the Pauline epistles, the Medieval church also casts long shadows.

 

[NorCalVol67]

So are you trying to speak for me?

No, it is difficult for me to sound so stupid when I am half sober.

 

[BigO95]

Because of the whole New Testament in Greek thing and because the Greeks grow a lot of olives, why does the non-fermented, non-alcoholic, "good" juice have to be grape juice?
What about olive juice?

It speaks of the fruit of the vine. Do olives grow on a Vine?

 

[GordonC]

@Orangeslice13

 

[GordonC]

It speaks of the fruit of the vine. Do olives grow on a Vine?

Do you read ancient Greek?
Edit: So as long as the apple cider has not turned hard, it is a good juice, even though it does not grow on a vine either?

 

[BigO95]

With my God, I can use my God-given talent, intelligence, and leadership ability to further the Kingdom.

With your God, I have to be subservient, submissive, and a second rate citizen.

I've got news for you, every Christian is to be submissive.

 

[BigO95]

The Jews. The orthodox community. Any biblical scholar. AKa not you, and your KJV bible

So your scholars are the only dependable ones? Got it

 

[BigO95]

Do you read ancient Greek?
Edit: So as long as the apple cider has not turned hard, it is a good juice, even though it does not grow on a vine either?

Do you?

 

[volfanbill]

So your scholars are the only dependable ones? Got it

yeah. My degree says so.

 

[BigO95]

No, it is difficult for me to sound so stupid when I am half sober.

And bless you too

 

[volfanbill]

it's cute to think that in a world with absolute minimal refrigeration and preservatoin techniques that it was only fresh grape juice all the time.

 

[volfanbill]

also cute that you're ignoring all my other returns to you.

 

[BigO95]

yeah. My degree says so.

I have two degrees, what does that matter?

 

[GordonC]

Do you?

Nope, yet I don't pretend to know the etymological distinctions in that language between trees and vines