The Official Texas A&M @ #1 Tennessee Series Thread (Fri. April 4 7PM EDT ESPNU) (Sat. April 5 Doubleheader SECNET+)

[txbo]

There's a big difference when opposing fans are heckling your kid and when people who are supposed to be there to support them are telling them they suck. Of course the players and parents expect to hear some unfriendly stuff in an opposing stadium, but when your own home crowd turns against you? Come on.

Tell me the difference.

 

[txbo]

I realize not everyone is this way, but I would also personally never attack the family of an opposing player, and I'm not going to yell super nasty stuff at an opposing player. A hornet's nest can be loud, boisterous, distracting, etc., and not be just downright a$$holes.

 

[darsinewman]

Tell me the difference.

I thought I just did. There are people you expect to hear trash talk from, and there are people you expect to support you. Like @preacherman20 said recently, it would be like your own parents telling you you're a piece of crap. I have no beef with you, @txbo, and generally enjoy reading your posts, but are you telling me that you see zero difference between an opposing fan telling your kid he sucks vs. someone who calls himself a "fan" of your kid's team? I mean, as a parent, I'm sure you don't want to hear anyone tell your kid he sucks, but you expect it from opposing fans. You don't think it stings exponentially worse when it's friendly fire? If that's your position, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[darsinewman]

Listen, I sit in the front row right above the visitor dugout at every single game. Every one. I will yell and get boisterous and be a distraction, but I'm not going to yell stuff about violating people's mothers. And I highly doubt that's the kind of crap that Tony wants us to yell. If I'm wrong about that, then Tony and I will just have to be in disagreement. But I think we can all agree that Tony doesn't want anything made nasty for his own team.

 

[StarRaider]

me since Saturday

 

[txbo]

I thought I just did. There are people you expect to hear trash talk from, and there are people you expect to support you. Like @preacherman20 said recently, it would be like your own parents telling you you're a piece of crap. I have no beef with you, @txbo, and generally enjoy reading your posts, but are you telling me that you see zero difference between an opposing fan telling your kid he sucks vs. someone who calls himself a "fan" of your kid's team? I mean, as a parent, I'm sure you don't want to hear anyone tell your kid he sucks, but you expect it from opposing fans. You don't think it stings exponentially worse when it's friendly fire? If that's your position, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

No, I don't. I disagree with the notion that it's ok to leave your civility at the ticket gate regardless of whom you aim your hostility.

 

[txbo]

Listen, I sit in the front row right above the visitor dugout at every single game. Every one. I will yell and get boisterous and be a distraction, but I'm not going to yell stuff about violating people's mothers. And I highly doubt that's the kind of crap that Tony wants us to yell. If I'm wrong about that, then Tony and I will just have to be in disagreement. But I think we can all agree that Tony doesn't want anything made nasty for his own team.

You may not but are you trying to convince me that others don't on a regular basis?

 

[darsinewman]

Yoou may not but are you trying to convince me that others don't on a regular basis?

Nope, not at all. I acknowledged that not everyone subscribes to my thoughts on that. I agree with you that it would be great if everyone were civil (in a loud, boisterous kind of way), but for people who can't even be civil to our own guys, there's not much hope.

 

[txbo]

Nope, not at all. I acknowledged that not everyone subscribes to my thoughts on that. I agree with you that it would be great if everyone were civil (in a loud, boisterous kind of way), but for people who can't even be civil to our own guys, there's not much hope.

It's disingenuous to think that you can have one culture on one side of the stadium and another on the other side.

Like I said, if it's a hornets nest, sooner or later, everyone gets stung.

 

[taylorvol]

But we want a hornet’s nest for them, don’t we?

Creating a hornets nest doesn’t need to involve ridiculing opponents players, their families, etc. Loudly cheering for your team creates an awesome home field advantage. Sure, the students will chide the RF but you expect that on the road. You don't expect home fans ridiculing players—HUGE difference between the two.

 

[txbo]

Creating a hornets nest doesn’t need to involve ridiculing opponents players, their families, etc. Loudly cheering for your team creates an awesome home field advantage. Sure, the students will chide the RF but you expect that on the road. You don't expect home fans ridiculing players—HUGE difference between the two.

I agree but you shouldn't be surprised by it when we applaud Linsey's Legends and call for the fans to make it nasty. And don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Tony for his comment. He still didn't know who he was really dealing with at the time.

And again, don't get me wrong, I'm not defending whatever happened in the stands this weekend. I'm sure I would not have liked it. Go back and read my reply to Grease where I jumped in on the subject. She said players and their families deserve to be treated with respect because of the time and money spent to get to where they are. My response is that opposing players and their families make the same sacrifice. Meaning they deserve the same respect. Frankly, I think the time and money has nothing to do with it. Everyone deserves to be treated with civility both on the field and in the stands....but that's not the culture we've created.

 

[greasemachine]

Not related to the discussion, but-

Man, I met Marcus' dad on his first trip down this year back in the early season. That guy was awesome. We talked in line together for about 5-10 min and I was ready to invite their whole family over for dinner. I'd hate to see the person that gets on his bad side.

He is great!! Literally all the parents are super ️

 

[Orange.]

He is great!! Literally all the parents are super ️

The only one I ever got to meet was Kavares’s dad. I liked him a lot.

 

[greasemachine]

There's a big difference when opposing fans are heckling your kid and when people who are supposed to be there to support them are telling them they suck. Of course the players and parents expect to hear some unfriendly stuff in an opposing stadium, but when your own home crowd turns against you? Come on.

I realize not everyone is this way, but I would also personally never attack the family of an opposing player, and I'm not going to yell super nasty stuff at an opposing player. A hornet's nest can be loud, boisterous, distracting, etc., and not be just downright a$$holes.

Agree 100%. No one is exempt from heckling, etc. Including family and the boys. Happens all the time from opposing fans. And of course our fans heckle opposing fans. That is sports. But to the Vol fans that make a point to direct it specifically to the families faces after 1 bad day, is unsettling. Going into Suoer Regionals last year at Southern Miss, there was a twitter account from a group at SM, with details of the families and the SM fans were given instructions and "you have the info so you know what to do". The stuff yelled to the boys in the bullpen the entire game, by grown ups and children (like 7 & 8 years old) is not able to be repeated on here.
Hopefully the couple of fans have realized it was not their best moment and will stick to yelling at the ump and other team. Done with rant. Moving on ️

 

[greasemachine]

The only one I ever got to meet was Kavares’s dad. I liked him a lot.

Wonderful people. The best!

 

[taylorvol]

I agree but you shouldn't be surprised by it when we applaud Linsey's Legends and call for the fans to make it nasty. And don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Tony for his comment. He still didn't know who he was really dealing with at the time.

And again, don't get me wrong, I'm not defending whatever happened in the stands this weekend. I'm sure I would not have liked it. Go back and read my reply to Grease where I jumped in on the subject. She said players and their families deserve to be treated with respect because of the time and money spent to get to where they are. My response is that opposing players and their families make the same sacrifice. Meaning they deserve the same respect. Frankly, I think the time and money has nothing to do with it. Everyone deserves to be treated with civility both on the field and in the stands....but that's not the culture we've created.

Thanks for the clarification. I understand your point. I just have zero respect for bandwagon fans who “cheer” against their players, coaches, or team. When they make disparaging comments about Vol players, they reap what they sow. The fans sitting around them should voice their displeasure with the VMMs (vocal minority morons).

 

[taylorvol]

Reese Chapman’s Grandfather went out of his way to be kind to my daughter last year in Omaha. I have since learned that he passed away. At some point, I’d like to tell Reese that story as it was a glimpse into what a great man his Grandfather obviously was. I’ve had the pleasure of meeting several of the parents, grandparents, siblings, etc. They are all quality folks who have sacrificed a lot so their young men could play for the Vols. I hate that they have to ever hear personal attacks towards their BaseVols.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Thanks for the clarification. I understand your point. I just have zero respect for bandwagon fans who “cheer” against their players, coaches, or team. When they make disparaging comments about Vol players, they reap what they sow. The fans sitting around them should voice their displeasure with the VMMs (vocal minority morons).

All they need to do is open a Waffle House concession on the concourse. The Dugout will take care of the rest…

 

[Aerie Vol]

All they need to do is open a Waffle House concession on the concourse. The Dugout will take care of the rest…

2026 upgrade.

 

[vol66]

Thanks for the clarification. I understand your point. I just have zero respect for bandwagon fans who “cheer” against their players, coaches, or team. When they make disparaging comments about Vol players, they reap what they sow. The fans sitting around them should voice their displeasure with the VMMs (vocal minority morons).

This. 100%

 

[vol66]

Directed at no one in particular…I can’t believe a Vols fan would say, to a parent of a player, “your kid sucks”, the fans around that person should call them out and report them to the ushers or via phone/text, If it doesn’t exist now it will. That’s some straight up BS. Makes me sick, it really does, they should be ashamed. In front of kids in front of RECRUITS, thanks for The Money, GTFO.

When we played in the SEC Championship, I was there all week with my family. We went to the game and none of us had any expectations, never made it that far before.

Based on the conversations going on around us, my kid’s like dad these people don’t even know the players. We won, I was happy. But it was my least favorite game as far as fan experience of the week.

All of this to say, to those that are clearly not Vols Baseball fans…at least have enough class, enough manners to treat other parents and their kids the way you want your own kid to be treated.

(Not what I originally wrote, I would have had to ban my self)

GBO!!!

 

[chuckiepoo]

(Not what I originally wrote, I would have had to ban my self)

Congratulations for tempering your comment. Having played and coached my kids, I don’t ever recall being given to abusive behavior, or anything close. It’s a shame the ushers aren’t taking a more proactive position. That’s where I would start. The idea that the coaching staff and parents have to deal with it is beyond my level of patience.

 

[preacherman20]

I have said for 6 years that schools should have to protect home and away fans. At Georgia Southern several years ago they put us right beside the student section. You can imagine how that went.