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I'd also be willing to bet some of your schtick is trolling BTO for his stuff during the Tyndall time.

No those conversations took place during Barnes time at Texas. To be exact they started when CBP was kicking his ass with worse players

My feeling on Barnes is the same many would have hear if CMR was coaching our football program. Underachieving coach that's won a hell of a lot of games while being an elite recruiter
 
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No those conversations took place during Barnes time at Texas. To be exact they started when CBP was kicking his ass with worse players

My feeling on Barnes is the same many would have hear if CMR was coaching out football program. Underachieving coach that's won a hell of a lot of games while being an elite recruiter

First part. Nevermind.

2nd. CRM first head coaching job was UGa. He wasn't proven to be able to be competitive with 3* guys. Barnes has.
 
First part. Nevermind.

2nd. CRM first head coaching job was UGa. He wasn't proven to be able to be competitive with 3* guys. Barnes has.

I assume you are speaking about his early years


Do you believe that the game can pass a coach by?


I do especially ones set in their ways.
 
I assume you are speaking about his early years


Do you believe that the game can pass a coach by?


I do especially ones set in their ways.

While the game can pass anyone by I think older coaches can still win at a high level in hoops.

I think that the game passes many by in football. I don't feel the same way in basketball.
 
I assume you are speaking about his early years


Do you believe that the game can pass a coach by?


I do especially ones set in their ways.

Sure I do. But I'm not above giving the guy time to see if he can be be the exception and not the rule.
 
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Sure I do. But I'm not above giving the old man time to see if he can be be the exception and not the rule.

I think his last 5 years at Texas are plenty reason to think the game might have passed him by
 
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As long as you're keeping an open mind. lol

If there was some evidence from him of evolving and changing his approach I could dismiss some clear decline in his successes but I have seen virtually nothing suggesting that him admitting to any mistakes while at Texas.
 
If there was some evidence from him of evolving and changing his approach I could dismiss some clear decline in his successes but I have seen virtually nothing suggesting that him admitting to any mistakes while at Texas.

He sure did. I don't know who did the interview or the exact words, but the the gist was complacency on his part toward the end of his time at UTjr.
 
Guys I'm admittedly no expert on basketball talent and still a relatively new poster here. Having said that the media all seem to really admire Barnes and his abilities. The players are speaking very well of him and this incoming class has, to me, a ton of potential. They seem to be exactly what we needed. Level headed kids with talent and coachability. It remains to be seen what Barnes will do with them. The old Chinese saying- A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step. It was more than a thousand after the instability UT has had for the past few years. Hell, I even gave Ovomit 2 years before I started ragging on him. [no pun intended] I plan on giving Barnes at least 2 maybe 3 before I will be unreasonably critical. Go Vols.
 
He sure did. I don't know who did the interview or the exact words, but the the gist was complacency on his part toward the end of his time at UTjr.

I would love to see it

Only thing I saw was him saying he wanted to get back into the gym more
 
I disagree that Barnes is a poor game day coach. He prepares his teams pretty well for each opponent and doesn't toss aside the game plans when the team struggles to execute. When he has a lineup full of players with years in his system on the court maybe he will make more adjustments. Actually I thought that TN looked pretty well coached last year... they lacked talent and size. They hung close to most opponents... there were really only 2 or 3 lopsided losses.

Guys like Pearl and Tyndall are very animated during games, but their players seem no less confused or motivated than CRB's. Just because Barnes isn't a wild man on the sidelines doesn't mean that he's not communicating adjustments to his guys throughout every game. When he makes a substitution most of the time he'll talk with the guy that was just replaced. Bruce on the other hand put Tony Jones in charge of creating a scripted substitution rotation before the game even began. Tyndall stuck with his defense even when it wasn't working. He lived and died with how well the opposition was knocking down 3s and rarely deviated from his philosophy of focusing intense defensive pressure on everything other than the perimeter.

When Barnes had his transient 1 or 2 year players at Texas, he maybe didn't bother changing things up... he was living and dying letting them perform or not. He knew what he was going to get from them whether he was constantly pulling strings or letting them run with what he knew they were capable of.

He has a different philosophy on how to handle his inexperienced players on the court. That doesn't mean it's a poor approach. If he has 3, 4, or 5 guys on the floor with years in his system he might make a lot more drastic in-game adjustments. With the rosters he's had he probably knows it's best to keep things uncomplicated.
 
I disagree that Barnes is a poor game day coach. He prepares his teams pretty well for each opponent and doesn't toss aside the game plans when the team struggles to execute. When he has a lineup full of players with years in his system on the court maybe he will make more adjustments. Actually I thought that TN looked pretty well coached last year... they lacked talent and size. They hung close to most opponents... there were really only 2 or 3 lopsided losses.

Guys like Pearl and Tyndall are very animated during games, but their players seem no less confused or motivated than CRB's. Just because Barnes isn't a wild man on the sidelines doesn't mean that he's not communicating adjustments to his guys throughout every game. When he makes a substitution most of the time he'll talk with the guy that was just replaced. Bruce on the other hand put Tony Jones in charge of creating a scripted substitution rotation before the game even began. Tyndall stuck with his defense even when it wasn't working. He lived and died with how well the opposition was knocking down 3s and rarely deviated from his philosophy of focusing intense defensive pressure on everything other than the perimeter.

When Barnes had his transient 1 or 2 year players at Texas, he maybe didn't bother changing things up... he was living and dying letting them perform or not. He knew what he was going to get from them whether he was constantly pulling strings or letting them run with what he knew they were capable of.

He has a different philosophy on how to handle his inexperienced players on the court. That doesn't mean it's a poor approach. If he has 3, 4, or 5 guys on the floor with years in his system he might make a lot more drastic in-game adjustments. With the rosters he's had he probably knows it's best to keep things uncomplicated.

Barnes teams are more disciplined and prepared than I expected. He gets an A from me on that

I just don't think he does anything after the game starts to help his players make adjustments or overcome things
 
Barnes teams are more disciplined and prepared than I expected. He gets an A from me on that

I just don't think he does anything after the game starts to help his players make adjustments or overcome things

What did you expect him to do last year? His options were limited with what he had to work with.

In spite of that he still managed to field a competitive squad who won some games they shouldn't have and lost a few they probably shouldn't have as well.

Either way it evens out and the team performed as most expected, maybe even a little better if you include the SEC tourney wins.
 
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