The Official NASCAR Talk Thread

#201
#201
NASCAR, like most televised sports, needs very limited input from the announcers. And they give you more, and more useless, chatter than any telecast not involving Tim McCarver or Dick Vitale.
 
#202
#202
Toujours Pret said:
NASCAR, like most televised sports, needs very limited input from the announcers. And they give you more, and more useless, chatter than any telecast not involving Tim McCarver or Dick Vitale.
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Sorry, you are incorrect. You cannot have enough Larry Mac. I know a lot of people hate him, but I think he is the best!
 
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#203
#203
Nerd-Vol said:
Man, racing in America is in trouble. That place is pretty empty.
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Although they'll never admit it, I bet NASCAR really regrets taking races away from a lot of the older, more unique tracks and filling a huge portion of its schedule with cookie cutter tracks in large markets just to sell tickets. It made sense while the popularity boom lasted, but I really wish they'd ditch some of the mile and a halfers and bring back some of the old short tracks. Clearly this won't ever happen though as most of the tracks I am referring to are now decrepit and abandoned ever since the Cup series packed up shop.
 
#204
#204
bleedorange0037 said:
Although they'll never admit it, I bet NASCAR really regrets taking races away from a lot of the older, more unique tracks and filling a huge portion of its schedule with cookie cutter tracks in large markets just to sell tickets. It made sense while the popularity boom lasted, but I really wish they'd ditch some of the mile and a halfers and bring back some of the old short tracks. Clearly this won't ever happen though as most of the tracks I am referring to are now decrepit and abandoned ever since the Cup series packed up shop.
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They just didn't deal with the popularity spike in a reasonable manner, as in they projected the future based on the boom increase rate.
 
#205
#205
I think one thing is the fact that NASCAR fans may be among the poorest groups of sports fans in America. A lot of blue collar folks, so the economic downturn probably hurt them more than other fanbases.

The lovely Doozer actually has some good theories on NASCAR's popularity as well.
 
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#206
Toujours Pret said:
They just didn't deal with the popularity spike in a reasonable manner, as in they projected the future based on the boom increase rate.
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Which was stupid because people will only come in droves to see boring racing for a short time. The resurfacing at Bristol has proven that. It used to be damn near impossible to get tickets to that race, and now they can't hardly give them away.
 
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#207
bleedorange0037 said:
Which was stupid because people will only come in droves to see boring racing for a short time. The resurfacing at Bristol has proven that. It used to be damn near impossible to get tickets to that race, and now they can't hardly give them away.
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I don't know that it's that. I think its more a shiny new thing, gets interested, and 3 years later its old news.

A weekend at the track is good for booze, ribs, and fun women. The race itself isn't much different from my couch, minus the noise and smelly dude next to me sweating on my arm.
 
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#208
Nerd-Vol said:
I think one thing is the fact that NASCAR fans may be among the poorest groups of sports fans in America. A lot of blue collar folks, so the economic downturn probably hurt them more than other fanbases.

The lovely Doozer actually has some good theories on NASCAR's popularity as well.
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It certainly didn't help that NASCAR basically spent a decade alienating its core fanbase in hopes of attracting a richer more sophisticated crowd.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
I don't know that it's that. I think its more a shiny new thing, gets interested, and 3 years later its old news.

A weekend at the track is good for booze, ribs, and fun women. The race itself isn't much different from my couch, minus the noise and smelly dude next to me sweating on my arm.
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For YEARS Bristol sold every seat that they built around that track. Maybe it's just a crazy coincidence, but it sure seems like their attendance problems began right at the same time they reconfigured the track and the product went to hell. I know a lot of people who never missed a race up there who simply don't go anymore because they don't even want to fight the traffic and spend $100 a ticket to watch that snoozefest.
 
#211
#211
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Give me the tandem racing. This is a snoozefest.
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Kind if the nature of plate racing. The first 80% of the race is boring, but the finish is almost always awesome. Just keeping an eye on things for now and watching the Braves till things pick up in a little bit.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
For YEARS Bristol sold every seat that they built around that track. Maybe it's just a crazy coincidence, but it sure seems like their attendance problems began right at the same time they reconfigured the track and the product went to hell. I know a lot of people who never missed a race up there who simply don't go anymore because they don't even want to fight the traffic and spend $100 a ticket to watch that snoozefest.
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New Hampshire and Dover sold every seat and RV lot as well, NH had something like 23 sellout years in a row. Now they don't. The problem isn't repaving Bristol, or leaving North Wilkesboro.
 
#214
#214
I dont know what you guys expect from a plate race. They wont do anything until 3 laps to go. Been that way for over 10 years.
 
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#224
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Not necessarily. It's hard to miss for sure.
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