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#2,178
#2,178
Orangesmokey said:
Not sure I like the idea but it will be fun to watch.
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It sounds like it'll be really expensive to the teams as well. Not only the fuel costs of running for nearly an hour as opposed to 2 laps, but you also get into the risk of completely tearing up race cars. That rarely if ever happened with single car qualifying.
 
#2,179
#2,179
bleedorange0037 said:
It sounds like it'll be really expensive to the teams as well. Not only the fuel costs of running for nearly an hour as opposed to 2 laps, but you also get into the risk of completely tearing up race cars. That rarely if ever happened with single car qualifying.
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Apparently teams will be allowed to draft at Daytona & Talladega during qualifying! :rock:
 
#2,180
#2,180
bleedorange0037 said:
It sounds like it'll be really expensive to the teams as well. Not only the fuel costs of running for nearly an hour as opposed to 2 laps, but you also get into the risk of completely tearing up race cars. That rarely if ever happened with single car qualifying.
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The way I took it was they really wouldn't be out there running the whole time. It would be making laps with other cars on the track and times would be based off those laps. Once they get a time they like they could park the car until the next round or until someone made a faster lap.

That being said it does seem like it will be more expensive and there is a chance of wrecking a car during those sessions.
 
#2,181
#2,181
Orangesmokey said:
The way I took it was they really wouldn't be out there running the whole time. It would be making laps with other cars on the track and times would be based off those laps. Once they get a time they like they could park the car until the next round or until someone made a faster lap.

That being said it does seem like it will be more expensive and there is a chance of wrecking a car during those sessions.
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It won't be such an issue at the big tracks like Daytona and Talladega because I imagine the teams will pretty much just line up single file, try to find the quickest line, and probably switch the running order up a little to see who can drag them around the quickest. Bristol on the other hand will be a nightmare trying to stay out of trouble with all 43 cars on the track.
 
#2,182
#2,182
bleedorange0037 said:
It won't be such an issue at the big tracks like Daytona and Talladega because I imagine the teams will pretty much just line up single file, try to find the quickest line, and probably switch the running order up a little to see who can drag them around the quickest. Bristol on the other hand will be a nightmare trying to stay out of trouble with all 43 cars on the track.
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Bristol and the other short tracks are probably going to end up being the most fun to watch as a fan but the most nerve racking as an owner or a team memeber.
 
#2,187
#2,187
I will be curious to see how the first 30 minute session works itself out. Back when F1 used to have an open qualifying format each driver was limited to 12 laps total and they had an hour to set their best time. That essentially gave them 4 shots at a pole lap, one lap out, one hot lap, and the in lap. You would see the scrub teams go out early and set their times and the big hitters would wait till the end after the track had been rubbered in by the scrubs.

That format had issues because the first cars wouldn't go out until twenty minutes in and then the faster teams would come out with only 20 minutes or so remaining. This meant there was a decent period of time where nothing was going on.

I think with this NASCAR format you are going to see a lot of pissed off drivers. In F1 you get drivers having their laps messed up by a slower car, and that is on a track 3 miles in length and only 22 cars on track! Mind you a Stock Car isn't as aero sensitive as an F1 car, but it is going to be a mess when you have 43+ cars on a much smaller track.

I can't wait.
 
#2,189
#2,189
Heat races (no longer than a full fuel/tire run) set by the first practice times with the top finishing 18 cars locked in, and the remaining spots filled with a b-main and one provisional based on points. It has worked pretty well for the hundreds of local short tracks across the country for the past however many decades. It gives the fans a few more races to watch, which would give the tracks opportunity to sell more items from the concession stand. It should not cost any more than what they switched to really, but would be much more entertaining.
 
#2,190
#2,190
Nerd-Vol said:
I will be curious to see how the first 30 minute session works itself out. Back when F1 used to have an open qualifying format each driver was limited to 12 laps total and they had an hour to set their best time. That essentially gave them 4 shots at a pole lap, one lap out, one hot lap, and the in lap. You would see the scrub teams go out early and set their times and the big hitters would wait till the end after the track had been rubbered in by the scrubs.

That format had issues because the first cars wouldn't go out until twenty minutes in and then the faster teams would come out with only 20 minutes or so remaining. This meant there was a decent period of time where nothing was going on.

I think with this NASCAR format you are going to see a lot of pissed off drivers. In F1 you get drivers having their laps messed up by a slower car, and that is on a track 3 miles in length and only 22 cars on track! Mind you a Stock Car isn't as aero sensitive as an F1 car, but it is going to be a mess when you have 43+ cars on a much smaller track.

I can't wait.
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Bristol, martinsville, and Richmond are definite problems. Another is Dover.
 
#2,191
#2,191
robbymoore94 said:
Heat races (no longer than a full fuel/tire run) set by the first practice times with the top finishing 18 cars locked in, and the remaining spots filled with a b-main and one provisional based on points. It has worked pretty well for the hundreds of local short tracks across the country for the past however many decades. It gives the fans a few more races to watch, which would give the tracks opportunity to sell more items from the concession stand. It should not cost any more than what they switched to really, but would be much more entertaining.
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Heat races would be fun but in this economy do we really need to add further costs to the smaller teams?
 
#2,192
#2,192
It seems to me its basically another Friday test session only the best lap you put down will be your qualifying time.
 
#2,193
#2,193
NASCAR has gone out of its way to create drama for years, nothing to see here. Stock car racing exists for 8am drinking and blowjobs from 19 year old redneck chicks who think 8608675309 is a real phone number.
 
#2,198
#2,198
So new point system as follows;

16 Chase drivers, win and you're in. The 16th position is reserved for the points leader if he/she does not have a win in the first 26 races.

Challenger Round (First) - 3 races/16 drivers
* Chicagoland
* New Hampshire
* Dover

Four drivers to be eliminated. Whoever wins automatically advances, rest set via points.

Contender Round - 3 races/12 drivers
* Kansas
* Charlotte
* Talladega

Win and advance, four drivers eliminated. Rest set via points.

Eliminator Round - 3 races/8 drivers
* Martinsville
* Texas
* Phoenix

Win and advanced, 4 more drivers gone.

Sprint Championship Round - 1 race/4 drivers
* Homestead-Miami

Be the first driver to cross the finish and you are champion. Doesn't matter about points, bonus points, lap lead, etc.
 
#2,199
#2,199
I already smell the controversy brewing regarding the last round. Picture this scenario, at Miami late race caution and driver B bumps/turns driver A on the last lap and wins the championship. You will never hear the end of it.
 
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