The Official NASCAR Talk Thread

#3,257
#3,257
Nerd-Vol said:
How the hell is NASCARs fanbase only 78% white? Interesting video, and I wish NASCAR the best. One of the issues they have with motorsports as opposed to other sports is that it is not a meritocracy and having money will get you farther than raw talent.
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It must be those Busch races they ran in Mexico that won them some Latino fans. Plus you have to account for all the old school white fans they've run off over the past 10 years.
 
#3,262
#3,262
Nerd-Vol said:
I'm also curious as to how they have run off the white people?
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Just long time fans that got fed up with races getting taken away from tracks in the south that were fun to go to and watch in favor of bland mile and a halfers that had almost no merit other than enough seating for all the people that wanted to watch a flavor of the month sport.
 
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#3,264
bleedorange0037 said:
Just long time fans that got fed up with races getting taken away from tracks in the south that were fun to go to and watch in favor of bland mile and a halfers that had almost no merit other than enough seating for all the people that wanted to watch a flavor of the month sport.
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I can agree with that, however I will state that at least one of the tracks removed from the rotation in the South was due to sagging attendance during their hot period in the 1990's early 2000's. But I can understand how fans would have been alienated by the sport's rapid expansion.
 
#3,265
#3,265
bleedorange0037 said:
Anecdotal. I've talked to plenty of older guys who used to be huge fans that either don't follow it at all anymore or at the very least aren't as interested as they were years ago.
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I understand. I wish I had access to market info from NASCAR over the last 15-20 years.

I may see if I can track down some old annual reports.
 
#3,268
#3,268
bleedorange0037 said:
Anecdotal. I've talked to plenty of older guys who used to be huge fans that either don't follow it at all anymore or at the very least aren't as interested as they were years ago.
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I would say that the awfulness that is the Fox/Waltrip family marriage has caused me to pay less attention, I just can't stand to watch an entire race.
 
#3,269
#3,269
Nerd-Vol said:
I can agree with that, however I will state that at least one of the tracks removed from the rotation in the South was due to sagging attendance during their hot period in the 1990's early 2000's. But I can understand how fans would have been alienated by the sport's rapid expansion.
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It's just a shame that Rockingham got wiped completely off the schedule and Darlington lost a race pretty much because they weren't selling every single seat. Now we're stuck with all these cookie cutters that are on the schedule for no other reason than how many seats they have and nobody, not even Bristol, sells out anymore.
 
#3,270
#3,270
Toujours Pret said:
I would say that the awfulness that is the Fox/Waltrip family marriage has caused me to pay less attention, I just can't stand to watch an entire race.
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God, they are terrible.

I can't believe that older generations of NASCAR fans got to enjoy the knowledgeable and verbose stylings of JACKIE STEWART. Now we get the Darrell and his effeminate brother who can't put together a simple sentence without drooling.
 
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#3,272
#3,272
Nerd-Vol said:
God, they are terrible.

I can't believe that older generations of NASCAR fans got to enjoy the knowledgeable and verbose stylings of JACKIE STEWART. Now we get the Darrell and his effeminate brother who can't put together a simple sentence without drooling.
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DW isn't that bad, but it may just be that almost 15 years of listening to him on a weekly basis has made me numb to him. Michael Waltrip is damn near unbearable.
 
#3,273
#3,273
bleedorange0037 said:
It's just a shame that Rockingham got wiped completely off the schedule and Darlington lost a race pretty much because they weren't selling every single seat. Now we're stuck with all these cookie cutters that are on the schedule for no other reason than how many seats they have and nobody, not even Bristol, sells out anymore.
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Well from what I was reading, apparently Rockingham had declining attendance when they gave one of its dates taken away, and when they got rid of it period in 2004 attendance had gotten really bad.

Wilkesboro seems to have fallen into bad shape and no one wanted to offer up the coin to get it up to snuff.

Bristol these days is just sad. But then again, I am not paying $75 bucks for seats that take forever to get to. Traffic I will be stuck in for hours, and parking miles away. Gimme a pair of UT football tickets for a total of $75 that I can go pregame for in a nearby bar.
 
#3,274
#3,274
Nerd-Vol said:
God, they are terrible.

I can't believe that older generations of NASCAR fans got to enjoy the knowledgeable and verbose stylings of JACKIE STEWART. Now we get the Darrell and his effeminate brother who can't put together a simple sentence without drooling.
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I also like verbosity. ESPN seems pretty white bread, but occasionally insightful and offers more than background noise. Fox is aiming directly for the lowest common denominator viewer wise.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
I also like verbosity. ESPN seems pretty white bread, but occasionally insightful and offers more than background noise. Fox is aiming directly for the lowest common denominator viewer wise.
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Somebody needs to inform them that the influx of new fans has long since ended and most everyone watching now knows the ins and outs of what's going on. There's no need to try and find some NFL analogy for everything that happens.
 
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