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Bynum got five games at the start of next season. Here's the kicker: It wasn't for his flagrant (2) on Barea, it was for taking his jersey off before he left the court.

I thought it was 5 games for the foul and $25K for the jersey.
 
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So more and more of the story is coming out of the fighting in the laker lockerroom. Pau hasn't talked to Kobe in a month. Turns out pau has a wandering eye and kobe's wife talked to Pau's girlfriend and convinced her that maybe she should confront him on it or move on. She moved on. Pau blames kobe's wife and kobe.

Pau isn't talking to kobe. Shunning him. Not only that but pau is supposedly all butt hurt over his chick leaving him.

Check out his numbers for the post season, clearly he's distracted.

Amusing. I heard Pau actually boinked Kobe's old lady, and that's why Kobe sucked so bad (23 ppg, TS% of only .535, 3.4 rpg, 3.3 apg, and 3.1 topg*). Ouch!

*All worse than season averages.
 
This is actually a pretty good read. Pollard makes some great points.

Scot Pollard on Phil Jackson: “I just think he’s one of the most overrated coaches of our time”
May 11, 2011 – 6:00 am by Chris Fedor
In the few short days since the Lakers got swept by the Mavericks, there’s already been a wave of conversation amongst fans and the media about Phil Jackson, his remarkable career, and where he belongs in the all-time pantheon of great coaches. It’s easy to argue that he belongs at the top of the list, but there’s a point to be made as well that he might be a tad bit more overrated than his decorated ring collection might suggest. Here’s the deal though — this conversation is being played out publicly in a pretty tame manner. Wouldn’t it be more fun to hear what an unabashed trained enemy of Jackson has to say about his coaching legacy?

Enter Scot Pollard, a key contributor on the Sacramento Kings during their brief rise to prominence not long ago. Pollard’s game might not have been all that memorable (except for his atrocious free throw shooting), but even if you don’t recall much about his contributions in those classic Kings-Lakers battles, you’ll probably have a quick ‘ah-ha!’ moment if you saw his picture.



In addition to hearing him talk about Jackson, Sacramento residents and fans of the Kings will be pleased to hear Pollard talk about the city he played the most significant years of his NBA career in. He loves the place, and he’s relieved and damn pleased that the Kings weren’t taken away from the passionate residents of Sac-Town.

Pollard joined Grant Napear on KHTK in Sacramento to discuss

Why he feels Phil Jackson is overrated:

“Oh man. I just think he’s one of the most overrated coaches of our time. He’s only had the greatest players of our era on his teams. Put him in charge of the Sacramento Kings this year, and I don’t mean to offend Sacramento fans, but put him on a team with no Hall-Of-Famers on it at least no one that has established themselves as a Hall-Of-Famer already, put him as the Head Coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers right now and let’s see how he does next year with no Hall-Of-Famers on the team. That’s all I’m saying. I respect his championships, I respect his ability to get egos in line and get them in the same direction, but I just think he’s overrated because he’s only had the greatest players of our generation. (Host: That’s like saying Joe Montana was an overrated quarterback because he had the best receiver in history to throw to, he had a great offensive line, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, and John Taylor. You can say that about a lot of people that are great.) I have a championship because my teammates and I’m not saying that’s not a valid point. All I’m saying is I would like to see Phil Jackson coach a team that doesn’t belong in the playoffs. I think he could get the Orlando Magic to the playoffs and the Dallas Mavericks to the playoffs. I’m not sure he could get Cleveland to the playoffs next year. Joe Montana was a player, a great player and a Hall-Of-Fame player and you could’ve put me in charge of the San Francisco 49ers when Joe Montana was playing with all those players you were talking about, I might’ve gotten them to the playoffs. I’m not saying I’m a football coach by any means. I just think he is partially a benefactor of circumstance, that’s all I’m getting at. I think if you put him in charge of a team without at least one or two future Hall-Of-Famers on it and I’m not sure he’s going to get you a championship ring. I doubt that.”

On the idea that great coaches need great players and it goes hand-in-hand:

“I agree and he got Ron Artest to buy in. I’m totally on board with his managing of egos. I believe some coaches can make a team like the Cleveland Cavaliers, I love Byron Scott. I really do. I think he’s better than his record indicates. I’m just saying there are certain coaches that can take a team like the Cleveland Cavaliers this year because they had a poor year and can turn them around to a playoff team, maybe not a champion, but a playoff team. There are certain coaches that can do that. All I’m saying is Phil Jackson has never done that. He has never taken a team that wasn’t a playoff team and turned them into a playoff team. The players that played for him turned into a playoff team.”

How excited he is that the Kings will remain in Sacramento for at least one more season

“Absolutely. That’s why when they said hey we’re going to have a rally would you want to come out I said absolutely because Sacramento was my NBA home. It was the place I played the longest by a long shot, a place I loved the most, and the place I was most productive as an NBA player. It’s definitely my NBA home, I would love to be involved with the organization. I’m still working on that. Maybe tomorrow I can rub elbows with the right person and get an excuse to move out to Sacramento. I love that place and I want to be out there, but as you know nobody retires to California. If I get an income then it is possible to deal with the cost of living out in California. You need a job to live there. That’s what I’m looking for. Hopefully that works out, but if not I’m still going to be a big fan of Sacramento. I’m really excited and so proud of the fans and the whole community of Sacramento that really rallied around the Kings organization and really forced the NBA to give us another year to figure this out. Hopefully this works out and hopefully there can be a realistic arena plan put together. There have been rumors of Pollard Pavilion being the name of it. I don’t have 400 million in my pocket, but if somebody wants to name it that anyway I’m not going to say no. I’m not going to request it, but if somebody says we’re going to put all the money up and we just want to use your name I’ll say okay. (Host: As long as you don’t have to pay for naming rights?) Yeah I will put my two dollars in which is pretty much what I have going for me right now. Seriously I’m really excited about the city getting behind this and having another year to get a realistic plan together because the Kings do belong in Sacramento, the NBA needs the Kings in Sacramento, and Sacramento obviously needs the Kings in Sacramento. I just think it’s a great fit for both the city and the league as a whole. I just hope the lockout doesn’t get in the way too much and the businessmen, the politicians, and the city of Sacramento are able to get this done. Guess what Sacramento? It’s up to everybody. As you’ve already shown right now you can make a difference. I’m talking to everybody in this city that’s listening and the politicians as well and the people with the big bucks. We have to figure out a way to get this done, we have a year to do it, and I believe we can.”
 
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So more and more of the story is coming out of the fighting in the laker lockerroom. Pau hasn't talked to Kobe in a month. Turns out pau has a wandering eye and kobe's wife talked to Pau's girlfriend and convinced her that maybe she should confront him on it or move on. She moved on. Pau blames kobe's wife and kobe.

Pau isn't talking to kobe. Shunning him. Not only that but pau is supposedly all butt hurt over his chick leaving him.

Check out his numbers for the post season, clearly he's distracted.


Vanessa Bryant pulled the same thing with Karl Malone. She should just keep her opinions to herself and work in the kitchen.
 
ShannonBrown. Ok let me put a end to this right now before it goes any further. I DID NOT SLEEP WITH @paugasol woman!!! First and last time addressing it!

I'm glad Shannon Brown felt the need to address this issue.
 
This is actually a pretty good read. Pollard makes some great points.

Regression modeling was used to show relationships between coaches and player productivity. Of the 60 something coaches sampled (including quite a few HOF coaches):

Virtually every coach had a significant positive impact on player productivity the first year of their relationship.

Only Phil Jackson and Greg Popovich had a significant impact on player productivity for 2 years.

Phil Jackson is the only coach who had significant impact on player productivity for 3 years.

FWIW.
 
I love both Howard and Paul. I'd have no choice but to kind of like the Lakers.
 
From another board.

Let me set everyone straight here on what will happen. First, Odom for the TE from Dallas is not enough for Gedu. But it's not going to be used for Hedu anyways. No. Cause NO WAY is Bynum enough for Dwight. And the Lakers don't have the picks that Jersey does. And they can just absorb Hedu with their Cap space. No, to get Dwight the Lakers MUST trade BOTH Bynum & Gasol for Dwight and Hedu.

But first before all that, the lakers WILL....


1) Use their Sasha TE to acquire Sixer Marreese Speights, then immediately flip Speights along with Odom for a bigger TE ( Over 10 million )
2) As I said, both Bynum & Gasol go for Dwight & Hedu.
3) Lakers use that TE to acquire a re-signed and traded David West from New Orleans....there, no more PF worries now that Gasol is gone. And New Orleans can definitely use the 10 million TE for the future.
4) Lakers PROBABLY sign a Amnesty player like Jefferson to assist at SF.
 
Interesting read.

Only way LA has capspace.

Trade Bynum/Gasol to Orlando for Howard, Redick, Orton. The Magic since they cut Arenas, can now start taking on 150% on deals. So they can take on that extra salary.

Amnesty Bryant after this season.

Sign Paul in FA in 2012.

Crazy, will never happen (esp amnesty Bryant) but that is the only way it happens.

I do not believe for one second LA can get Bryant, Howard and Paul on the same team using capspace.

So the only way this happens, is if Bryant is cut. There was a time I would have said that never will happen, and I'd like to think I can still say that. But these days I have no idea WTH is going on with the FO or the NBA.

But just stating to have capspace - you need to trade Bynum/Gasol for Howard and then amnesty Bryant after this season. Now you're left with a lot of money.
 
Dwight has supposedly had a change of heart. He's leaning on staying with Orlando right now. I wonder what changed? How ironic would it be if the Magic went after Chris Paul or another big name?
 
Dwight has supposedly had a change of heart. He's leaning on staying with Orlando right now. I wonder what changed? How ironic would it be if the Magic went after Chris Paul or another big name?

I'd imagine the destinations he wanted weren't going to happen so he decided to stay put. Besides, there are worse situations than having an NBA salary and playing over half your games in Florida.
 
I'd imagine the destinations he wanted weren't going to happen so he decided to stay put. Besides, there are worse situations than having an NBA salary and playing over half your games in Florida.

Honestly, the Lakers should call Otis Smith and offer this: two 1st round picks, TPE for Redick and Bynum for Dwight Howard. Los Angeles doesn't have enough cap to take on Hedo's massive contract.
 
Honestly, the Lakers should call Otis Smith and offer this: two 1st round picks, TPE for Redick and Bynum for Dwight Howard. Los Angeles doesn't have enough cap to take on Hedo's massive contract.

If it's true the Nets are willing to offer Lopez and two 1sts, I'd take that deal. The Nets were willing to take Hedo back too.
 

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