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#127
#127
DrRosenRosen said:
Nintendo's best move would be abandon their sinking hardware business and pump out games for Sony/MS.
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Yup - their business plan of catering only to their target market (the kiddos) has unsurprisingly left them in the dust of Sony and MS.

They either ignored or downright failed to anticipate the video gaming industry moving from niche to mainstream back in the early 2000's.

Like Sega and Atari, Nintendo only see themselves as a video game company.
 
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#128
#128
DrRosenRosen said:
Nintendo's best move would be abandon their sinking hardware business and pump out games for Sony/MS.
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This! Or drop the whole gimmicky stuff with their hardware. I admire their want to innovate and be different, but it is hard for me to justify buying a $300 Wii U, when it isn't capable of doing anything near what a $350 Xbox One or $400 PS4 can do - and I'm not talking about graphics.

A SNES2 or something with the word Nintendo in it (the word Wii, itself, annoys me) with a full catalog of NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, GB, GBA, etc classics with a "normal" controller, better online features, and some sort of way to track your stats with your friends to see who can do the fastest speed run of A Link to the Past and so on and so on.
 
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#129
#129
Nintendo failed to harness the internet and failed to give developers a machine that wasn't catered 100% to Nintendo's whims. Now their business is failing.
 
#130
#130
Star Fox Zero looked like a Gamecube game. And no online multiplayer? Seriously? In this day and age that is unacceptable for a dogfighting game! Even Star Fox 64 had 4 player split screen!

Nintendo's show today shows me that they still dont' get it. The industry has moved on and while there will always be the die hards that carry that Nintendo flag, they are slowly losing fans. I guess it's for the best that they are venturing into the mobile market because if they're not going to bother to invest the dollars needed to make games that modern day gamers demand, that is exactly where their games belong.
 
#131
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Brave Volunteer said:
Star Fox Zero looked like a Gamecube game. And no online multiplayer? Seriously? In this day and age that is unacceptable for a dogfighting game! Even Star Fox 64 had 4 player split screen!

Nintendo's show today shows me that they still dont' get it. The industry has moved on and while there will always be the die hards that carry that Nintendo flag, they are slowly losing fans. I guess it's for the best that they are venturing into the mobile market because if they're not going to bother to invest the dollars needed to make games that modern day gamers demand, that is exactly where their games belong.
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And then there were two...
 
#132
#132
DrRosenRosen said:
Nintendo failed to harness the internet and failed to give developers a machine that wasn't catered 100% to Nintendo's whims. Now their business is failing.
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I don't know about the "failing" part. They still have made a profit off the Wii U and the 3DS is very profitable.
 
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#133
The Nintendo conference was pretty terrible, but to anyone who thinks it was their worst, I have two words - Wii Music. I sort of respect them for recognizing that despite the commercial success of the Wii, most people absolutely hated motion controls.

The new Zelda game better be revolutionary for all the time people will have to wait.
 
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#134
UTCVol said:
The Nintendo conference was pretty terrible, but to anyone who thinks it was their worst, I have two words - Wii Music. I sort of respect them for recognizing that despite the commercial success of the Wii, most people absolutely hated motion controls.

The new Zelda game better be revolutionary for all the time people will have to wait.
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My goodness that 2008 e3 was painful to watch. 2003 was bad too.

I'm willing to bet the next Zelda will be pushed to the NX, if it even ever comes out. It's pretty clear to me Nintendo is giving up on the Wii U.
 
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Nintendo is doing all of the things Sega did that led to their hardware developing demise - putting out too much hardware and not enough software - I think I'm on the 5th version of the DS since about 2008.

I remember when I finally got a Saturn (I'm an idiot, I know), Sega was like, "forget the Saturn, here is the Dreamcast!" They never let consumers or software developers get comfortable with their current hardware before they announced another $300 machine. People eventually quit buying them, assuming something better would come along in a couple of years. Now Sonic is on Nintendo, Xbox, and PS4, and that is still weird to me.

Except Nintendo has their own money printer in the 3DS, which will keep them afloat.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I don't know about the "failing" part. They still have made a profit off the Wii U and the 3DS is very profitable.
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I don't want to beat Nintendo while they are now growing, but they posted losses in '12, '13, and '14. However, mainly due to yen/dollar issues, N turned profitable again this year. Wii U blows and the handheld market keeps them afloat. Problem is that is now dying.

They are on rocky ground right now. Sega is looking at them shaking their heads.
 
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G0 BIG 0RANGE said:
Nintendo is doing all of the things Sega did that led to their hardware developing demise - putting out too much hardware and not enough software - I think I'm on the 5th version of the DS since about 2008.

I remember when I finally got a Saturn (I'm an idiot, I know), Sega was like, "forget the Saturn, here is the Dreamcast!" They never let consumers or software developers get comfortable with their current hardware before they announced another $300 machine. People eventually quit buying them, assuming something better would come along in a couple of years. Now Sonic is on Nintendo, Xbox, and PS4, and that is still weird to me.

Except Nintendo has their own money printer in the 3DS, which will keep them afloat.
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Well they also made a crapton off the Wii. Those things were cheap to make because they were basically a slightly upgraded GameCube. Unlike the 360 and PS3, they actually made a profit off every Wii sold and they won last gen by about 17 million units. Combined with the DS sales, they made enough last gen to fund them probably 2-3 more gens at least.

The problem is they didn't seem to grasp at how much of a fad the Wii was. It was pumped up by casual gamers who pretty much abandoned the system by year 3 and moved on to mobile phone games. The Wii U is basically barely more powerful than the 360/PS3 and has a horrible name and the casuals are gone.

The thing is though, the Xbox One hasn't sold that many more consoles than the Wii U, though you have to factor in the Wii U was out a year before the Xbox One came out.
 
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