The Official Dan Mullen Thread

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#777
1972 Grad said:
I say Smart gets worse. Half the starting lineup are seniors, and there are also several juniors. Richt's recruits for the most part.
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I think that Smart did a better job of recruiting... Locking the state down moreso than Right. On the other hand, hard to believe that Smart can get much better.
 
#778
#778
Freak said:
I don’t have a huge issue with Mullen, although he’s not one of my top choices.

This issue is you have to be sure that recruiting/facilities, etc. at Mississippi State are the reason he hasn’t won more. Personally, I’m not 100% convinced.

We could do worse though. I think that it at least shows a commitment from the AD to go after Mullen and not another mid-major hopeful.
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Here's the issue as i see it. If Currie hires lets say Frost, if he turns into Butch 2.0 it will cost him his job. Someone like Mullen will bring in stabilization and good coaching. If the hire is Mullen, he will need to surround himself with some good recruiters. this time around i do believe the money will be available to hire top notch assistants.
 
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skeeter33418 said:
Here's the issue as i see it. If Currie hires lets say Frost, if he turns into Butch 2.0 it will cost him his job. Someone like Mullen will bring in stabilization and good coaching. If the hire is Mullen, he will need to surround himself with some good recruiters. this time around i do believe the money will be available to hire top notch assistants.
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Tell me we're hiring him.
 
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skeeter33418 said:
Here's the issue as i see it. If Currie hires lets say Frost, if he turns into Butch 2.0 it will cost him his job. Someone like Mullen will bring in stabilization and good coaching. If the hire is Mullen, he will need to surround himself with some good recruiters. this time around i do believe the money will be available to hire top notch assistants.
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I'm afraid that's true. Mullen will probably fill the stands, but he'll give us a trip to Atlanta once every 10 years.

I don't think Mullen will recruit very well. I suspect that we'll be in the 15 to 20 range, which will put us behind UF and UGA. We will probably end our streak against Bama in another 5 years.
 
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HuntsVol_AL said:
I'm afraid that's true. Mullen will probably fill the stands, but he'll give us a trip to Atlanta once every 10 years.

I don't think Mullen will recruit very well. I suspect that we'll be in the 15 to 20 range, which will put us behind UF and UGA. We will probably end our streak against Bama in another 5 years.
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So basically you’re saying coaching ability will comes down to it to beating to Florida or Georgia? Advantage Mullen.

Literally once out of ten years is better than our last ten years. By the way, i think Mullen gets us to three, minimum, East division titles in ten years.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Literally once out of ten years is better than our last ten years. By the way, i think Mullen gets us to three, minimum, East division titles in ten years.
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With triple the recruiting budget and softer top to bottom division competition I think he could have us in contention every year. Especially if he has money for top notch coordinators.
 
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skeeter33418 said:
Here's the issue as i see it. If Currie hires lets say Frost, if he turns into Butch 2.0 it will cost him his job. Someone like Mullen will bring in stabilization and good coaching. If the hire is Mullen, he will need to surround himself with some good recruiters. this time around i do believe the money will be available to hire top notch assistants.
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Please tell me Mullen is coming.
 
#786
#786
Have no idea what people see in Mullen. He's won nothing of note, has a losing record in the SEC and potential NCAA baggage. Any coach we hire and pay $5 million to needs to have won something somewhere. That isn't Mullen. I'm tired of hiring guys who haven't done much at another place and thinking he drink from the magic gourd in Knoxville. Not happening.

Norvell can take a hike, too.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
For the record, I don't know if Gruden is a pipe dream or not. My argument is that Scott Frost and Dan Mullen are actually BETTER HIRES than Gruden. Gruden is a high-risk hire, whose system has already failed spectacularly in college under Bill Callahan at Nebraska. I'm not saying Gruden wouldn't be better than Callahan, but he's far far from a "home run" and a much riskier hire than most of the Gruden maniacs here are willing to admit. Many NFL coaches have also stated that Gruden's biggest weakness is player development --- WHICH IS A VERY VERY BAD WEAKNESS TO HAVE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL! College is much more about player development than X's and O's; whereas the NFL is the reverse.

Mullen who has a proven track record of taking one of the worst programs in the SEC, and going to 8 straight bowl games, including a BCS Bowl. He won 2 national championships at Florida, coached a Heisman Trophy winner, and an NFL #1 pick. He's achieved his results as Miss State playing in the toughest division in college football, routinely playing at least 5 - 6 games per season where the other team has vastly more talent than his team (Bama, LSU, Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss, Georgia 2017).

I look at Mullen's resume and it's much more impressive than Gruden's resume when it comes to coaching college football. Gruden, for the record, I think would recruit well, but so did Bill Callahan, Jim Mora, Dave Wannstadt, and Mike Sherman ... and all those former NFL coaches failed. Gruden was an above-average NFL coach, but many above-average NFL coaches have failed in college football.
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Yep.

Scott Frost and Dan Mullen should be UT's top two targets, imo.

(For the record, I hope UT makes a great hire.)
 
#789
#789
Frost has a chance to be better. Mullen certainly won’t be. Mullen is simply safer.

Gruden has the highest ceiling by a wide margin.
 
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Unimane said:
Have no idea what people see in Mullen. He's won nothing of note, has a losing record in the SEC and potential NCAA baggage. Any coach we hire and pay $5 million to needs to have won something somewhere. That isn't Mullen. I'm tired of hiring guys who haven't done much at another place and thinking he drink from the magic gourd in Knoxville. Not happening.

Norvell can take a hike, too.
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Oh look someone else can make up a lie too. NCAA baggage? Gimme a break.
 
#793
#793
tvolsfan said:
Frost has a chance to be better. Mullen certainly won’t be. Mullen is simply safer.

Gruden has the highest ceiling by a wide margin.
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i don't know that it's certain he won't be, but, i agree with the rest.
 
#794
#794
Dan's Bowl Record 5-2 one trip to a BCS Bowl Orange. He has had 5 years of 8 or more wins that includes this year. Possible with a win this year he would have had Four 9 win seasons at state . He has a .605 % win percentage. He has 70-45 at MST
James Franklin in 7 years same time between Vandy and Penn St is 58-32 and 3-3 bowl record on trip to Rose bowl four 9 win seasons ONE 11 win season .644 win percentage
 
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tvolsfan said:
Frost has a chance to be better. Mullen certainly won’t be. Mullen is simply safer.

Gruden has the highest ceiling by a wide margin.
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How can you think that about Gruden??? ZERO college head coaching experience and the definition of the most mediocre nfl record. then there's eight years of stagnant rust that needs to be knocked off. why does everyone think gruden is so freaking great?! Mullen would be a clear cut better hire. Hands down.
 
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TNinSC said:
How can you think that about Gruden??? ZERO college head coaching experience and the definition of the most mediocre nfl record. then there's eight years of stagnant rust that needs to be knocked off. why does everyone think gruden is so freaking great?! Mullen would be a clear cut better hire. Hands down.
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Agreed. Gruden would be a disaster. This isn't the time for on the job training.
 
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TNinSC said:
How can you think that about Gruden??? ZERO college head coaching experience and the definition of the most mediocre nfl record. then there's eight years of stagnant rust that needs to be knocked off. why does everyone think gruden is so freaking great?! Mullen would be a clear cut better hire. Hands down.
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Gruden's record in the NFL is better than Mullen's SEC record, plus he's actually won something. Mullen had one really good season where he had an NFL Pro Bowler at QB and still fell apart at the end of season. Meanwhile, were it not for getting screwed by the tuck rule, Gruden takes two different franchises to the Super Bowl. Mullen is a significant drop off from Gruden. The time off from coaching means jack. The guy who the stadium was named after in Knoxville took time off, too, and didn't miss a beat. A good coach is a good coach.
 
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#800
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Hubbard said:
Not quite a scandal. A booster (not staff) was involved five years ago.

I don't think this single incident is cause for concern to any program Mullen is the head of.
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The article notes the involvement of an assistant coach on Mullen's staff.
 
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