The Official 2nd Amendment Appreciation Thread

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They had him dead to rights outside the school, didn't take the shot. They had him outnumbered inside the school within 3 minutes, did not attack. It had nothing to do with the availability of weaponry. They sat around letting children die waiting for someone with balls to show up.
Sad to say, but I completely agree with this post. When the Border Patrol BORTAC team finally shows up and says “Screw it, we’re going in.“, That shows you how ineffective the initial response was.

BORTAC, FWIW, is top shelf.
 
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Can't say that I have.
So if TLDR, I apologize, but this is worth any AR owner knowing.

I have a Form 4 Colt 6933 SBR. Then found the 6933 EPR upper, and bought two of them. Without getting into the details...I've posted them here before...I went for redundancy in everything. Both EPR uppers are outfitted identically. This is my duty / HD AR, so I spent a lot of time, and money, getting it right. Optic, light, CH, BUS, etc. Even ammo (TAP 75 SBR). All aiming for maximum lethality. Lower has a Geissele e-SSA, Hogue grip, Spikes buffer system, and Magpul B5 stock / MS-1 sling.

Week or so ago, I go out to confirm zero, and dial in my backup irons. Didn't work. Something off. Go back yesterday, and it's worse. Finally start looking at it, and the barrel is clearly off center. Take it to a friend who is a jam-up AR guy, and he spots it immediately. Left it with him to fix. He says it happens "from time to time."

Mounted my backup upper. Have a 3rd one (slick) if need be. But that is my "Active Shooter / things that go bump in the night gun", and I hung my hat on an upper that had a loose barrel nut. How does this happen? In hindsight, I used to keep it on hooks in my closet (for ready access), and it rested muzzle down in the floorboard on my patrol ride.

No more. Horizontal rest only moving forward. It's worth the extra few seconds to bring it online by knowing it will hit where it's aimed. Especially in my house, or a school hallway.

I'm glad we got it figured out, but this really bothered me.
 

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So if TLDR, I apologize, but this is worth any AR owner knowing.

I have a Form 4 Colt 6933 SBR. Then found the 6933 EPR upper, and bought two of them. Without getting into the details...I've posted them here before...I went for redundancy in everything. Both EPR uppers are outfitted identically. This is my duty / HD AR, so I spent a lot of time, and money, getting it right. Optic, light, CH, BUS, etc. Even ammo (TAP 75 SBR). All aiming for maximum lethality. Lower has a Geissele e-SSA, Hogue grip, Spikes buffer system, and Magpul B5 stock / MS-1 sling.

Week or so ago, I go out to confirm zero, and dial in my backup irons. Didn't work. Something off. Go back yesterday, and it's worse. Finally start looking at it, and the barrel is clearly off center. Take it to a friend who is a jam-up AR guy, and he spots it immediately. Left it with him to fix. He says it happens "from time to time."

Mounted my backup upper. Have a 3rd one (slick) if need be. But that is my "Active Shooter / things that go bump in the night gun", and I hung my hat on an upper that had a loose barrel nut. How does this happen? In hindsight, I used to keep it on hooks in my closet (for ready access), and it rested muzzle down in the floorboard on my patrol ride.

No more. Horizontal rest only moving forward. It's worth the extra few seconds to bring it online by knowing it will hit where it's aimed. Especially in my house, or a school hallway.

I'm glad we got it figured out, but this really bothered me.
I‘n honestly kind of surprised. Especially considering the abuse military weapons take, I’ve never seen it.
 

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I‘n honestly kind of surprised. Especially considering the abuse military weapons take, I’ve never seen it.
And I misspoke. Once he got inside (Centurion Arms FF upper), the barrel nut was fine. The hand guard bolts had worked loose, allowing the hand guard to shift and actually come in to contact with the gas block. So, easy fix, and Loctite to be safe.
 
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That makes more sense
Yeah, we talked it over this afternoon when he brought the upper back to me. Said when I told him what it was doing, "barrel nut" was what came to mind, and he said he has seen a few over the years, usually from home-builds. Agreed that you almost never see that with a factory rifle. With it being an 11.5" barrel, it was hard to spot just looking down the barrel shroud, but when you took the "suicide look" from the muzzle end, you could see it. He said once he took the shroud off, the barrel and gas tube looked good. Started playing with the hand guard, and spotted it then. He took a pic and showed me where the shroud had slid forward almost 1/16", and then yawed ever so slightly right. Enough that the shroud was touching the gas block. He put it all back together right, tight, and then used LocTite on the shroud screws. Said I'm good to go; expects the irons to be on from the get-go; and warned me I'll have to make a big adjustment on the Aimpoint. Said to take the dot to the irons once they are zero'd, and that should get me close.

Hindsight being 20/20, the very instant that rounds starting "flying" when I knew I was dead-on and with good trigger discipline, I should have stopped right there and taken him that gun. Running 75 HPBT (Miwall) through it, on a good day I can shoot sub 2" groups at 100 yards. At 50? Round after round up a rat's butt. It's not me, it's the gun. So that being my CQB gun, I use a 50/200 (MPBR) zero. Up until now, it has never failed me.

I have taken a vow to shoot my way back into "fighting shape"; joined the local range; and plan to shoot every other Saturday and/or Sunday after church. I figure it'll take me 3-6 months to get back to where I was, although I have no way to practice the other, sometimes more critical skills, that go along with good basic marksmanship. There's a nearby LE range that has a 180-degree shoot range with pop-ups, but I can only get there three, maybe four times a year. It is what it is. I just need to get back to being confident that I'll be a hard target if I ever am one. Heck, the last time we did Active Shooter training, a new deputy tripped over me on a center-fed door entry, spilling him and knocking me off my hostile in the hard corner. We had to stop and explain to him how important the little stuff like foot placement is when making a dynamic entry. You don't just roll through the door. It's a ballet. A deadly one.

It sucks getting old and grumpy. You're old, and you tend to be grumpy a lot. What I have, what I can do with it, and what I know pales in comparison to some of the folks on here. I try to keep it simple. AR's and 45's. Makes it easier to pile up ammo when you're only buying two calibers. And a .45 is a .45. Glock, RIA, Springfield (times two now). Once you learn how to control that "thump" a .45 gives you, you could shoot it from a potato gun. All that changes is the sights and the trigger.

Love VN, and this thread. Lotta gunpowder here. Fun to be a part of it.

Go Vols.
 
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Layaway with a friend?
Would this friend be an FFL?
You sounding like a cross between my wife and the ATF. Lol.

Nah, I was up in the mountains at a car meet with some friends and we got to talking guns. I was mentioning how I like my 865xl, but it shoots like a smaller gun and I may try a G19 for the winter. He tells me he has one he’s tired of and will sell at a stupid price. I thought he was joking, but a few weeks later he sends me a message, says name a fair price. I said the one stipulation is, I don’t want to run my finances a thin, because I just bought a car and I wasn’t planning to buy a new gun. He was fine to have me send in 4 payments before he sends it. He’ll be shipping out to my preferred FFL. I’m excited.

After this, I think my “last” purchase will be a S&W j-frame revolver.
 
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You sounding like a cross between my wife and the ATF. Lol.

Nah, I was up in the mountains at a car meet with some friends and we got to talking guns. I was mentioning how I like my 865xl, but it shoots like a smaller gun and I may try a G19 for the winter. He tells me he has one he’s tired of and will sell at a stupid price. I thought he was joking, but a few weeks later he sends me a message, says name a fair price. I said the one stipulation is, I don’t want to run my finances a thin, because I just bought a car and I wasn’t planning to buy a new gun. He’ll be shipping out to my preferred FFL. I’m excited.

After this, I think my “last” purchase will be a S&W j-frame revolver.
I have a friend who is an FFL and will help me out from time to time with a “layaway “ while I figure out how to explain the purchase to the red women
 

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I have a friend who is an FFL and will help me out from time to time with a “layaway “ while I figure out how to explain the purchase to the red women
Thankfully I’ve been successful enough to not have to explain anymore*. Hell, she’s the one who wanted me to get the 2nd safe lol

*at least guns and ammo. She’s on board with those.
 
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Anyone run into this yet?
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Now you can only use FedEx/UPS to ship if you have an FFL and you have to use Adult Signature which adds $9-10. USPS already bans plebs from shipping guns. One bite at a time...
I got an email from a manufacturer about this. Said they will charge a restock fee for stuff that is returned for customer failure to allow a scan of their ID.
 

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On its face it makes sense as there are categories for most product categories or stores. However, I want to know more about how transaction flags would be used in attempting to prevent crime. I only buy 3-5 firearms per year, so would that draw attention? I’m more curious than suspicious.

Apparently the category flags were created after 9/11 to be able to identify transactions consistent with potential terrorist activity. Apparently gun stores did not have a category, until now, but the actual cards have to decided if they want to use them.
 

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