The Official 2nd Amendment Appreciation Thread

#5,577
#5,577
InVOLuntary said:
Yea, I think since the bullet was smaller it just blew the bullet out. Obviously a lot of the gas would have escaped around. We ran a cleaning rod through it to make sure the barrel wasn't obstructed.
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How good or bad was the accuracy?
 
#5,579
#5,579
I picked up my 308 this weekend. I think I’m going to order one the optics that was listed on here.

Ammo is my next question. Seems these guns perform better with a heavier load. 1:10 twist.

(GV, I need your help here)

Also, it has the adjustable trigger. Is this something I can do or does it need to go to a professional?
 
#5,580
#5,580
Obsessed said:
I picked up my 308 this weekend. I think I’m going to order one the optics that was listed on here.

Ammo is my next question. Seems these guns perform better with a heavier load. 1:10 twist.

(GV, I need your help here)

Also, it has the adjustable trigger. Is this something I can do or does it need to go to a professional?
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For accuracy I'd start with a box of 168 and 175 Federal Gold Medal Match.
 
#5,581
#5,581
Obsessed said:
I picked up my 308 this weekend. I think I’m going to order one the optics that was listed on here.

Ammo is my next question. Seems these guns perform better with a heavier load. 1:10 twist.

(GV, I need your help here)

Also, it has the adjustable trigger. Is this something I can do or does it need to go to a professional?
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What manner of .308 are we talking here?

And what H-Dog said. Adding Hornady TAP 168 grain into that mix as a possibility as well.
 
#5,584
#5,584
Obsessed said:
I picked up my 308 this weekend. I think I’m going to order one the optics that was listed on here.

Ammo is my next question. Seems these guns perform better with a heavier load. 1:10 twist.

(GV, I need your help here)

Also, it has the adjustable trigger. Is this something I can do or does it need to go to a professional?
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My .308 is a 20 inch with 1:10 twist. It loves Federal Gold Medal Match in 168 and Black Hills Match in 175.

The FGGM 168 can be had for $16.99 at sgammo.com right now. If you're not going to be shooting past 600 yards, start there. The Black Hills is harder to find bargains on and runs around $30.00.
 
#5,585
#5,585
Grand Vol said:
What manner of .308 are we talking here?

And what H-Dog said. Adding Hornady TAP 168 grain into that mix as a possibility as well.
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Hunting rifle.
It has a heavy barrel and the 700 adl action

Some reviews didn’t care much for the trigger (which if memory serves me right, you don’t either)
 
#5,586
#5,586
txbo said:
My .308 is a 20 inch with 1:10 twist. It loves Federal Gold Medal Match in 168 and Black Hills Match in 175.

The FGGM 168 can be had for $16.99 at sgammo.com right now. If you're not going to be shooting past 600 yards, start there. The Black Hills is harder to find bargains on and runs around $30.00.
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250-300 yards max

I wouldn’t mind learning to make some shots that far though.
 
#5,587
#5,587
Obsessed said:
Hunting rifle.
It has a heavy barrel and the 700 adl action

Some reviews didn’t care much for the trigger (which if memory serves me right, you don’t either)
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For hunting the Federal Fusion has been very accurate for a lot of people and isn't very expensive. Maybe worth a shot.
 
#5,588
#5,588
Obsessed said:
Hunting rifle.
It has a heavy barrel and the 700 adl action

Some reviews didn’t care much for the trigger (which if memory serves me right, you don’t either)
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It's not hard to do but to do it correctly take some attention to detail. You can end up with a trigger with too much creep or dangerously light. Many people do it themselves but few do it the right way.

I'd suggest taking it to a professional but here is the proper process if you think you are qualified.

Check to make sure the chamber is empty before anything else. You'll want to gather some penetrating oil, an Allen wrench set, precision screwdriver, and Elmer's glue. I also recommend a trigger scale to make things as accurate and safe as possible.

First thing, remove your barreled action from the stock. Use a 5/32" Allen/hex wrench. Remove the front screw three-fourths of the way. Then remove the rear screw all the way. Make sure you remember that the long screw goes in the tang area, and the short one goes in front of the receiver.

After the barreled action is out, use a penetrating oil to soak the three trigger screws. If the trigger has never been touched before, there will be a sealant on the screws. Simply scrape it off before applying the oil. Let the oil soak 10 minutes or so. You'll then want to turn the screws in and out three or four times so that you make sure there is no binding.

You will then want to back out all three trigger screws two or three turns, careful not to back them out so far the springs fall out of place. You simply want to take the tension off the internal springs. You will then work the bolt. Slowly start turning the sear engagement screw, located on the back side of the trigger, in until the sear releases and the firing pin drops. Back it out exactly one half a turn.

Next, the over-travel will need adjusted. This screw is located on the top front of the trigger above the pull-weight screw. Do not recock the rifle. You will want to turn it inward until you feel resistance. When properly adjusted, the slop will be taken out of the trigger and it will move back and forth very little. Do not over tighten. Though the travel will be reduced, the pull weight will not be able to be adjusted. If not turned in enough, the pull can be adjusted lighter, but it will be very sloppy and unpredictable.

You are now ready to recock the gun. Use the trigger scale and see how heavy the weight is and if its to your liking. If not you will have to adjust the pull-weight screw, below the over-travel screw. Inward increases the weight and outward lightens it. Trial and error will get it to the point that is to your liking. As soon as its to your liking, you will want to try it approximately 20 times. Work the bolt quickly as if you were going to in the field. This will show you if the sear will accidentally release or not. This could be disastrous. You'll want to make sure the pull-weight is consistent and without slop or excessive over/under-travel. You'll shoot better groups with a 3 lb trigger that is consistent rather than a 1 lb trigger that isn't.

After you are convinced everything is set where it should be, take the Elmer's glue and put a few drops over the screws. I use Elmer's because it will stop them from creeping out of adjustment over time but will be easy to remove if you so wish to change your weight for a different application later on. Finger nail polish and lock-tight compounds are more difficult to remove, but effective. Allow the glue to dry fifteen minutes.

You'll then want to put the thing back together. Slide the barreled action back into the stock. Put in the front (short) screw first and turn in half way. Then put in the tang screw and turn in all the way tightly. Then turn the front screw the rest of the way. If you have an HS stock, you'll want to put them in 65 in-lbs. If you have a wooden stock, many have different ideas on how tight to turn them, but that is not a discussion for here and now. After all is tight, check the trigger pull for safety against ADs. Slam the butt stock of the cocked rifle down on the floor 10 times or so to make sure it won't go off.
 
#5,589
#5,589
Obsessed said:
Hunting rifle.
It has a heavy barrel and the 700 adl action

Some reviews didn’t care much for the trigger (which if memory serves me right, you don’t either)
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It's not that I didn't care for, it's the matter they went bang when they shouldn't have a few years ago.

700s are nice because of the plethora of aftermarket parts for them.
 
#5,590
#5,590
GV, I'm really pleased with that light mount. And it's far better, IMO, than the Mossie. The Mossie mounts at 12 o'clock, so you have to use the pressure switch add-on to use the Scout light. The mount you sent, with the 9 o'clock mount, is much more solid (4 screws), and lets me use my thumb to activate the light. Solid-er, simpler, and good-er.

Good trade. Much grass. Now...Jobu needs a refill.

Mañana.
 
#5,591
#5,591
GreyWolf1129 said:
GV, I'm really pleased with that light mount. And it's far better, IMO, than the Mossie. The Mossie mounts at 12 o'clock, so you have to use the pressure switch add-on to use the Scout light. The mount you sent, with the 9 o'clock mount, is much more solid (4 screws), and lets me use my thumb to activate the light. Solid-er, simpler, and good-er.

Good trade. Much grass. Now...Jobu needs a refill.

Mañana.
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Just make sure the light doesn’t interfere with your M9 bayonet mounting. 👍

Note this is a legal 16” barrel yet the bayonet sits correctly on the birdcage ring!
 

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#5,593
#5,593
Update on the odd ammo. When my brother returned home, he didn't find the box the ammo came in in his safe. He's going to see if he might have stashed it in his garage. Come to find out, it's a box that he got when he cleaned out some stuff for when they were getting ready for an estate sale of his wife's mothers house. His father in law didn't own a gun in that caliber. He also, was not a reloader so while they could be reloads, he didn't reload them. Still a mystery at this point. Hopefully he can find the box.

Also, I was wrong, the bolt didn't cycle. I went in the house to grab some more targets and I thought they told me the gun cycled but when I asked him yesterday he said it didn't. Not enough pressure. They only fired it twice.
 
#5,594
#5,594
InVOLuntary said:
Update on the odd ammo. When my brother returned home, he didn't find the box the ammo came in in his safe. He's going to see if he might have stashed it in his garage. Come to find out, it's a box that he got when he cleaned out some stuff for when they were getting ready for an estate sale of his wife's mothers house. His father in law didn't own a gun in that caliber. He also, was not a reloader so while they could be reloads, he didn't reload them. Still a mystery at this point. Hopefully he can find the box.

Also, I was wrong, the bolt didn't cycle. I went in the house to grab some more targets and I thought they told me the gun cycled but when I asked him yesterday he said it didn't. Not enough pressure. They only fired it twice.
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Makes sense, the “weird sound” would have been the gas exiting around the bullet instead of behind it. Probably keyholed if it even made it to the target, I’m not sure it would have picked up the grooves on the barrel. At least it was five hundredths too small instead of five hundredths too big.
 
#5,595
#5,595
DancingOutlaw said:
Makes sense, the “weird sound” would have been the gas exiting around the bullet instead of behind it. Probably keyholed if it even made it to the target, I’m not sure it would have picked up the grooves on the barrel. At least it was five hundredths too small instead of five hundredths too big.
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Absolutely. When I was a kid, 16 or 17 my parents bought me a deer rifle for Christmas. It was a beautiful Browning semi in 30-06. They also bought me a box of ammo. I was so excited. I went outside and loaded the mag, chambered a round. Well I tried anyway. It would not chamber a round.

I got to checking and the gun shop had ordered it in .270 instead of the 30-06 as my parents suggested. If you look at the .270 it simply a necked down 30-06. The gun shop offered to exchange it but I decided to keep it. I love the 270.
 
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