The more I read about Chip Kelly...

[joevol33]

You are right.. the last thing we need is someone who wins a lot of games

I sincerely believe that’s what the UTAD feels like.

 

[Type Orange+]

I miss the bygone days of the personable, good ol' boy, southern gentleman head coach in the SEC. Suit, tie and a drawl.

But I've come to the point where the disposition of Genghis Khan would be acceptable as long as he wins.

Just win, baby!

 

[BigPoppa]

Some of you don't want a proven winmer because of personality? Wow, you deserve Butch. You turn down nick Saban if he was an option.

Winning is great.
Winning with a little integrity is even better.
See - Petrino, Bobby

 

[UT_King]

JMSqb11,

There is one man who can thread that needle. He can be his own man, exert his influence with boosters and the AD, recruit like heck, and still go to McNairy County to the Lions Club and leave 'em wanting more. People are just drawn to the guy. Merch and ticket sales would skyrocket.

Jon Gruden

Gruden would win here. Recruits would flock here.

Funny you mentioned everything but actual COACHING... and that is the reason in want Kelly. Dude can coach, I don't give a damn how well he talks at QB breakfast circle jerks.

 

[orangej]

the more I'm convinced he's not the guy.

Aloof, standoffish, despises small talk. "Weird" personality - even his closest friends admit. Hates speaking engagements. How does a guy like that recruit?

Doesn't seem at all like a good fit in an SEC culture. He won't want to speak to the Dickson Rotary Club or the Sweetwater Kiwanis. No Vol Walk for him, because "eww - fans wanting to high five me".

Yeah, yeah I know the record at Oregon. Eugene is not Knoxville.

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Sounds like Saban

 

[bnhunt]

the more I'm convinced he's not the guy.

Aloof, standoffish, despises small talk. "Weird" personality - even his closest friends admit. Hates speaking engagements. How does a guy like that recruit?

Doesn't seem at all like a good fit in an SEC culture. He won't want to speak to the Dickson Rotary Club or the Sweetwater Kiwanis. No Vol Walk for him, because "eww - fans wanting to high five me".

Yeah, yeah I know the record at Oregon. Eugene is not Knoxville.

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If he wins a lot of games, then I think the fans will be okay if he doesn't speak at the "Dickson Rotary Club". Saban is not exactly the most friendly or nicest person in the world and no one at Alabama seems to care. Why? He wins.

 

[Rocky Top Raby]

Winning is great.
Winning with a little integrity is even better.
See - Petrino, Bobby

I saw him competition for SEC titles while in the same division as Bama. Ill take him over what we have any day. As long as we aren't talking Sandusky range stuff I do not care what my coach personal life consists of.

 

[bnhunt]

The only offense I take to your comment is that we would want our coach in McNasty County.

Hope JG doesn't drive there because his car will be on cinder blocks when he gets done.

 

[JMSqb11]

I think you mean his contract is NOT sustainable, and if so, you're exactly right. See my previous post. ESPN is losing subscribers and advertisers left and right. Cutting payroll like it's going out of style.

Fortunately for us, ESPN cutting contracts isn't fixing the problem. I can't wait for Amazon or Twitter to get rights to football or NBA games.

Only thing going for ESPN is College Gameday

 

[jasonvol18]

You are right.. the last thing we need is someone who wins a lot of games

He has only been a HC 4 years in college so I wouldn't say he's won a lot of games. And winning in the pac 10 at the time USC was on probation, UCLA was sucking, Washington nor Washington St were winning..only good team while he was at Oregon was Stanford. He couldn't beat Auburn, LSU or Ohio St when they did play anyone good OOC. Then he definitely wasn't a winning NFL Coach which he has a career losing record. Just don't see anything on his resume that says he's an elite coach that deserves 6-8 mill thrown at him. Him and Mike Leach are 2 coach's that are just weird and don't think could recruit well enough in the SEC to win.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I saw him competition for SEC titles while in the same division as Bama. Ill take him over what we have any day. As long as we aren't talking Sandusky range stuff I do not care what my coach personal life consists of.

Stupid.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

You are right.. the last thing we need is someone who wins a lot of games

If he is able to win here it would be with the talent left behind by the current staff. Once he pisses off all the high school coaches in the South East and the mommas of the best recruits he will begin losing in a spectacular fashion.

Of course maybe he's the salt of the earth behind closed doors and the aloofness is just an act. Probably not but I don't personally know the man.

 

[jasonvol18]

If he wins a lot of games, then I think the fans will be okay if he doesn't speak at the "Dickson Rotary Club". Saban is not exactly the most friendly or nicest person in the world and no one at Alabama seems to care. Why? He wins.

Actually Saban is very friendly and very personable. The players and families love the man.He doesn't like the media so he isn't friendly with them but outside of that he's actually a nice, talkative coach

 

[armchair]

I can't believe people here still talk--seriously, apparently--about Gruden. Embarrassing. Oh, and there is no way that Kelly will coach here. I doubt he wants to coach in the SEC, which he knows will be difficult, and he'd be a terrible fit in Knoxville. He certainly doesn't need money or a job and so will wait until a spot more suitable for him comes along--maybe UCLA. I'm not at all suggesting that we need a good 'ole boy to coach the Vols--but we need someone with an appreciation and respect for the SEC and UT. Saban had been at lsu and won a national title there before being hired by Bama, so he was quite familiar with this league and the competition and the rigors of recruiting, etc.

 

[TennTom]

I'd consider Kelly a 2nd tier hire. People are enamored with him because his run of success at Oregon and the idea that he'll be like Saban post-NFL. It's an easy comparison to make, but once you dig beneath the surface, there are many reasons to be wary.

(1) Chip Kelly wasn't a strong recruiter, whereas Nick Saban returned to the college game precisely because he knew he was one of the best recruiters in the nation. Kelly hates recruiting (which was one of the reasons he left for the NFL to begin with).

(2) Chip Kelly's success at Oregon was highly dependent upon a Hurry Up No Huddle offense. However, the Chip Kelly offense has largely been figured out now. During his last year in Philadelphia and while he was in San Fran, opposing defenses were basically calling out Kelly's offensive plays before the plays were run. The HUNH style requires a lot of simplification and eventually the NFL defenses caught on. At this point, college defenses have also caught on. I don't think Kelly's style would be as successful this go around without significant changes.

(3) As you said, Kelly is known as aloof and stand-offish. Many of his problems at the NFL level revolved around poor relations with his players.

I'm not saying he couldn't change his style up and be successful again, but I don't consider him the "home run hire" that Nick Saban or Jim Harbaugh were. He might be able to revive the magic or his offense might struggle this time around. I'm just not sure I want to "gamble on him" when there are better candidates out there.

Jim Harbaugh a home run hire? That"s funny. Maybe at the time some might have considered him as such. Now, not so much. The guy is 6-5 in his last 11. He will likely finish 3rd again in his division 3 years in a row (right now, he's tied for 4th). He's substantially overrated relative to his salary, especially with it being millions more than Saban and Meyer. Playing the role of spoiler isn't why he was hired. His seat is getting ready to be burning hot.

I wish we could ink Kelly, but he isn't a good culture fit here at all. Not that I care about that. I still think he's UCLA bound, where in Los Angeles he doesn't stand out like a sore thumb.

 

[JMSqb11]

He has only been a HC 4 years in college so I wouldn't say he's won a lot of games. And winning in the pac 10 at the time USC was on probation, UCLA was sucking, Washington nor Washington St were winning..only good team while he was at Oregon was Stanford. He couldn't beat Auburn, LSU or Ohio St when they did play anyone good OOC. Then he definitely wasn't a winning NFL Coach which he has a career losing record. Just don't see anything on his resume that says he's an elite coach that deserves 6-8 mill thrown at him. Him and Mike Leach are 2 coach's that are just weird and don't think could recruit well enough in the SEC to win.

You don't go 46-7 as a head coach with a national title appearance, Two Rose Bowl appearances, and score 40+ per game because other teams are bad.... It happens because you are a great coach.

If that wasn't the case, Butch would have been 12-0 in SEC East games in 2015 and 2016......


Chip Kelly is the best coach available right now and he loves Knoxville.

 

[MurphyVol]

the more I'm convinced he's not the guy.

Aloof, standoffish, despises small talk. "Weird" personality - even his closest friends admit. Hates speaking engagements. How does a guy like that recruit?

Doesn't seem at all like a good fit in an SEC culture. He won't want to speak to the Dickson Rotary Club or the Sweetwater Kiwanis. No Vol Walk for him, because "eww - fans wanting to high five me".

Yeah, yeah I know the record at Oregon. Eugene is not Knoxville.

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I don't think you'll have to worry about it

 

[StillStanding]

the more I'm convinced he's not the guy.

Aloof, standoffish, despises small talk. "Weird" personality - even his closest friends admit. Hates speaking engagements. How does a guy like that recruit?

Doesn't seem at all like a good fit in an SEC culture. He won't want to speak to the Dickson Rotary Club or the Sweetwater Kiwanis. No Vol Walk for him, because "eww - fans wanting to high five me".

Yeah, yeah I know the record at Oregon. Eugene is not Knoxville.

Pass

Yeah! Vols need a salesman instead of a general! :shakehead:

 

[Biopsyman]

If he is able to win here it would be with the talent left behind by the current staff. Once he pisses off all the high school coaches in the South East and the mommas of the best recruits he will begin losing in a spectacular fashion.

Of course maybe he's the salt of the earth behind closed doors and the aloofness is just an act. Probably not but I don't personally know the man.

Losing is spectacular fashion... how is different with butch and his gimmicks? Cmon really

 

[Manvol]

Jon Gruden makes 6.5 million per year to talk about football on tv. Why would anyone give that up to do all the hard work a head coach has to do? It would probably take 10 million per year for him to even consider it. Not realistic.

Donald Trump is our president for 450k a year. Make Tn great again.

 

[Biopsyman]

Donald Trump is our president for 450k a year.

Trump is not taking a salary .. Jones is robbing the university

 

[golfballs]

Definitely not a cultural fit. That would be my only real concern. But the pros far outweigh the cons IMO

 

[jasonvol18]

You don't go 46-7 as a head coach with a national title appearance, Two Rose Bowl appearances, and score 40+ per game because other teams are bad.... It happens because you are a great coach.

If that wasn't the case, Butch would have been 12-0 in SEC East games in 2015 and 2016......


Chip Kelly is the best coach available right now and he loves Knoxville.

That is just not true. If you are playing garbage teams that very easily can happen. Hell Jim McElwain has won the East his first 2 years does that make him a great coach? So your theory doesn't hold much relevance. He wasn't there long to enough to determine what he could do with players he was recruiting and bringing in. Belotti left Chip in great shape all he had to do was not screw it up. Hell I love Orlando but doesn't mean I wanna move there and live

 

[alaVOL]

the more I'm convinced he's not the guy.

Aloof, standoffish, despises small talk. "Weird" personality - even his closest friends admit. Hates speaking engagements. How does a guy like that recruit?

Doesn't seem at all like a good fit in an SEC culture. He won't want to speak to the Dickson Rotary Club or the Sweetwater Kiwanis. No Vol Walk for him, because "eww - fans wanting to high five me".

Yeah, yeah I know the record at Oregon. Eugene is not Knoxville.

Pass

Finally. A little research.

 

[JMSqb11]

That is just not true. If you are playing garbage teams that very easily can happen. And against the ranked teams he coached against he didn't win many of them and that's how you determine if he's a great coach when there's only 4 years to make a determination. Hell Jim McElwain has won the East his first 2 years does that make him a great coach? So your theory doesn't hold much relevance. He wasn't there long to enough to determine what he could do with players he was recruiting and bringing in. Belotti left Chip in great shape all he had to do was not screw it up. Hell I love Orlando but doesn't mean I wanna move there and live

Good coaches don't luck into 3 consecutive conference titles and 4 straight BCS Bowls. Kelly went 2-2 in said bowls and did it at Oregon of all places.

Also, you are wrong about Chip being left a great stable. He was there as OC and recruiting that stable as well. He was to Belotti what Malzahn was to Chizik at Auburn. Kelly was running that offense and Belotti was just there.

Also, Chip left Oregon with Mariota and a lot of other offensive firepower. To say he couldn't build around "his kids" is a joke.

And the Jimmy Mac has nothing to do with this conversation. Mac had more overall AND conference losses in 2 years than Chip had in 4 years. Are you really comparing the two? Put down the pipe man.