The meltdown that is happening on the Vandy message boards

This just pisses me off. I come to the vandy bashing thread and find VN members having a pissing match about our HC. Take that crap over to the FF. On to the vandy bashing...........
 
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Rather than go all internet tough guy, how about a little reasoned, honest analysis of his first 25 games here? Nothing crazy, just all the signature wins/games where you think his schemes and adjustments, where his coaching acumen either won us the game or kept us in a game vs a team with superior talent. And if you would, balance those examples with the games where we were either blown out, or lost when we clearly or likely should've won.

KB what you and Chatt-townVOL don't really seem to get is that your Xs and Os are limited by what your personnel allow. To push that limit typically leads to loss of execution.
 
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Vanderbilt announced quarterback Patton Robinette's career is over, citing health concerns over concussions and his upcoming entrance into medical school.

Robinette entered last season as the Commodores' starting quarterback and he finished spring practice as the presumed starter last week.

Robinette told Vanderbilt coach Derek Mason of his decision on Thursday and told teammates during a brief gathering Friday morning, according to a Vanderbilt news release.

Robinette will enter Vanderbilt School of Medicine this summer. He plans to study in the field of orthopedics.
 
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Vanderbilt announced quarterback Patton Robinette's career is over, citing health concerns over concussions and his upcoming entrance into medical school.

Robinette entered last season as the Commodores' starting quarterback and he finished spring practice as the presumed starter last week.

Robinette told Vanderbilt coach Derek Mason of his decision on Thursday and told teammates during a brief gathering Friday morning, according to a Vanderbilt news release.

Robinette will enter Vanderbilt School of Medicine this summer. He plans to study in the field of orthopedics.
Past health concerns. Doubtful. The kid knows how crappy this team is. More likely that he just doesn't want to get the crap beat out of him and be embarrassed for an entire season.
 
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Vanderbilt announced quarterback Patton Robinette's career is over, citing health concerns over concussions and his upcoming entrance into medical school.

Robinette entered last season as the Commodores' starting quarterback and he finished spring practice as the presumed starter last week.

Robinette told Vanderbilt coach Derek Mason of his decision on Thursday and told teammates during a brief gathering Friday morning, according to a Vanderbilt news release.

Robinette will enter Vanderbilt School of Medicine this summer. He plans to study in the field of orthopedics.

Can't fault a guy for planning for a career after football.
 
It's not like this guy was a world beater anyway. But I'd say the vandy coaches are piss that he took the first team reps all spring. Good thing they have another 3 QBs that suck.
 
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Past health concerns. Doubtful. The kid knows how crappy this team is. More likely that he just doesn't want to get the crap beat out of him and be embarrassed for an entire season.

Yeah. Concussions are going to become the stock excuse from now on when players just want to quit. Why did he bother with spring practice?
 
Yeah. Concussions are going to become the stock excuse from now on when players just want to quit. Why did he bother with spring practice?

Probably thought things would be ok and then saw just how bad they were going to be on offense this year during spring practice and had nightmares for a week straight before retiring.
 
There is a REAL chance that Vandy goes 1-11 next year, and that's if the Governors don't rise up and spank that azz. Western Kentucky is actually a better team, and I don't see any other win on that schedule. The next few years are going to be bad even by Vanderbilt standards.

W Kentucky
Georgia
Austin Peay
Ole Miss
Middle Tennessee
South Carolina
Missouri
Houston
Florida
Kentucky
Texas A&M
Tennessee
 
There is a REAL chance that Vandy goes 1-11 next year, and that's if the Governors don't rise up and spank that azz. Western Kentucky is actually a better team, and I don't see any other win on that schedule. The next few years are going to be bad even by Vanderbilt standards.

W Kentucky
Georgia
Austin Peay
Ole Miss
Middle Tennessee
South Carolina
Missouri
Houston
Florida
Kentucky
Texas A&M
Tennessee

I see a 3-9 or 4-8
 
I see a 3-9 or 4-8

Where do you see 4 wins? Bc right now wku and Houston really are better teams.


WKU only brings back an offense that avg almost 45 ppg and a young defense from last yr that should have improved bc they return everyone. Also they added a few of UABs better players esp the Defensive Tackle. Theres no way in hell Vandy (esp without Robinette) can score with them.

Houston has a stout defense and a very athletic QB. They always have real athletes at houston and they have several big school transfers. That game is also at Houston.
 
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as you say, everything off the field is almost perfect, and on the field if you don't see the drastic improvement from year to year you are blind. so is he there yet? no. will he get there? maybe.

If Jones was fired tomorrow he would leave TN a better team than what he got. which no coach since Majors left can say that.

1. What? No, you missed the point, which was we were down 35-0 and a couple of insignificant dropped passes by Smith and Downs wouldn't have had much to no impact on that. The better question is, IMHO, is why were we down by 5 tds at the half? Could Butch and Company have done something schematically to keep us within even 14-21 Pts than have us trail by 35, which essentially ended the game at the half?

2. Part I. Yes, we adjusted defensively were finally able to slow Bama down by only giving up 7 2nd half Pts.....fortunately, Bama fumbles on the 1yd line while going in for another TD in the 4th qtr on the one yard line, otherwise we'd have lost 41-20. Btw......check the box score again.....we didn't score all 20 of our points in the 2nd half like you said....we scored 10 Pts in each half for our 20 Pt total.

Part II. So, we can't effectively scheme our offense so that UTC, an FCS school, doesn't run roughshod over our OL to the tune of 5 sacks......which by the way, was a season game-high for the Mocs. By comparison, they only gave up 1 sack vs Wofford, 1 sack vs The Citadel, and NO SACKS vs both UNH and Jscksonville State. But of course Austin Peay gave up 3 sacks to UTC, so maybe I'm all wet here.

3. Are you saying a 45 pt loss to Oregon (which included giving up 59 unanswered Pts in 2.5 qtrs) or a 31pt loss to a good, not great OleMiss team, shows no less improvement by Tennessee than a 3 pt loss to Georgia? I certainly disagree there....I'll take the game where we're playing head to head, point for point and fall just short as an example of progress, rather than a game where we're blown out by halftime and lose by 4-5 touchdowns.

Also, Our staff is ultimately responsible for our players' success and failure. If you're gonna give Butch credit for the last 2 SCar and Georgia games, you also have to criticize him for the bad and blowout losses if you're gonna be fair.

4. I'm not saying HE CANT DO IT....I'm saying I've personally seen little to evidence that HE HAS DONE IT to this point....and if you're gonn try to project the future, the best thing to do is look to the past/current data you have on which to base that opinion.

5. Finally, I'm not blind, I see the incremental progress. I'm just suggesting that it's primarily due to an increase in talent, and a 2nd year of familiarity with the system for thd returning players and great improvements in team strength and conditioning....not Jones' ability to out coach his counterpart on the other sideline on Saturdays


Oh yeah....I hate Vanderbilt!!
 
Sure Vandy will stink it up in football but they are well ahead of UT in basketball and baseball right now --- Hart needs to get it right this time
 
It is so sad/funny/pathetic/annoying that Vandy fans always point to their academic standards as an excuse for being awful.

"We would be great, but our school is just so incredible academically that we can't recruit top players like all the other SEC schools! It's OK though! We're Vandy, and we're #1 in the things that REALLY matter."
:lolabove:

Last I checked, Berkeley, Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, and a bunch of other schools maintained high academic standards and still manage to field decent or good teams. Hell, even Harvard was ranked ahead of Vanderbilt in the Sagarin Rankings last year. LOL. Are they going to try to pull the "academics" card on them too? Are they going to acknowledge that UT's quarterback was recruited by several top Ivies but chose to come to Tennessee? No, they won't, because that would mean some serious cognitive dissonance for them.

"Rivalry" aside, Coach Mason seems like a good guy. But beyond that, I don't have a positive word to say about Vandy. Their students are ultra-snobby, their fanbase is nonexistent, and everyone associated with the institution looks down on others and pretends they're the new Cambridge or Oxford or something. Oh wow...so their Chancellor learned to game US News College Rankings, which don't matter anyway. Is anyone supposed to be impressed? LOL...a few months I read an article in "The Vanderbilt Hustler" (yes, that's what their student newspaper is really called) that said something like "our student body's pride rises and falls with the release of the annual US News College Rankings." :lolabove:

Despite all this, all 12 Vandy fans stick to this same stupid script about their school being so great that it's out of reach for all the good football players. LOL. Yeah, they're such an academic powerhouse that they recently recruited four Rhodes Sc...I mean...gang rapists.

One last thing. Beyond US News and World Report, who determined that Vandy is such a great school anyway? Check this out: TIME's Most Influential Schools, Ranked By Alumni. TIME magazine set this up as a new way of looking at university prestige. It measures the influence of all US universities' alumni on the world, not SAT scores, which is all Vandy cares about. In between Vanderbilt and UT, guess who comes out on top? Try it for yourself and see ;).

In the grand scheme of things, Vandy is a pretty small player both academically and athletically, so maybe I shouldn't waste so much time thinking about this. I know this, but Vandy "fans" are so annoying, it's impossible to get away.
 
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It is so sad/funny/pathetic/annoying that Vandy fans always point to their academic standards as an excuse for being awful.

"We would be great, but our school is just so incredible academically that we can't recruit top players like all the other SEC schools! It's OK though! We're Vandy, and we're #1 in the things that REALLY matter."
:y.

The hate flows with ease for you. Post more often
 
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