The loss of Wilcox ........

#51
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Wilcox was coaching with very undermanned personnel while at UT. Sal is installing a brand new scheme which takes more than 4 games to adjust for the players. So comparing scores/yardage to make an argument is stupid.
 
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Give me a break. Stanford's offense is anemic at best and was absolutely awful last night.

Plus, the play-calling was horrible. The overreliance on the passing game and the deep ball in particular reminded me quite a lot of Tennessee, with key differences being (a) Nunes is not in the same league as Tyler Bray (who himself is not in the same league as the collegiate Andrew Luck), (b) Stepfon Taylor is way better than any backs the Vols have and would star in the SEC, and (c) Stanford's WRs are awful. Upshot: Stanford should have eaten up clock and pounded Washington with the run game and short passes and let its excellent defense win the game.

Wilcock had nothing to do with Stanford's impotence. His scheme versus LSU is far more illustrative of his skills as a DC.
 
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BruinVol said:
Akron or LSU cause more reason to worry about a coordinators ability?
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Akron really only scored 2 TDs that game. You can't blame the pick 6 on CSS.

I recognize that LSU is a great team, but their offense is not what makes them great. JW's D gave up 41 to an LSU offense that barely scored double digits against a pretty bad Auburn squad. You can't say that they stopped Stanford and are therefore great while completely ignoring what happened 2 weeks ago.
 
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bebecerveza said:
4 games = taking too long to adjust to the new D?
UGA was not good the first yr they switched to the 3-4.
AL was not good the first yr they switched to the 3-4.

It takes at least a yr to get comfortable with a switch to the 3-4, you should see improvement as the season goes on, but hoping to have it down after only 4 games is completely unrealistic, but such is most of the fan base today.
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Georgia finished 2010 ranked 23 in the nation giving up 328.54 yards/game. At the end of Week 4 UGA was 32/307.25ypg. That was with 3 SEC games including Arkansas.

Alabama finished 2007 ranked 31 in the nation giving up 345.45 yards/game. At the end of Week 5 (NCAA stat page only had week 2/5/7/10/end) Bama was 39/330.80ypg. And that was with 3 SEC games and FSU.

Tennessee is currently 68 in the nation and giving up 392.25ypg. We know we haven't played juggernauts on Offense. Florida is ranked 62 in the nation with 407.50ypg. Without our game they're averaging 360ypg.

Not giving opinions, only facts.
 
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OrangeHammer said:
Stanfords qb Nunes lost them the game.. not Washingtons D. He looked TERRIBLE. Glad he didn't end up here.
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Totally agree. He had a great game against USC but looked AWFUL last night. He was throwing simple screen passes in the ground and looked rattled throughout.
 
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OrangeHammer said:
Stanfords qb Nunes lost them the game.. not Washingtons D. He looked TERRIBLE. Glad he didn't end up here.
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Stanford "most definitely" has offensive issues this year. Prior to last nights game they had played San Jose St., Duke, and USCw. They were nationally ranked #8 in the polls but sported such daunting national numbers as #75 rushing offense, #88 passing offense, and #93 total offense. USCw was in terms of yardage their best performance so far this season. All three of those first games were at home and obviously last night was their first road game of the season.

Congrats to CJW for the win. Wanna take on the #57 rushing offense in the nation with the #8 passing offense and #17 in total offense? We have an open date Oct 6th. :)
 
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BruinVol said:
Watching the great gameplay JW had last night made me realize that his departure may have indeed been the most crushing blow to DD and his ability to get this turned around. Most of us think SS was a great hire but reality is a new defensive scheme was destined to take some time to implement. Let's hope SS can lesson the growing pains process but IMO JW would have given DD a much better shot at survival this season.
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Are you serious man.Why are we comparing Sunseri and Wilcox.I knew going into this year that the defense would have some growing pains.Lets just hope they can survive tomorrow.
 
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golfballs said:
Also...

Josh Nunes sucks. I can draw up a winning gameplan around that
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I thought josh Nunes played well. His receivers (1 in particular) dropped multiple game changing passes. The one receiver dropped 3 passes, that were thrown perfectly and would have been 20-30 yard gains. Nunes played better than what people are saying.
 
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Despite the criticisms here, Wilcox was a good coordinator. I think Sunseri's offense will be superior next year. Just like with UGA, there will be a bit of a transition period.
 
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schwompal said:
Despite the criticisms here, Wilcox was a good coordinator. I think Sunseri's offense will be superior next year. Just like with UGA, there will be a bit of a transition period.
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Most people with some knowledge have this stance.
 
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VolNation Rule: Whenever a player/coach decides to go to another school over UT, we're always better without them here.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Wilcox D held Florida to way less yardage than SS did. And Sal has more talent this year. He held Fla to fewer points despite playing a short field 3 times due to turnovers and a blocked punt. We finished in the mid 30's in total D last year despite starting 3 true freshman and playing the toughest schedule in the country. What else do you want?
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That was one game before we consistently got our arses torched game in and game out.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
I did mention our ranking for the entire season and how I thought it was impressive against the schedule we played for the ENTIRE YEAR. Did you just skip over that part?
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What entire year of SS are you comparing?
 
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BruinVol said:
Watching the great gameplay JW had last night made me realize that his departure may have indeed been the most crushing blow to DD and his ability to get this turned around. Most of us think SS was a great hire but reality is a new defensive scheme was destined to take some time to implement. Let's hope SS can lesson the growing pains process but IMO JW would have given DD a much better shot at survival this season.
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What did his D do against LSU???? The PAC-12 isn't the SEC and his defense couldn't stop KY last year. Better off without him!!!!!!!!
 
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as was mentioned earlier, Nunes looked horrible and #88 dropped critical passes!

Stanford was moving the ball on their last possession. In other words, the bend don't break was allowing Stanford to march down the field. If Nunes was remotely accurate, they probably would have scored and won.

On 4th and 4 Nunes throws a jump ball to his TE (6'8") who is matched up against a 5'10" DB and it was intercepted!?

UW's D bowed up, but Stanford's offense contributed to the loss by peeing all over themselves.
 
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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
That was one game before we consistently got our arses torched game in and game out.
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What games did we get torched that we didn't start a true freshman or Matt Simms at QB. People making excuses for Sal saying that Chaney's O couldn't keep the D off the field. The same could be said for Wilcox D. Once again, 90 teams had worse total D's than we did last year. NONE of them played the schedule that we did. The people who gripe about Wilcox are butt hurt that he left us. They complained about Chavis, soon they will start on Sal. That's why you have to look at the statistics. The perception that Wilcox D couldn't make it in the SEC is a myth.
 
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BruinVol said:
I could make a strong arguement that Stanford is one of the most physical offenses in the country and stopping that was something most thought JW couldn't do.
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They are a physical team. To be at the top in the SEC a team must play physical along with speed. I may be wrong but I do not think Stanford has the overall team speed as the better SEC teams have.
 
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San Diego Vol said:
What entire year of SS are you comparing?
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I never made any comparison other than their stats from the Fla game. That seems fair since that is the only common opponent they have had so far. The other statement I made was based on Wilcox stats vs the rest of the nation for the entire year. I'm well aware that Sal hasn't coached a full year to compare to JW full year.
 
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