The injuries and Alabama.

[SeniorDrill]

Don't think I'm making an excuse for the totally inexplicable happenings this season. I'm not. But I just wonder if Alabama had all of the injuries occur in the same places in the offensive and defensive schemes that we have had this year if their record would be any better than ours. I doubt if it would.

If you took three of their all SEC performers out of their lineup at the start of the season and followed that with losing basically your entire offensive and defensive lines the rest of the season, would they be any better than 5-3? How many of our losses have been directly caused by breakdowns of those new players inserted into the lineup? The answer is A&M and South Carolina. Without those next men up, we would be 7-1.

What about Florida or any other SEC team you plug into the scenario? None of them would probably have had any of the miraculous wins we had. Just food for thought!
:zeitung_lesen:

 

[CroKev]

Bama has 5* backups throughout their 2nd teams. You have to go to the 3rd string guys before you find the 4 stars.

 

[volfannbama]

Both of them would still beat South Carolina.

 

[rjd970]

Perhaps if we put away the teams we were supposed to early the starters wouldn't be so banged up this late in the season.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

South Carolina was full of freshman, 2 stars and walk-ons. There is no excuse in hell that would make last night acceptable, period! There was a reason UT was 14 point favs and to get that product after the bye week is a direct reflection of CBJ. Hes terrible, his system sucks and I refuse to buy his bs anymore.

 

[Sara Clark]

More than injury issues with this team. It probably won't be fixed during the season, probably during the off season. I also think it's time for some players to move on at seasons end.

 

[GetEmVols]

Don't think I'm making an excuse for the totally inexplicable happenings this season. I'm not. But I just wonder if Alabama had all of the injuries occur in the same places in the offensive and defensive schemes that we have had this year if their record would be any better than ours. I doubt if it would.

If you took three of their all SEC performers out of their lineup at the start of the season and followed that with losing basically your entire offensive and defensive lines the rest of the season, would they be any better than 5-3? How many of our losses have been directly caused by breakdowns of those new players inserted into the lineup? The answer is A&M and South Carolina. Without those next men up, we would be 7-1.

What about Florida or any other SEC team you plug into the scenario? None of them would probably have had any of the miraculous wins we had. Just food for thought!
:zeitung_lesen:

Bama would have beaten Appy State at the beginning of the year by 50 when they had a full healthy roster. We did not. Injuries are not the reason we are bad... we were bad before that.

 

[agent|orange]

South Carolina's QB is a Freshman. South Carolina's RB is a Freshman. South Carolina's top 3 WRs, in order of yardage, are a Sophomore, Freshman and Sophomore.

We got beat by Freshmen and Sophomores by a bad coach in his first year. Pretty sure we were hearing nothing but excuses when the roles were reversed.

Make no mistake. USC is a bad football team and Muschamp is a bad football coach. Muschamp just happens to be better than Botch.

 

[JimVol]

No excuses...next man up..injuries happen that's for sure..every team deals with injuries. But this team has a serious hole in strength and conditioning....there are just too many injuries.

Look in Jalen Hurds and other players eyes... I see no faith in the "process" or the "bricks"...

I see poor coaching across the board and a few great players who make it look better than it really is. If you can't at least play inspired ball, loaded with talent we have now (even with young players), I have serious doubts about the quality of the coaching and leadership the team is receiving.

And that's not negavol, I've been a huge supporter, but the on field product has been terrible this year (even in the close wins)

Butch can turn this around but he HAS to surround himself with better coaches and loosen up and let them coach.

Thanks,

Jimvol

 

[1truevol]

The reality is that fans on here don't want to hear that logic. They're out for blood. Injuries, lack of leadership (injured captains), toughest schedule in the SEC...etc etc. are not good enough. I'm not making excuses...last night's loss was as bad as we've had in years (and it could of been avoided). The team wasn't ready to play from the start (which wasn't a shock). I was disappointed Butch didn't give Dormady a shot in hopes of a spark (Dobbs throw game was embarrassing). Butch and co. will earn their money trying to salvage what's left of the season. At this point things could really get ugly.

 

[CAVPUT]

No offense, but you seem to be overlooking another possibility. Take away a Hail Mary, the fumble recovery, and a game filled with gift turnovers, and this could be a 6 loss team. We've had some very good luck tone where we are at the moment. Personally, I don't think we are all that good. I also don't think we have a solid coaching staff. Several spots could and should be upgraded. This is the SEC....the best of the best. We aren't going to out talent the competition every week. At some point, we need the X's and O's to get the victory. We are lacking in so many areas. Maybe butch is right. Maybe it does take 6 years. We certainly have a long way to go based on what I've seen this year. We likely have another loss coming...maybe two. Just happy to get to a bowl. Hopefully we draw a slow opponent we can handle again this year.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Butch and staff just cannot coach well enough to Win the SEC even without injuries. He will have to recruit all 5 and 4 stars to make up for his coaching deficiency and he cannot do that either.

The Oline will never be good with the scheme and coaching Butch and Staff provide.

Our Defense is very good when healthy.

 

[nash101]

The team read their press clippings in preseason and thought they could cake walk to Atlanta. We have fallen behind double digits in almost every game, and only a couple miracle comebacks have kept us from having a losing season

I think the team lost their confidence in the double overtime loss at A&M. Then when they mailed in the worst loss to Bama in the storied history of that rivalry it proved they are not ready for prime time.

Drastic changes are needed NOW to avoid losing 3 more games this year - Tech is not even a gimme the way we play. The team looked like they quit on the season last night and that is lack of leadership (from coaches, captains and what few senior leaders we have)

 

[agent|orange]

The team read their press clippings in preseason and thought they could cake walk to Atlanta. We have fallen behind double digits in almost every game, and only a couple miracle comebacks have kept us from having a losing season

I think the team lost their confidence in the double overtime loss at A&M. Then when they mailed in the worst loss to Bama in the storied history of that rivalry it proved they are not ready for prime time.

Drastic changes are needed NOW to avoid losing 3 more games this year - Tech is not even a gimme the way we play. The team looked like they quit on the season last night and that is lack of leadership (from coaches, captains and what few senior leaders we have)

Kentucky stands as a legit threat to us. Vandy will be a 6-3 type game if we win. Mizzou is legitimately bad but, then again, so was South Carolina.

Who, again, beat us with Freshmen and Sophomores.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Our coaching staff cannot coach players up and cannot game plan. Reason we are always behind in 1st half.

 

[CFBFanatic]

Don't think I'm making an excuse for the totally inexplicable happenings this season. I'm not. But I just wonder if Alabama had all of the injuries occur in the same places in the offensive and defensive schemes that we have had this year if their record would be any better than ours. I doubt if it would.

If you took three of their all SEC performers out of their lineup at the start of the season and followed that with losing basically your entire offensive and defensive lines the rest of the season, would they be any better than 5-3? How many of our losses have been directly caused by breakdowns of those new players inserted into the lineup? The answer is A&M and South Carolina. Without those next men up, we would be 7-1.

What about Florida or any other SEC team you plug into the scenario? None of them would probably have had any of the miraculous wins we had. Just food for thought!
:zeitung_lesen:

Alabama has won four national championships in the last seven years, and they've had plenty of injuries during that time. They have depth. A LOT of depth. That's how they handle it. They also have excellent coaches, beginning at the top. They may not have that many close games, but when they do, they tend to win them. That's in-game coaching to go with the talent they have. The Vols can still have a very good season, but it's time to stop doing the transitive thing about injuries and what other teams would do with them. Yes, the Vols have been dealt a bad hand on injuries this season. You can't blame that loss to South Carolina on injuries. The Gamecocks are not a very good team.

 

[MWAVolfan]

Don't think I'm making an excuse for the totally inexplicable happenings this season. I'm not. But I just wonder if Alabama had all of the injuries occur in the same places in the offensive and defensive schemes that we have had this year if their record would be any better than ours. I doubt if it would.

If you took three of their all SEC performers out of their lineup at the start of the season and followed that with losing basically your entire offensive and defensive lines the rest of the season, would they be any better than 5-3? How many of our losses have been directly caused by breakdowns of those new players inserted into the lineup? The answer is A&M and South Carolina. Without those next men up, we would be 7-1.

What about Florida or any other SEC team you plug into the scenario? None of them would probably have had any of the miraculous wins we had. Just food for thought!
:zeitung_lesen:

A better question is why doesnt Bama, or any other program have a problem with injuries? Nothing is coincidental and no such thing as bad luck.

 

[Bigun]

Butch and staff just cannot coach well enough to Win the SEC even without injuries. He will have to recruit all 5 and 4 stars to make up for his coaching deficiency and he cannot do that either.

The Oline will never be good with the scheme and coaching Butch and Staff provide.

Our Defense is very good when healthy.

No, no they aren't. Even before the injuries we were struggling on defense. Every single team has pushed us around and every single team has had a 100yd rusher against us.