The Impeachment Thread

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luthervol said:
LOL....True. I was 43 when he was born. Unexpected. My wife always wanted a 3rd and I said sure but it has to be before I'm 40. Well that didn't happened and we thought, why have a vasectomy, it seems redundant.
I learned my lesson and had one after our 3rd.
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Well now, if you didn't spend so much time on VN fretting about orange man, you'd have gotten a proper toe hold on the first attempt and had a boy right away when you were young.
 
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GVF said:
Seems odd for you to say that. While it was happening, you gloated so much on how well it was going for your team.
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Did I? Here's my post history: cite your source.

I've stated all along that I didn't believe Trumps actions warranted removal from office. This, despite believing he is absolutely guilty of the actions of which he's been accused. The house had a remedy to seek the first had witness testimony of Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompeo et al and didn't. They were criticized, and rightly so, for not exercising that avenue to compel the first hand witnesses to testify. I simply find it laughable that the same people who were bitching about not having first hand testimony last week, can get it next week and they're all like "nah, it's cool."
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Schiff’s history is valid.

I disagree with pretty much everything in the second paragraph. I don’t think some is accurate and the rest is justifiable. Can give specifics, later, if necessary.


I don’t remember the democrats telling verifiable lies about what was happening in the depositions, I don’t remember them barging into the deposition room to interrupt, I don’t remember them intentionally breaking rules in the hearings so they could again falsely claim that their members weren’t being allowed to ask questions.

I don’t remember anything comparable to that from the democrats.

The republicans acted like clowns and then complained it was a circus.
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And you apparently don't remember Schiff trying to shut them down, tell them what they can and ask, and telling witnesses what they can and can't answer.
 
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GVF said:
Seems odd for you to say that. While it was happening, you gloated so much on how well it was going for your team.

It's not about fair in Dc. It's about "equality." Block witnesses. Don't call witnesses. If you can do it, we can do it better.
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“There have been 15 impeachments in the history of the country. Two of them were cut short by resignations. In the other 13 impeachments there were witnesses,It’s not unusual to have a witness in a trial. It’s certainly not unusual to have witness in an impeachment trial. The House managers have only asked for three witnesses. I think that’s pretty modest.” - McConnell (R - then)

It's cool though, can't wait to laugh at Trump claiming he's been exonerated by the Senate.
 
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GVF said:
I was 37. On the to do list, but unexpected at the time. Boys should be had in your 20's and early 30's.
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I tell him, better late than never. Luckily I was always active and did a lot of coaching which he loved being around. Also coached a lot of his youth teams and I'm "involved" as part of the staff of his HS fb team.
 
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GVF said:
And you apparently don't remember Schiff trying to shut them down, tell them what they can and ask, and telling witnesses what they can and can't answer.
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He did that one time that I saw that I felt was unjustified. It was very early in he first hearing when he told Kent and Taylor that they didn’t have to assume facts. I thought that was unnecessary but I did not see him do it again unless the whistleblower’s identity was implicated. And he allowed both sides to continue asking questions that assumed facts and made no further interruptions of those questions.

So I don’t think that that is comparable and the republicans knew from the depositions that the whistleblower’s identity would be protected. So more than half of those interruptions were in response to political clowning.
 
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GVF said:
Well now, if you didn't spend so much time on VN fretting about orange man, you'd have gotten a proper toe hold on the first attempt and had a boy right away when you were young.
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I fret about orange man specifically because of them.
Side note: my oldest daughter has a friend that had a lot of them over a couple of weeks ago for a peach 'n mint party. All the food and beverage had a peach and/or mint component. Thought it was brilliant.
 
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LOLOLOLOLOL The impeachment is bipartisan now because there is bipartisan OPPOSITION to it.

You just can't make this up.
 
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luthervol said:
I fret about orange man specifically because of them.
Side note: my oldest daughter has a friend that had a lot of them over a couple of weeks ago for a peach 'n mint party. All the food and beverage had a peach and/or mint component. Thought it was brilliant.
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No. Sad really. But not at all surprising.

I can picture the conversation at your kinds of parties.


lulz
 
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Septic said:
I simply can't fathom how even the mouthiest breathers of the trump army would be duped by this dodge.

Blaming the dems for not calling on first hand witnesses and then straight up ducking calling first hand witnesses while Trump is out there saying they should be called? It's like an Onion article playing out in real time.
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That's because the GOP approach to this has been one failed talking point after another, lather, rinse, repeat. How many times did they go with the International Crime Fighter Theory, then abandon that, then come back to it? Has to be a dozen times. And Trump invoked it yesterday, calling Giuliani the greatest crime fighter of the last 50 years.

The GOP defense of Trump has just been putrid. Inconsistent. Awkward. Easily defeated at every turn. Hypocritical. Contrary to fact.

Choose your own adjective but beware that whatever one you choose to descibe the latest idiotic argument from them they will abandon it. For about 5 days.
 
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Septic said:
“There have been 15 impeachments in the history of the country. Two of them were cut short by resignations. In the other 13 impeachments there were witnesses,It’s not unusual to have a witness in a trial. It’s certainly not unusual to have witness in an impeachment trial. The House managers have only asked for three witnesses. I think that’s pretty modest.” - McConnell (R - then)

It's cool though, can't wait to laugh at Trump claiming he's been exonerated by the Senate.
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I'm sure he will, and you will get to.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's because the GOP approach to this has been one failed talking point after another, lather, rinse, repeat. How many times did they go with the International Crime Fighter Theory, then abandon that, then come back to it? Has to be a dozen times. And Trump invoked it yesterday, calling Giuliani the greatest crime fighter of the last 50 years.

The GOP defense of Trump has just been putrid. Inconsistent. Awkward. Easily defeated at every turn. Hypocritical. Contrary to fact.

Choose your own adjective but beware that whatever one you choose to descibe the latest idiotic argument from them they will abandon it. For about 5 days.
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I would almost attribute a method to them of trying to just create noise so people tune out. But I think it's just flailing by a bunch of idiots that happens to have the effect of creating a bunch of noise.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
No. Sad really. But not at all surprising.

I can picture the conversation at your kinds of parties.


lulz
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Can you? Never talk politics at parties.
I wasn't invited to the one I mentioned, that was my daughter's friend and their circle of Tech nerds. All of whom are doing exceptionally well by the way.
 
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1972 Grad said:
It shows how really sick that some people are when they have a party to support removing a duly elected President from office. Solemnity from the Dems, my ass.
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Shows how out of touch and deluded so many are when they can't even remotely process the perspective of our best and brightest young people.
 
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evillawyer said:
I would almost attribute a method to them of trying to just create noise so people tune out. But I think it's just flailing by a bunch of idiots that happens to have the effect of creating a bunch of noise.
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That is an apt description. Sadly, amongst the Trump base, it is working. Giving them just enough cover to stand by their con man of a President.
 
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1972 Grad said:
It shows how really sick that some people are when they have a party to support removing a duly elected President from office. Solemnity from the Dems, my ass.
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Calling him "duly elected" is irrelevant and an appeal to emotion. The congress people who are about to impeach him are just as "duly elected."
 
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Septic said:
Did I? Here's my post history: cite your source.

I've stated all along that I didn't believe Trumps actions warranted removal from office. This, despite believing he is absolutely guilty of the actions of which he's been accused. The house had a remedy to seek the first had witness testimony of Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompeo et al and didn't. They were criticized, and rightly so, for not exercising that avenue to compel the first hand witnesses to testify. I simply find it laughable that the same people who were bitching about not having first hand testimony last week, can get it next week and they're all like "nah, it's cool."
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Here's a couple you may have forgot about, though you are more middling than some of the Trump haters in here. Not the hatred, just the state of progress in the situation.

It must be tiresome having to come up with new ways to try and discredit credible witness after credible witness. It must be like trying to catch an avalanche in a thimble.
Septic
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Nov 19, 2019
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What? What does that have to do with the price of apples? We were talking about whether the "dems were good at this", they clearly are as evidenced by.... the evidence.
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Nov 8, 2019
Forum: Politics

And to clarify, these reference my comment that I said you felt things were going well for your side. Not that you believed or didn't believe he'd go down. Having said that, I will say up front that if I misread or misinterpreted these posts and they don't mean you thought the inquiry was going well for Dems, then my bad.
 
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luthervol said:
Can you? Never talk politics and parties.
I wasn't invited to the one I mentioned, that was my daughter's friend and their circle of Tech nerds. All of whom are doing exceptionally well by the way.
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I'm glad, because they are going to need good jobs to pay all the taxes need to support me in my old age.
 
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GVF said:
Here's a couple you may have forgot about, though you are more middling than some of the Trump haters in here:

It must be tiresome having to come up with new ways to try and discredit credible witness after credible witness. It must be like trying to catch an avalanche in a thimble.
Septic
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Nov 19, 2019
Forum: Politics

What? What does that have to do with the price of apples? We were talking about whether the "dems were good at this", they clearly are as evidenced by.... the evidence.
Septic
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Nov 8, 2019
Forum: Politics

And to clarify, these reference my comment that I said you felt things were going well for your side. Not that you believed or didn't believe he'd go down. Having said that, I will say up front that if I misread or misinterpreted these posts and they don't mean you thought the inquiry was going well for Dems, then my bad.
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I don't see anything resembling a "gloat", pointing out the reality of the overwhelming evidence is an exercise in reality - not fealty to one side or another.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Just admit it. You are a butthurt liberal who suffers from a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Just own it.
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I have. I think trump is human trash unworthy of the privilege to wiping my clubs at the...club.

I do have TDS, how many times do I need to remind you of that before I have to remind you to take your alzheimers meds again.
 
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