The Impeachment Thread

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MontyPython said:
Must be fun to be a spineless, soul less politician ... Lindsay Graham and Mitch McConnell. Thank god "normal" Americans don't take after our so called "leaders".

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In 1999, Mitch McConnell voted to impeach former President Bill Clinton, saying the President "lied — deliberately and methodically" to the American people.

According to his closed-door impeachment statement, which was released into Congressional record in February 1999, McConnell found Clinton guilty of two articles of impeachment — and said both warrant his removal from office.

"I believe that William Jefferson Clinton has abused and violated that public trust," McConnell said at the time.

He continued:

"His cold, calculated actions betrayed the trust vested in him by the American people and the high office of the presidency. The President of the United States looked 270 million Americans in the eye, and lied--deliberately and methodically. He took an oath to faithfully execute the laws of this nation, and he violated that oath. He pledged to be the nation's chief law enforcement officer, and he violated that pledge. He took an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and he willfully and repeatedly violated that oath."​
McConnell — who today is the Senate Majority Leader — has said there is "no chance" President Trump will be removed from office.

“We all know how it's going to end. There is no chance the President is going to be removed from office," he told Fox News last week.

You can read McConnell's full statement from 1999 here.
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Are you arguing that the Democrats should have voted to impeach and remove President Clinton?
 
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utvols88 said:
Schumer starts out by insulting the Republicans, then acts like the trial needs to be fair with an open mind and he has no idea what the 4 witnesses will say then states that the witnesses will convince the undecided republicans that trump is guilty. lol. Hes such a snake.

I find it pompous to demand anything from republicans given the way the house conducted their inquiry.

Just said again not to prejudge the case. Cant stop lying. My god.
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Is that really any worse than Mitch McConnell announcing on Fox News that he will be "coordinating" with the Trump legal defense team on how to handle the trial. He is supposedly a freaking juror.
 
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utvols88 said:
Do you support Schumers statements?
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Schumer does seem to contradict himself... but that is no worse than a juror in a trial announcing to the public that he not only doesn't intend to be fair, but he will in fact, be working in conjunction with the legal defense team.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Schumer does seem to contradict himself... but that is no worse than a juror in a trial announcing to the public that he not only doesn't intend to be fair, but he will in fact, be working in conjunction with the legal defense team.
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But but but but but but but but. color me unshocked
 
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Velo Vol said:
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The only time Trump's poll numbers have had a dramatic shift in either direction was during the government shutdown a year ago. It lasted from December 22nd until January 25th and Trump's numbers did drop across the board by between 5 and 6 points... but it only took a month for them to rebound. He is very polarizing and he forces you to pick a side. You are either completely with him, or completely against him. I don't think there are very many undecideds; even the independents have made up their minds about him.
 
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golfballs said:
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It also said:

On other issues related to impeachment, voters say:
  • 53 - 44 percent that the president abuses the power of his office;
  • 52 percent that the president was pursuing his own personal interest in his dealings with Ukraine to 40 percent that he was pursuing the national interest;
  • 48 - 40 percent that President Trump held up military aid to Ukraine because he wanted the Ukrainian president to announce investigations that would benefit Trump politically;
  • 48 - 44 percent that the president has committed any crimes while in office.
Nearly two thirds, 64 percent, say it is not acceptable for the President of the United States to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival, while 23 percent say it is acceptable.


Is Quinnipiac a poll we can trust now? Asking for a friend.
 
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Rifleman said:
I'd agree that there has not been any new movement since the numbers reset after the details of the Ukraine aid withholding broke. I think most people decide what they think first, then seek out whatever facts support their view, so any movement is remarkable.

Also, these numbers are not great for Trump. Any backlash is certainly more wishful thinking than reality at this point, and being in a position to try and capitalize on the backlash to your impeachment is never going a position of strength.
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I think specifically in this instance, most people reacted to the 3rd (4th?) attempt at Trump since his election. Without the boys crying wolf the last 3 years, this maybe could have gained traction. But, alas, the left fielders will never know.
 
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Septic said:
It also said:

On other issues related to impeachment, voters say:
  • 53 - 44 percent that the president abuses the power of his office;
  • 52 percent that the president was pursuing his own personal interest in his dealings with Ukraine to 40 percent that he was pursuing the national interest;
  • 48 - 40 percent that President Trump held up military aid to Ukraine because he wanted the Ukrainian president to announce investigations that would benefit Trump politically;
  • 48 - 44 percent that the president has committed any crimes while in office.
Nearly two thirds, 64 percent, say it is not acceptable for the President of the United States to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival, while 23 percent say it is acceptable.


Is Quinnipiac a poll we can trust now? Asking for a friend.
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Most oppose impeachment. Dems tried to make the case for it and support went in the other direction.
 
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